There's nothing wrong with OAS, we all pay for it and we all get it back!
And the wealthy get taxed out of most of it!Half of Canadians Want Refugees Deported
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There's nothing wrong with OAS, we all pay for it and we all get it back!
And the wealthy get taxed out of most of it!
You? YOU are going to pick apart my post? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! ALL ANY OF YOU LIE-BERALS HAVE IS FAKE NEWS!
If you had any other response you would have used it by now!
ALL LIE-beral policy is being SHREDDED before your very eyes!
THE ONLY THING ANY OF YOU LIE-BERALS CAN SAY TO THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME THAT WILL MAKE ANY SENSE IS "I AM SORRY"!
Nonsense. We have hundreds of thousands, millions of people doing low skilled jobs, be it stocking shelves at Wal-Mart, waiting on tables, serving coffee at Tim-Hortons, or cleaning floors. You think everyone graduates high school, let alone goes on to college? Even in the provinces with the lowest dropout rate 13% of people don't graduate. In some provinces that number is over 20%.
Millions do. What do you think all those people you see working at Wal-Mart or Canadian Tire take home anyway? Plus, if it becomes harder to find staff these places have to raise their wages.
Farm labour is different. Most of the jobs are temporary and away from the areas of high population.
Didn't realize a card carrying member of the Reform Party and someone that considers Ralph Klein as too liberal could be considered liberal but who knew
Give it a rest. Have you EVER posted a source that can be checked??? Now we begin to wonder just where you do get such trash.
My point was exactly that. If we import refugees at least we get the taxes back. Even the refugees could not live in their own land on what we pay migrants. Besides they are mostly better educated than ours in lower paying jobs, it may take awhile but in the end the refugees are able to fill the higher end jobs. For the most part, the lower end jobs in Canada are such because those jobs are shorter hours, part time, and fillers on shifts.
Immigrants get fewer jobs, earn less - Business - CBC News
More than 40 per cent of those who come to Canada today have a bachelor's degree or better. That's risen from under 14 per cent in 1981, and it compares to 17 per cent among the Canadian-born population today.
Daughter had an Haitian nurse in the orthopedic ward when she had a knee operation. So yes who knew. Try to understand that Canada's stance is,regular refugees are to use the rules for regular admittance to our country but we have CHOSEN to accept those in dire straits until a solution is found. Those who misuse the system are rejected and sent back, So what is your problem with that?
So this Haitian nurse walked across the border and instantly obtained a job in the orthopedic ward ?
pgs made a blanket statement and I replied in the same manner. You implied all Haitians were uneducated, and I pointed the assumption was wrong. Now you are implying that all educated Haitiansl walked across the border illegally.
So, now I wonder about the status of Canadian education, judging how some use their reasoning power.
Simply not true. Every citizen in this country either contributes more than he gets back from the government, or the same, or less. The great majority contribute less, often much less. The lowest 30% of income earners pay zero income taxes. They still consume government services, however. They still get health care, education and all the rest. But they pay nothing. Those of us who DO pay income tax have to pay more to provide for them.
Refugees usually fall into this category. They don't earn enough to pay income taxes. Why would you suspect they would? Think of a high school dropout here. How well is he likely to do? Now add in that he speaks no English and has no family connections to help out. Refugees are much like that. Plus they don't understand the culture, don't speak the language, have no job skills applicable to our higher level jobs, and little in the way of education.
The focus on education (which does not apply to refugees) was an attempt to reverse the deteriorating economic success of immigrants the government had noted. It was well-meaning but ultimately did not work. If you have a university degree the job you're normally going for is of a higher caliber which requires top-notch communications skills. You're expected to be able to speak fluently on technical issues, as well as read, understand and write in a sophisticated manner.
Taxi driver English will NOT cut it. Nobody is going to hire you for a higher level position when they can barely understand you and when you can barely understand written English, let alone write in it. So these degree holders come here and work as taxi drivers or Wal-mart employees for years while trying to build up their language skills. And by the time their English is improved enough they have no recent employment experience that isn't menial. Good luck with that.
And over the past five years a new problem has arisen. It is childs play to obtain a false degree in much of the third world by paying a few dollars, either to a fake university, or to someone in the registrar's office of a real one. Corruption is endemic in much of the third world, especially the countries where most of our immigrants come from (Pakistan, India, China). People I know who hire are constantly talking about immigrants applying for jobs with degrees and lots of cited experience in their homelands who, on questioning, don't know the first damn thing about the profession they're said to be in.
We would be much better off bringing in carpenters, electricians, bricklayers, welders and the like. They don't need superior English and can almost always find work.
According to Immigration Canada, Haitians are among the least economically successful immigrants to Canada, overall.
I have always been talking of the Haitian refugees from America illegally crossing our border in this particular thread .
So much for edumacation .
So ,,,,should we only accept the richest and best refugees??? Or none at all? Are you distressed at what you receive back on your taxes or do you simply want to cut off the lower 30%who pay no taxes at all. I feel Canada as a general rule is fair handed and yes sometime perhaps a bit more humanly generous than other countries. I do prefer that than leaving people in dire straits to their fate.
I am not a religious person but the golden rule works for me.
Because it's a passing fad? Because "holes" are being found in what people used to believe?
Eggs Zachary!
Thank you for that! Yes- and most farm labourers live in dormitories during those short lived jobs! And they endure heat that does not exists in in an average air conditioned supermarket either!
LIE-berals are TRULY CLUELESS about how ordinary Cdns live! And the current crop of LIE-berals are the MOST CLUELESS YET!
Consider: Here is a question with a shocking answer-along with some comments of my own in brackets):
Can the Liberals return to fiscal conservatism? By Anthony Furey, Postmedia Network.
First posted: Monday, January 09, 2017 05:58 PM EST | Updated: Monday, January 09, 2017 06:05 PM EST
There was a time when the federal Liberals proudly considered fiscal conservatism a part of their identity. If you asked a senior Liberal what it was his or her party stood for, the refrain was most often “fiscally conservative, socially liberal”.
That was then. This is now. Justin Trudeau’s team aren’t your parents’ Liberals.
But is there any hope they’ll return to their previously more balanced perspective?
These worlds collided the other day when one former Liberal finance minister spoke out on Canada’s increasing debt burden, giving advice to the current Liberal finance minister.
“In many ways, it’s the main job of the finance minister to say ‘no,’ and if you don’t have a clear fiscal framework that everyone has made a political commitment to achieving, it makes the job of the finance minister very, very difficult,” John Manley told the Globe & Mail last week. “If you have no framework, then everybody’s got a good case for spending.”
(OF course our LIE-berals HAVE a fiscal framework- to BUY as many votes as they need, at any price necessary so they can cling to power! Of course Our idiot Boy Justin has an additional fiscal framework he inherited from his vile father Pierre- to DESTROY what Our Pet called “Cdn Imperialism”! The vile Pierre Trudope wished to take “Canada from the past into the future via the route of radical socialism- as Our Pet told Telegram reporter Lubor Zink. Its why Our Pet praised the “genius of Chairman Mao for murdering 30 million Chinese in the Great Leap Forward. Its why Our idiot Boy Justin publicly “admires the Chinese Communist Party for the way they get things done” Its why Sacha Trudope has stated that Cuban dictator Castro is the greatest leader in South America- much superior to any merely elected leader! The Trudopes are all dangerous demagogues with a hostility to democracy based on the bigotry of father Pierre as Max Nemni- the chosen biographer and close friend of Our Pet has documented!)
Manley made the comments in response to the shocking news discovered in a buried finance department report that Canada is on track to hit $1 trillion in debt by 2031 and may not return to surplus until 2055.
He was a cabinet minister for a decade during the Jean Chretien years, culminating in assignments as finance minister and deputy prime minister.
(OH thats NICE-even a former LIE-beral finance minister is getting worried by the huge deficits Our idiot Boy prime minister is running!)
Manley is now CEO of the Business Council of Canada. His words remind us of just how different the previous incarnation of the Liberal party was from today’s.
It’s hard to imagine a current Liberal minister describing one of the Liberals’ defining principles as fiscal conservatism.
Trudeau certainly doesn’t use that language. He actually bragged during the last election that his was the most progressive platform on offer.
(Our idiot Boy is also running the most costly govt in Cdn peace time history, with his father Pierre coming a close second in the “ why not waste it-because its only money sweepstakes”!
If by progressive he meant he was the leader pledging to chalk up the most amount of debt, no one would argue with him. Least of all that finance report showing just how catastrophic Trudeau’s policies will be if they continue for years to come.
(I guess we all ought to learn to speak Greek because we can look forward to living like them- bankrupt and un-employed!)
Whether or not the government decides to get its fiscal house back in order hinges on whether Liberals will once again embrace the merits of fiscal conservatism.
A lot of that has to do with who holds the most sway with the PM.
(Sadly, we have enough information to say that Our idiot Boy is a hard line socialist just like his odious father and such Hogs are not swayed by logic. Our Boy wants to build both our economy and a new world order “with heart”. By which he means putting socialist/communist values and social engineering ahead of reason, logic and proven economic principles-just like Soviet Union and his beloved Cuban dictatorship-we all heard Our stupid Boy praising Castro as a great man and father Pierre Trudope heaped praise on Chinese Chairman Mao for “rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows” in his book Two Innocents in Red China.)
It’s hard to believe the current finance minister, Bill Morneau, would have made the same budgetary choices had he been left alone to devise the budget himself.
Now this would never happen. No prime minister would leave the entire budget up to the finance minister. But it’s a useful thought exercise.
After all, that shocking finance report arrived at its numbers by looking at Canada’s aging population and the impacts it will have on revenues and social service spending.
This subject is Morneau’s professional focus. He had senior roles at Morneau Sheppell, a leading benefits and retirement consulting firm founded by his father, for 20 years.
(IN other words, Morneau KNOWS the fiscal shit storm heading our way because he studied it for 20 years in private life!)
There’s no way he can look at a report like this and not know it spells trouble and the need to chart a clear path out of it.
But is Morneau in a position where he can make these decisions? Will the buck even stop with Trudeau, or will his key advisor, the unelected Gerald Butts, prove to be the architect of our financial demise?
(No doubt he will later state “I was just following orders’ as if he were a Nazi defending himself at Nuremburg! But can Morneau really pass off responsibility for being a fiscal numbskull by blaming Trudope for making him present such a budge deficit?)
The Hill Times has reported the Liberal caucus refers to him as “PM Butts”. Kevin O’Leary has even singled him out as a “vampire” sucking the blood out of our economy.
Going forward, Trudeau needs to give Morneau the widest leash possible. And he needs to hand the spotlight over to the fiscal conservatives around him.
The financial sustainability of our nation relies on it.
You seem to be getting confused about the difference between refugees and immigrants, and keep veering back and forth between them. When I reply you get confused again. We should only accept the richest and best IMMIGRANTS. As for refugees, we should accept very, very few, and instead offer up money to neighboring countries which house refugee camps to help sustain them there until they can return home.
What I receive back on my taxes? I'm saying that it does us no economic good to bring in hundreds of thousands of people who will be non-contributors.
I believe in a progressive tax system. At the same time its troubling that so many Canadians don't have any skin in the game. When 50% of the population is collectively responsible for paying 3% of income tax, yet have the same rights and privileges as the 50% who have to be responsible for 97% of income taxes you are open to the problem that the first group will keep voting in politicians who want to spend, spend, spend, because they're not the ones paying the bills. I'm not sure how to address this but I feel it's not healthy in a democracy.
Someone get Cannuck some crayons and a colouring book.