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Ok. I believe you. Been ugly & getting uglier for years now.
The New York Declaration is the result of the work by the United Nations conference on the implementation of the two-state solution, co-chaired by France and Saudi Arabia, which took place from 28 to 30 July. This work will continue in

New York on 22 September in the presence of President Macron.12 сент. 2025 г.

Israel/Palestinian Territories – UN adopts New York Declaration on the two-state ...

Sounds forced to me. MBS is for more powerful than Trump.
 

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The declaration encourages states to recognize Palestine as a sovereign state and invites other countries to join this call. It aims to mobilize international community action on a leaders' level.
The New York Declaration does not state the specific borders for Palestine, but it does reiterate the commitment to the two-state solution where Israel and Palestine would live side-by-side with "secure and recognized borders," consistent with international law and UN resolutions. The declaration emphasizes that Gaza is an integral part of a future Palestinian state and must be unified with the West Bank.

(Unified politically? Or figuratively? Unified in some other manner?)
  • Two-state solution: The declaration strongly supports the two-state solution as the basis for a just and lasting peace.
  • Integrated Gaza and West Bank: It states that Gaza must be unified (?) with the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority (so politically) and must not be subjected to occupation, blockade, or forced displacement.
  • No specific boundaries: While supporting the two-state solution, the declaration does not draw specific lines for Palestine's borders. The specifics of border demarcation have historically been a matter for final status negotiations between the two parties.
 

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The New York Declaration does not state the specific borders for Palestine, but it does reiterate the commitment to the two-state solution where Israel and Palestine would live side-by-side with "secure and recognized borders," consistent with international law and UN resolutions. The declaration emphasizes that Gaza is an integral part of a future Palestinian state and must be unified with the West Bank.

(Unified politically? Or figuratively? Unified in some other manner?)
  • Two-state solution: The declaration strongly supports the two-state solution as the basis for a just and lasting peace.
  • Integrated Gaza and West Bank: It states that Gaza must be unified (?) with the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority (so politically) and must not be subjected to occupation, blockade, or forced displacement.
  • No specific boundaries: While supporting the two-state solution, the declaration does not draw specific lines for Palestine's borders. The specifics of border demarcation have historically been a matter for final status negotiations between the two parties.
It says previous UN intentions if you read close.

"secure and recognized borders," consistent with international law and UN resolutions.
What are they right now? They dont exist?

What part of you stay on your side of the fucking lawn chairs the UN decides to set and Ill stay on mine but in the mean time cross the lawn chairs and you're a legit illegal Invader/terrorist under international law.

Sounds non-negotiable to me. Since Palestine already has Observer Status in the UN at par with the Vatican It and its people could go the Holy Land Route with UNESCO Status before Satan's Chosen People JKK level Bethlehem once and for all. Its going to take a heavy force to stop them and Israeli civil war..

The Vatican is an ity bitty city with far further reach than through the UN.

A Holy Land for the Christians.
 

petros

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Oh....some Biblical shit....

Yes, King Ahaz did sacrifice his son by fire.
The Bible explicitly says so in 2 Kings 16:3 (just three verses before the one we were discussing):
“But he walked in the way of the kings of Israel; indeed he made his son pass through the fire, according to the abominations of the nations whom the LORD had cast out from before the children of Israel.” (NKJV)

The same act is repeated in 2 Chronicles 28:3:
“He burned incense in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, and burned his children in the fire, according to the abominations of the nations whom the LORD had cast out before the children of Israel.”

This was a form of child sacrifice to the pagan god Molech aka Baal aka Satan (or a similar Canaanite deity), a practice strictly forbidden in the Law of Moses (Leviticus 18:21, 20:2–5; Deuteronomy 18:10). Ahaz is portrayed in the Bible as one of the most wicked kings of Judah because of this and other idolatrous act.

The the Baal Sect Jews still exist.

Israel's Credit Rating and Moody's Recent Actions
As of November 24, 2025, Israel's sovereign credit rating remains at Baa1 (with a negative outlook) according to Moody's Investors Service, following a series of downgrades tied to the ongoing conflicts in Gaza and with Hezbollah in Lebanon. This rating places Israel three notches above junk status (non-investment grade, which begins at Ba1/BB+). Moody's has explicitly warned that further escalation could push Israel into junk territory, increasing borrowing costs and potentially forcing institutional investors to offload bonds.

Key Moody's Downgrades for Israel
Moody's has adjusted Israel's rating multiple times in recent years, primarily due to heightened geopolitical risks, elevated defense spending (projected to rise significantly), and slower economic recovery.
 

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It says previous UN intentions if you read close.
It says “previous UN intentions” where (?) and meaning what (?) and this would tie into the specifics of border demarcation have historically been a matter for final status negotiations between the two parties how?

This is somewhere in Post# 6963 that you quote to state this?
 

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It says “previous UN intentions” where (?) and meaning what (?) and this would tie into the specifics of border demarcation have historically been a matter for final status negotiations between the two parties how?

This is somewhere in Post# 6963 that you quote to state this?
Two-State solution: The declaration reiterates support for a sovereign, democratic, and viable State of Palestine living side-by-side with Israel in peace and security, based on international law and relevant UN resolutions.


242 never went away. Its the "basis of illegal occupation" and why its super cool if Palestinians shoot a wandering Jew.
 

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242 never went away. Its the "basis of illegal occupation" and why its super cool if Palestinians shoot a wandering Jew.
Wandering where? Inside the actual defined borders of Israel? Wandering in the disputed areas of what’s now called the West Bank? Why didn’t Oct 7th happen in the “West Bank” and not inside Israel itself?
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Two-State solution: The declaration reiterates support for a sovereign, democratic, and viable State of Palestine living side-by-side with Israel in peace and security, based on international law and relevant UN resolutions.
Meaning what?