Hamas attacks Israel

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The Palestinian militant group (they mean Hamas) appointed Yahya Sinwar to lead its political bureau on Tuesday, replacing Ismail Haniyeh, who was killed in Tehran in an attack Iran blamed on Israel. Israel has neither confirmed nor denied responsibility.

The move consolidates power within the organization under Sinwar, who until this week was the head of Hamas in Gaza.

Sinwar, a hardened militant with many years spent in an Israeli prison, is viewed as less compromising in dealings with Israel and closer to Iran (Hmmm) than his predecessor. He is accused by Israel of being the mastermind of the October 7 attack and believed to be hiding in a tunnel in Gaza.

“ I’m surprised about this move,” said Hatem Mohammed, 47, a Gaza-based retired civil servant for the Palestinian Authority that is run by Fatah, a rival party to Hamas. “It’s a hasty, irrational and reactionary move in response to Haniyeh’s assassination. They (Hamas) know internally that he’s not fit for the job. He’s an emotive and hasty person.”

The situation in Gaza, he told CNN, needs a leader who “knows politics,” like “Haniyeh, (former political leader Khaled) Meshaal or (senior Hamas member) Mousa Abu Marzook.”

“This appointment sends a message that the war will continue.
Israel launched the war in retaliation to Hamas-led militants’ October 7 attack on Israel that killed 1,200 people and more than 250 abducted, according to Israeli authorities.

Despite some Gazans being disgruntled with Hamas’ choice of political leader, there are indications that support for the organization remains significant in the enclave.
 

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The Palestinian militant group (they mean Hamas) appointed Yahya Sinwar to lead its political bureau on Tuesday, replacing Ismail Haniyeh, who was killed in Tehran in an attack Iran blamed on Israel. Israel has neither confirmed nor denied responsibility.

The move consolidates power within the organization under Sinwar, who until this week was the head of Hamas in Gaza.

Sinwar, a hardened militant with many years spent in an Israeli prison, is viewed as less compromising in dealings with Israel and closer to Iran (Hmmm) than his predecessor. He is accused by Israel of being the mastermind of the October 7 attack and believed to be hiding in a tunnel in Gaza.

“ I’m surprised about this move,” said Hatem Mohammed, 47, a Gaza-based retired civil servant for the Palestinian Authority that is run by Fatah, a rival party to Hamas. “It’s a hasty, irrational and reactionary move in response to Haniyeh’s assassination. They (Hamas) know internally that he’s not fit for the job. He’s an emotive and hasty person.”

The situation in Gaza, he told CNN, needs a leader who “knows politics,” like “Haniyeh, (former political leader Khaled) Meshaal or (senior Hamas member) Mousa Abu Marzook.”

“This appointment sends a message that the war will continue.
Israel launched the war in retaliation to Hamas-led militants’ October 7 attack on Israel that killed 1,200 people and more than 250 abducted, according to Israeli authorities.

Despite some Gazans being disgruntled with Hamas’ choice of political leader, there are indications that support for the organization remains significant in the enclave.
If Israel knew about the attack months ahead why wasn't he and other guy taken out 15 months ago?
 

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If Israel knew about the attack months ahead why wasn't he and other guy taken out 15 months ago?
Where in what you quoted does it say Israel knew about the attack months ahead (Oct 7th? The bombing of the Hamas political leader under his bed? Some other attack?), & why didn’t who take out what other guy 15 months ago?

Why haven’t the Israelis claimed responsibility for the bomb under the bed guy, but they had no qualms claiming responsibility for the Hezbollah leader guy literally the day before? I’m curious…

Yahya Sinwar, named leader of Hamas on Tuesday, masterminded the bloodiest attack on Jews in a single day since the Holocaust, having made no secret of his desire to strike hard at Israel, the country that imprisoned him for almost half his adult life. He was one of 1,027 Palestinians (because Palestinians are not Hamas but…) released from Israeli prisons in a swap for a single Israeli soldier held in Gaza in 2011 because Israel doesn’t care about its own citizens, etc…

In December 2022, the militant leader told a rally in Gaza that the Palestinian group Hamas would deploy a "flood" of fighters and rockets against Israel, in a speech to supporters that bore the hallmarks of crowd-pleasing hyperbole.

"We will come to you, God willing, in a roaring flood. We will come to you with endless rockets, we will come to you in a limitless flood of soldiers, we will come to you with millions of our people, like the repeating tide," he said in his address.

Less than a year later, Israel discovered it was no idle threat, when Hamas fighters broke through Gaza's fence on Oct. 7, 2023, staging an assault that killed 1,200 people, took 152 hostage and broke Israel's reputation as an invincible enemy.
 
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Where in what you quoted does it say Israel knew about the attack months ahead (Oct 7th? The bombing of the Hamas political leader under his bed? Some other attack?), & why didn’t who take out what other guy 15 months ago?

Why haven’t the Israelis claimed responsibility for the bomb under the bed guy, but they had no qualms claiming responsibility for the Hezbollah leader guy literally the day before? I’m curious…

Yahya Sinwar, named leader of Hamas on Tuesday, masterminded the bloodiest attack on Jews in a single day since the Holocaust, having made no secret of his desire to strike hard at Israel, the country that imprisoned him for almost half his adult life. He was one of 1,027 Palestinians (because Palestinians are not Hamas but…) released from Israeli prisons in a swap for a single Israeli soldier held in Gaza in 2011 because Israel doesn’t care about its own citizens, etc…

In December 2022, the militant leader told a rally in Gaza that the Palestinian group Hamas would deploy a "flood" of fighters and rockets against Israel, in a speech to supporters that bore the hallmarks of crowd-pleasing hyperbole.

"We will come to you, God willing, in a roaring flood. We will come to you with endless rockets, we will come to you in a limitless flood of soldiers, we will come to you with millions of our people, like the repeating tide," he said in his address.

Less than a year later, Israel discovered it was no idle threat, when Hamas fighters broke through Gaza's fence on Oct. 7, 2023, staging an assault that killed 1,200 people, took 152 hostage and broke Israel's reputation as an invincible enemy.
Israeli officials obtained Hamas's battle plan for the Oct. 7 terrorist attack more than a year before it happened, documents, emails and interviews show. But Israeli military and intelligence officials dismissed the plan as aspirational, considering it too difficult for Hamas to carry out.Dec 2, 2023
https://www.nytimes.com › world
Israel Knew Hamas's Attack Plan More Than a Year Ago - The New York Times


10 months later and the plan was too complex for Israel to handle and Hamas too powerful to handle alone. WTG!
 

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Oh well. I wonder what the sheer volume of potential threats that Israel has to sift through on an annual basis is like? Every wingnut on an apple box on their own tangent yelling “death to Israel, death to America” Cracked out on their own drug of religious fever. I bet it’s absolutely massive.
 

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Oh well. I wonder what the sheer volume of potential threats that Israel has to sift through on an annual basis is like? Every wingnut on an apple box on their own tangent yelling “death to Israel, death to America” Cracked out on their own drug of religious fever. I bet it’s absolutely massive.
It’s an industry.
 
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Oh well. I wonder what the sheer volume of potential threats that Israel has to sift through on an annual basis is like? Every wingnut on an apple box on their own tangent yelling “death to Israel, death to America” Cracked out on their own drug of religious fever. I bet it’s absolutely massive.
Israel has their blood lusting zealots that hate everybody including you and me and every goyim fish in the sea....and they're in power.

Sad but true.
 
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Iran has reportedly "recalibrated its approach" to retaliating against Israel and the U.S. does not expect Tehran to attack imminently. Hezbollah is reportedly looking to execute its reprisal against Israel in the coming days, CNN reported. Israel revoked the diplomatic status of eight Norwegian diplomats who worked at the country's mission to the PA in response to Norway's decision to formally recognize a Palestinian state. The PA's foreign minister called on the ICJ to issue an arrest warrant against Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich for saying that "it may be moral and just" to starve two million Gazans until Hamas releases the remaining Israeli hostages it is holding in the Strip.

Here's what you need to know 307 days into the war


What happened today

A supporter wearing a costume holds a placard with an image of Ariel Bibas, who has been held hostage in Gaza since the deadly October 7 Hamas attack, during a commemoration of his 5th birthday in Tel Aviv on Monday.

■ ISRAEL-LEBANON: Hezbollah looks increasingly like it may strike Israel independent of whatever Iran may intend to do, CNN reported, citing two sources familiar with the intelligence. Hezbollah is moving faster than Iran in its planning and is looking to strike Israel in the coming days, one of the sources said. Iran, multiple officials have told CNN, appears to still be working out how it plans to respond.
The IDF said that Air Force fighter jets attacked Hezbollah infrastructure in southern Lebanon overnight into Thursday. Some 15 rockets were fired from Lebanon at northern Israel, with most falling in open areas.

The Saudi news channel Al Hadath reported that an Israeli strike on a vehicle driving along the road connecting the villages of Yarine and Jibbain in southern Lebanon killed one person and wounded two.

During a readiness assessment of Israel's Home Front Command, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said that "there is a psychological attempt by the enemy to sow fear and instill terror," adding that "we are working to give the public sufficient warning" ahead of a possible attack, "and until then allow them to continue a normal lifestyle."

■ HANIYEH ASSASSINATION: U.S. officials have conveyed to Iran via various intermediaries that, if the blast that killed Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh was indeed caused by a covert Israeli operation and did not kill any Iranian citizens, then the Islamic Republic should reevaluate its plan to launch a military attack on Israel, Politico reported, adding that the officials said "Tehran seems to have recalibrated and the U.S. does not expect an attack on Israel imminently."

The Canadian government announced that it has decided to evacuate the children and guardians of its diplomats in Israel, the Canadian Press reported.

Air France extended its suspension of flights to and from Beirut until August 11.
"Iran is reconsidering its steps, even as the circumstances surrounding the killing of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran last week are gradually emerging. The killing, according to Washington Post analyst David Ignatius, used an explosive device planted in Haniyeh's room at a guest house operated by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards – not by means of a missile fired from long distance. Somehow, according to the unwritten rules of the game in the Middle East, this is probably seen as less of a provocation in the eyes of the regime" – Amos Harel

■ HOSTAGES/CEASE-FIRE: U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan told PBS that President Biden "is determined to hold both sides' feet to the fire to get to a conclusion where we have a cease-fire and a hostage deal" between Israel and Hamas.

■ GAZA: World Central Kitchen said that Nadi Sallout, one of its Palestinian aid workers, was killed in an Israeli airstrike in Gaza. The organization, which lost seven workers in an Israeli air strike in April, said that Sallout was killed on Wednesday night while he was apparently off duty, and added that he was "an integral member of our warehouse team from the early days of our response in Rafah."
The IDF called on residents of areas in southeast Gaza to evacuate to a humanitarian zone.

Gaza rescue services reported that 15 people were killed in strikes on schools in Shujeiyah, which the IDF said were Hamas headquarters. Earlier on Thursday, Palestinian medics reported that Israeli forces had stepped up strikes across the Strip.

According to numbers issued Thursday by the Hamas-controlled Health Ministry in Gaza, at least 39,699 Palestinians were killed and 91,722 wounded since the start of the war.
"It was Yahya Sinwar and not Ismail Haniyeh who had always been the decision-maker, a role he ensured himself from the war he started with Israel and his control over the fate of the hostages. Sinwar was the one who decided to make the major concession in May when Hamas agreed that its demand for a permanent cease-fire and full Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip would only take place after the first, 'humanitarian' phase of the agreement. In doing so, he improved the chances of reaching a deal. His new role as head of the political bureau, thus putting him in charge of Hamas' military and political wings, doesn't change the dynamics of the talks, which now await a move by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu" – Zvi Bar'el

■ ISRAEL: Israel informed Norway that it is revoking the diplomatic status of eight Norwegian diplomats who worked at the country's mission to the Palestinian Authority in response to Norway's decision to formally recognize a Palestinian state. The move will result in the cessation of Norwegian diplomatic operations in both Israel and the West Bank. Norway's foreign ministry called the decision "an extreme act that primarily affects our ability to help the Palestinian population."
In an interview with TIME, PM Netanyahu was asked about his accountability for October 7, given that the heads of Israel's defense establishment have apologized for their role, and said now is not the time to deal with this question. "Apologize? Of course, of course. I am sorry, deeply, that something like this happened," Netanyahu said, adding that "there'll be enough time to deal with it. But I think that dealing with it now is a mistake. We're in the midst of a war, a seven-front war. I think we have to concentrate on one thing: winning," he said.

■ ICJ: The Palestinian Foreign Ministry called on the International Court of Justice at The Hague to issue an arrest warrant against Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich for his comments that "it may be moral and just" to starve two million Gazans until Hamas releases the remaining hostages held in the Strip, but that "no one in the world will allow us to do that."

■ U.K.: Britain saw almost 2,000 antisemitic incidents in the first half of 2024, a record figure for the first six months of any year, a Jewish advisory body said. The Community Security Trust (CST), which advises Britain's estimated 280,000 Jews on security matters, said more than half of the incidents recorded were related to Israel, Gaza, Hamas or the current conflict in the region.

British Foreign Secretary David Lammy joined his French and German counterparts in strongly condemning Finance Minister Smotrich's comments about starving Gazans, writing on X that "there can be no justification for Minister Smotrich's remarks and we expect the wider Israeli government to retract and condemn them."

■ HOUTHIS: The leader of the Iran-backed Houthis, Abdul-Malik al-Houthi, said that there will be a response to the Israeli attack at the port of Hodeidah last month, and that all parties in the Iranian-led axis of resistance made a joint decision to attack Israel. The delay in the response is due to tactical reasons, al-Houthi said.
 

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…and that all parties in the Iranian-led axis of resistance made a joint decision to attack Israel. The delay in the response is due to tactical reasons, al-Houthi said.
Good times, so really nothing has changed.
HANIYEH ASSASSINATION: U.S. officials have conveyed to Iran via various intermediaries that, if the blast that killed Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh was indeed caused by a covert Israeli operation and did not kill any Iranian citizens, then the Islamic Republic should reevaluate its plan to launch a military attack on Israel, Politico reported, adding that the officials said "Tehran seems to have recalibrated and the U.S. does not expect an attack on Israel imminently."
This seems to have worked out well for Iran. One dud out but as a martyr, & Sinwar in with closer ties to Iran. The Hamas billionaire residing in Qatar was potentially relatable to many Palestinians or Hamas (who are separate from each other when convenient) and less reliant on Iran.
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"Iran is reconsidering its steps, even as the circumstances surrounding the killing of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran last week are gradually emerging.
Again. Emerging again…
The killing, according to Washington Post analyst David Ignatius, used an explosive device planted in Haniyeh's room at a guest house operated by Irans Revolutionary Guards– not by means of a missile fired from long distance.
Well, at least one rumour is disposed of. First it was a bomb under the bed, then it was a rocket or missile, & it’s back to a bomb under the bed for consistency.
Iran, multiple officials have told CNN, appears to still be working out how it plans to respond.
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Good times, so really nothing has changed.

This seems to have worked out well for Iran. One dud out but as a martyr, & Sinwar in with closer ties to Iran. The Hamas billionaire residing in Qatar was potentially relatable to many Palestinians or Hamas (who are separate from each other when convenient) and less reliant on Iran.
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Again. Emerging again…

Well, at least one rumour is disposed of. First it was a bomb under the bed, then it was a rocket or missile, & it’s back to a bomb under the bed for consistency.

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