Gun Toting Americans Shooting Themselves Up Again

karrie

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The violent rhetoric only comes from the Right? The Left are the ultimate Hypocrites and Opportunists..

I for one never said it only comes from the right. I think they all ought to be held to account for what they spew. But then again, I don't have 'a side' when it comes to US politics.
 

DaSleeper

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I am absolutely amazed at the amount of rabid hate that Palin seems to be able to generate from the left..

I was just thinking..:smile:

YukonJack must be having a coronary......
 

Colpy

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Just a minute!

Great commentary about Arizona murders - Ezra Levant

The FIRST time I have ever listened to a commentary by Bill O'Reilly........is THIS the guy that every lefty here so loathes, that is accused of destroying the very fabric of American society???????

Good Lord! The man is positively benevolent, even praising Obama!!!!! The only thing I didn't like was his constant reference to the "far-left".....but I guess turnabout is fair play.

And his comments are dead on.

The lefties really can't stand it when someone disagrees with them, can they?
 

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I for one never said it only comes from the right. I think they all ought to be held to account for what they spew. But then again, I don't have 'a side' when it comes to US politics.

And I don't have a side when it comes to Canadian politics. :lol: It's like choosing between a weasel and a crocodile.
 

ironsides

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What is it with the bottom feeding LEFT wing radical sludge? They take a tragedy like what happened and try to make it fit into one of their many political agendas. This crime had nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans, it was a random crime committed by mentally deficient person. Nothing more. Anybody who thinks it was something other than that is just as sick.

Yup...but Sarah is responsible for Sarah.

It is also clear where you belong also. I would like you to show us all where Sarah spoke about killing and or revolting. Stop already with these unsupported comments.
 

JBeee

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A gun culture gone mad.

Rather than admit this fact, Americans and thier media are taking advantage of this latest mass killing (because a politician fell victim) and playing the blame game to further political gains.

The rest of the civilized world must wonder what makes them (Americans) tick.
 

ironsides

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This is not the crisis to sling stones around. Like debating a traffic accident that no one saw. (on our part)

A gun culture gone mad.

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The rest of the civilized world must wonder what makes them (Americans) tick.

And Europe (France) would like the U.S. to help them with their debt. You answered that upcoming question.
 

Colpy

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A gun culture gone mad.

Rather than admit this fact, Americans and thier media are taking advantage of this latest mass killing (because a politician fell victim) and playing the blame game to further political gains.

The rest of the civilized world must wonder what makes them (Americans) tick.

Actually, I agree with the second part of your post.......as for the "gun culture gone mad", that is simply the BS we've come to accept as your standard.

Look at comparative murder statistics.

Where is the USA??????

In the middle.
 

JBeee

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Wolf Blitzer just now mentioned something regarding members of congress or state leaders `risking` thier careers by considering bringing up the gun control topic in the house.


This is not the crisis to sling stones around. Like debating a traffic accident that no one saw. (on our part)



And Europe (France) would like the U.S. to help them with their debt. You answered that upcoming question.

So that fact makes this latest slaughter acceptable?


Actually, I agree with the second part of your post.......as for the "gun culture gone mad", that is simply the BS we've come to accept as your standard.

Look at comparative murder statistics.

Where is the USA??????

In the middle.
 

ironsides

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Wolf Blitzer just now mentioned something regarding members of congress or state leaders `risking` thier careers by considering bringing up the gun control topic in the house.




So that fact makes this latest slaughter acceptable?

Your the one accusing everyone and everything in sight, you would be great in a panic situation. As for what Wolf Blitzer said, I expect nothing less.
 

Unforgiven

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I am absolutely amazed at the amount of rabid hate that Palin seems to be able to generate from the left..

I was just thinking..:smile:

YukonJack must be having a coronary......

On par with Sharpton or Jackson. Hell Bells Hillary can rattle to bottom of the right wing can with just a look.

It's amazing just how hypocritical the right can get. Especially the gun toting paranoid sorts... :lol:

Yeah Yukon Jack, that is pretty funny.
 

JBeee

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What I`m saying is your gov and the American mind-set as a whole, is responsible for this and previous mass shootings by not having the balls to address the real issues.

When one can purchase a concealed weapon (9mm glock?) without a back-ground check ie no questions asked, and these types of incidents take place as often as they do...and no action or concern is shown, then you dam well are asking for trouble.

Wolf also mentioned something about law makers considering not allowing 33 round magazines and instead, 10 round magazines.

Is this the best your gov can do to assure its population the next mass shooting that occurs won`t have the same detrimental effect as the last?


Your the one accusing everyone and everything in sight, you would be great in a panic situation. As for what Wolf Blitzer said, I expect nothing less.
 

DaSleeper

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On par with Sharpton or Jackson. Hell Bells Hillary can rattle to bottom of the right wing can with just a look.

Hillary is all-right....But I wouldn't trust Sharpton or Jackson to sell me a used car...;-)


It's amazing just how hypocritical the right can get. Especially the gun toting paranoid sorts... :lol:
Hey I resent that...I'm a proud gun owner and shooter....:smile:

Yeah Yukon Jack, that is pretty funny.

I thought some might like that....and since he ain't here to join the fray I just thought I'd give a little shot for when he comes back...just hope he takes it in the spirit it was meant
 

ironsides

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What I`m saying is your gov and the American mind-set as a whole, is responsible for this and previous mass shootings by not having the balls to address the real issues.

When one can purchase a concealed weapon (9mm glock?) without a back-ground check ie no questions asked, and these types of incidents take place as often as they do...and no action or concern is shown, then you dam well are asking for trouble.

Wolf also mentioned something about law makers considering not allowing 33 round magazines and instead, 10 round magazines.

Is this the best your gov can do to assure its population the next mass shooting that occurs won`t have the same detrimental effect as the last?

First of all who said you can purchase a handgun without a back ground check. Should know your facts before opening mouth, newspapers are not always right. Wolf can say what he wants, he and CNN has never been accurate before.


ARIZONA CONCEALED CARRY WEAPONS PERMIT
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]E. The department of public safety shall issue a permit to an applicant who meets all of the following conditions:[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1. Is a resident of this state or a United States citizen.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2. Is twenty-one years of age or older.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3. Is not under indictment for and has not been convicted in any jurisdiction of a felony unless that conviction has been expunged, set aside or vacated or the applicant's rights have been restored and the applicant is currently not a prohibited possessor under state or federal law.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4. Does not suffer from mental illness and has not been adjudicated mentally incompetent or committed to a mental institution.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]5. Is not unlawfully present in the United States.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]6. Has ever satisfactorily completed a firearms safety training program authorized by the department of public safety pursuant to subsection N, paragraph 1 of this section or has ever demonstrated competence with a firearm as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 of this section and provides adequate documentation that the person has satisfactorily completed a training program or demonstrated competence with a firearm in any state or political subdivision in the United States. For the purposes of this paragraph, "adequate documentation" means:[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](a) A certificate, card or document of completion from a firearms safety training program authorized pursuant to subsection N, paragraph 1 of this section, dated not more than five years earlier than the date of application, that has affixed to it the stamp, signature or seal of the instructor or organization that conducted the program, or a current or expired permit issued by the department of public safety pursuant to this section.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](b) An original or copy of a certificate, card or document that shows the applicant has completed any course or class prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 or 9 of this section or an affidavit from the instructor, school, club or organization that conducted or taught the course or class attesting to the applicant's completion of the course or class.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](c) An original or a copy of a United States department of defense form 214 (dd-214) indicating an honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions, a certificate of completion of basic training or any other document demonstrating proof of the applicant's current or former service in the United States armed forces as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 6 of this section.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](d) An original or a copy of a concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or a license as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 7 OF THIS SECTION.[/FONT]

Arizona Concealed Carry Weapons Permit Requirements
 

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Since WHEN do the crosshairs of a rifle extend outside the field of view??

They don't. They don't have to. You do understand the meaning of the word "represent" don't you?

Man, I gotta say it, you guys have been unwavering in your unsavoury, disgusting attempt to smear Republicans in general, and Sarah Palin in particular over this tragedy, and you have lost this entire argument on every level imaginable.

If you took your right-wing nutter glasses off for two seconds you would see that I'm not smearing Palin over this tragedy. I'm smearing her because she degrades political debate. It's a common trait you right-wing nutters share with the left-wing nutters. As soon as folks like you and Hedy Fry **** off and leave the intelligent discussion to the rest of us, we may actually get alot accomplished.
 

JBeee

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1. Is a resident of this state or a United States citizen.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2. Is twenty-one years of age or older.[/FONT]
3. Or any of the above.

You people are the cause of you`re concerns.
 

DaSleeper

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They don't. They don't have to. You do understand the meaning of the word "represent" don't you?



If you took your right-wing nutter glasses off for two seconds you would see that I'm not smearing Palin over this tragedy. I'm smearing her because she degrades political debate. It's a common trait you right-wing nutters share with the left-wing nutters. As soon as folks like you and Hedy Fry **** off and leave the intelligent discussion to the rest of us, we may actually get alot accomplished.

You realise that you're coming across with your patronizing and lecturing attitude like a bleepin' condescending progressive, with apologies to the reasonable liberals out there
 

Colpy

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They don't. They don't have to. You do understand the meaning of the word "represent" don't you?



If you took your right-wing nutter glasses off for two seconds you would see that I'm not smearing Palin over this tragedy. I'm smearing her because she degrades political debate. It's a common trait you right-wing nutters share with the left-wing nutters. As soon as folks like you and Hedy Fry **** off and leave the intelligent discussion to the rest of us, we may actually get alot accomplished.

First of all, I'm not even close to a "right-wing nutter", especially if held up against the American political spectrum.

Secondly, idiots slamming out derogatory labels like "far-left" or "Extreme right" or "Communist" or "Fascist" or "right-wing nutter" are a BIG part of the ****ing problem.

Thirdly, I DO understand the meaning of the word "represent", I sure as hell don't need an English lesson from you!

Fourthly, what the symbol "represents" is the fact that the riding has been marked as one ripe for political take over, targeted, if you would....you know, something like this.....

Tories target urban ridings

Jack Layton targets Tory ridings in pre-election tour - The Globe and Mail

And it doesn't matter how much you idiots twist and turn, it is STILL a surveyors' mark on Palin's ad. If she'd used a pointed finger, some idiot would clain it represented a gun, if she used an arrow, they'd claim she was encouraging bow assasinations. This bit is only SLIGHTLY less ridiculous...

And Fifth, and to the most important point I have been TRYING to make, is the problem with American politics is the rapidly increasing gap between left and right, a polarization that is extremely unhealthy for the nation.

guess what?

You AREN'T helping.

GEEZUS!!!!!!