Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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a 30% Change in 1.2 apples per 100,000 apples is still 2 apples. I am so glad you are unable to control your prejudices when the count changes to people. It puts your 'if it saves 1 life' rant into question. Which life did it save?
Progs always do that with numbers to make them look better or worse depending on their agenda
They do the same with graphs.
https://venngage.com/blog/misleading-graphs/
They do the same with graphs.
https://venngage.com/blog/misleading-graphs/
It's like the way they are lying about Alex Jones calling for "battle rifles" against the "media"and then....No quotes...Just punishment.
( ...and just like the trump russian collusion coup they just screwed up on totally, because it's been the DEMOCRATS colluding the whole time)
How soviet can you get?
All because they want YOUR GUNS and YOUR free speech, and ( as just seen in collapsing Turkey, your GOLD too!)..WTF else will the communist nazi globalists, who no one can stand to listen to anymore, take after that?
Your land...your lives...your children...your organs...
( ...and just like the trump russian collusion coup they just screwed up on totally, because it's been the DEMOCRATS colluding the whole time)
How soviet can you get?
All because they want YOUR GUNS and YOUR free speech, and ( as just seen in collapsing Turkey, your GOLD too!)..WTF else will the communist nazi globalists, who no one can stand to listen to anymore, take after that?
Your land...your lives...your children...your organs...
Yes sure, so ban him ( I doubt you know much about jones ), then you.
Say, how about CNN that lied us all into the Iraq war - remember that babies on the floor BULLSHIT from the zionist ( I'm being polite here) propaganda company in new york?
...that wasn't too extreme was it?
Nor were the 500,000 dead children Madeline Albright the SofS claimed was worth it.
A bit Jealous I see. ( what NO FRICKEN QUOTES either?)
He is one hell of a lot smarter, more effective, and successful at what he does then you ( and I ) are or will ever be.
The censoring will be coming your way very very soon, count on it...then goodbye to YOUR guns.
He was one of the main bastions against gun control in the public sphere ( this forum is not really in the public sphere much at all) and with him gone ( though his viewer ship is sky rocketing in other ways), and without him, YOUR guns don't stand a chance in the long run.
It is fun (saddly) to watch you play the deepstate propaganda up while THEY come for YOUR guns though.
Here is an Intelligent SANE opinion you should consider.
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Jordan Peterson Reacts to ALEX JONES Being DEPLATFORMED
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HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOID SAID SOMETHING CLEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MATH IS DEFINITELY HARD FOR LIE-BERALS TRYING TO GET 2 + 2 ADD UP TO 5.7 SO YOU CAN TRICK PEOPLE LIKE A CON ARTIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SADLY GETTING REAL NUMBERS ON CRIME IS NOW ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE SINCE LIE-BERAL CRIME NUMBERS ARE NOW SO UNRELIABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CONSIDER THE REASON WHY HERE:
I put this post up a while back but its worth repeating because it PROVES that Lie-beral philosophy and policy have completely lost touch with reason, reality and logic- which is why LIE-berals CLAIM crime numbers are down!
So, lets talk about Crime and Bullshit! Figures don’t lie but liars figure. Crime statistics are down in this country because crime is evolving and it simply LOOKS like crime is reduced. During his last term in office prime minister Pierre Trudeau and his LIE-beral hug a thug friends CHANGED how crime statistics were compiled-at the time Conservatives complained that the change would make it harder to compare crime statistics from different decades-an obvious point now proven.
LIe-berals will deny this in every way. They will INSIST that “no fundamental changes have been made to the system” and of course we recognize the weasel words “no fundamental changes”.....meaning THEY don’t think its important but anybody who has been robbed or victimized in some way and then watched as LIE-beral appointed `hug a thug` judges give out minor slaps on the criminal wrist DOES think it’s a BIG DEAL!
If you argue these points, LIE-berals will send you links to out of date and irrelevant Stats/Canada publications to `prove` their point using papers and publications that don’t address the issues. They will also try to distract by discussing the Young Offenders Act rather than looking at the issues involving adult career criminals which is what I am trying to illustrate here. LIE-berals have already made it virtually impossible to learn anything useful about Youth crime and now they are doing the same “hide it all for the good of the party” job with adult crime numbers. In short, they will prove once again why we call them LIE-berals!
Under the old system there was one crime if you `possessed` burglar tools and planned to break into a home while the family was away some place, A second crime if you actually broke into the house, A third crime (theft over $5000.00) occurred when you found the keys to a vehicle in the garage and decided to load it up with the stuff you stole from the house and use it as a getaway vehicle. A fourth crime occurred when you found a gun cabinet and broke it open and took possession of and loaded a shotgun for which you have no license. The family comes home unexpectedly and you take them hostage using your stolen shotgun and that’s the fifth and six crimes-kidnaping and misuse of a firearm. A neighbour sees you waving the gun and phones the cops who arrive on the scene and you fire the shotgun out a window a couple of times to keep them back while you consider your options and thus produce crime seven ( assault with a deadly weapon) and crime eight which is resisting arrest. Prior to Trudeau each of these crimes would be listed separately and would be relatively easy to track in appropriate categories-firearm offenses, burglary, theft etc. But now these eight crimes are lumped together as ONE CRIME SCENE and its now MUCH HARDER to track individual crimes since they are no longer listed in such an easy to access and read fashion.
Further, as of 20 years ago about 80% of criminals had their cases `plea bargained` and now we can only guess (since Lie-berals don’t like to talk about this stuff and hide the details where possible and they certainly don’t want to admit that they are practicing `catch and release` with dangerous criminals) that today virtually ALL criminals cut endless deals during which major crimes become minor crimes and minor crimes become small misdemeanors or are easily forgotten entirely....except by the victims. Why bother trying the guy for possession of stolen property when you already have him for stabbing somebody? Crimes are `lost`, forgotten, dismissed, not needed, just plain GONE so the statistics are now useless for getting a real view of crime in Canada.
Further, the evolution of technology is encouraging crime itself to evolve. Why bother getting a gun and a stolen getaway car and robbing a store when you can get a bunch of forged credit cards from your neighbours in organized crime and go on a spending spree with no consequences to speak of? Why bother getting out of your comfortable arm chair and going out into the dark and cold to vandalize the house of a neighbour you don’t like when its so much easier just to lounge in your pajamas in front of a computer screen and send the jerk a virus? And maybe hack his credit cards and online banking information as well? As we know, cops don’t even bother looking for those who spread viruses and hackers are mostly ignored as well....UNLESS there is a really HUGE internet disruption.
The computer is good for all sorts of things like selling stuff online that you have stolen or forged-no need to show yourself and your ID to a pawn shop owner or to a `fence` who may turn fink on you if the cops get to him. Much better to meet the suckers at a coffee shop or at a friends place and later (if there is any trouble) the friend covers for you and denies any involvement since the sucker never saw the friend when the purchase was made and the person who sold the fraud item doesn’t live at the address where it was sold-it’s a double blind cutout.
There is also the political action of thugs and gang members. Thugs have figured out that there is safety in numbers-each gang banger and his girlfriend and mother providing an alibi for the others which makes conviction much harder due to less evidence and the few potential witnesses available to speak having been intimidated by strangers-read other gang members.
Even worse- parents and elder care givers are often dependent on the “income” the gang kid supplies- either from criminal activities or from welfare payments. If one or two family members go to jail it may result in the elders getting evicted to smaller or cheaper quarters- MTHC frowns on one old person living in a 3 bedroom affordable apartment that they cannot pay for- even if the other gangsters will be coming home eventually! So elders are put in an awkward position of feeling compelled to LIE to authorities about criminal activities in exchange for fiscal support!
The thugs also are putting pressure on loonie leftist Lie-beral politicians to rein in `racist` cops and end their alleged brutality. A while back the Lie-beral loving Toronto (Red) Star did an article on how much crime has dropped in 2014 and how quiet it has become in Youth Court rooms across Toronto......the article being presented as if meant cops had somehow decided to stop picking on poor innocent kids.......buried in the article was an admission that in response to `public`(read Black Lives Matter) pressure, cops had drastically cut back on their use of `carding`....that is....stopping and questioning known gang members and their friends who were trespassing and such.....No Contact EQUALS No Problem! No more guns and knives being confiscated, no more stashes of drugs found, no more stolen property found in cars, no more ability to track gang members as they move about the city conducting their `business`! Get the cops to stop looking for crime and the crime `statistics` start to look pretty good!
If you start talking tough on crime then certain ethnic voters scream `white racist` at you....while ignoring the Russian mobster in King City with the fine mansion and the high end BMW with all the frills....and the stash of 800 forged credit cards and the computer with enough stolen personal information to make 4000 MORE cards....which he is selling to gang members and the dork is out on parole for PREVIOUS credit card fraud. And NOBODY is counting the bribery, intimidation and outright extortion needed to get such personal information!
Or the Portuguese guy who was late for his court date to deal with his TENTH arrest for causing an auto smash up while driving drunk-this count does NOT include the MANY other times he was arrested before he hit anything.
Or the guy who extorted 30 MILLION DOLLARS here in Ontari-owe a year back and the McWynnty government cut him a deal: he KEEPS ALL the money and promises to leave Ontari-owe forever and the charge will be dropped....Ontari-owe is so BROKE they don’t have the court and legal resources to deal with such a clever swindler within a sensible time frame!
Or perhaps we should speak of the SEVEN accused murderers recently released from jail this spring of 2017 WITHOUT the bother of a trial! Yes- LIE-berals do not even have the money available to properly prosecute FIRST DEGREE murderers here in Ontari-owe and must release them or see their “rights” violated by not getting a trial in a fair and reasonable time! But LIE-berals DO have LOTS of money ofr teachers- plenty of cash to pay for millions of dollars worth of beer and pizza and comfy hotel rooms for teacher union reps while LIE-berals PRETEND to bargain hard in contract “talks” with their teacher allies! And we all know that a LIE-beral could not get elected to pick up dog crap in the park without the PURCHASED support of civil service union Hogs!
Only a Lie-beral would consider any of this a victory!
It certainly appears math is hard.........for you.
30% of 1.68 persons is .5 persons.
That means you want to destroy an ancient right on the slim possibility it might save one person every two years in a city of 100,000 people.
That is idiotic.
And that kind of stupidity is what makes "progressives" so dangerous to liberty.
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Let us examine the numbers 1.2 and 1.68
1.2 = 0.4 + 0.4 + 0.4
In order to become 1.68 you must add 0.48 to 1.2
This is to say you must increase 1.2 by more than 33.33 %
and btw
this is the "discussion" resulting from my saying that knife crime in the UK is actually roughly on par with knife crime in Canada and Australia.
Where Canada differs is we have more gun crime and that crime is becoming more Americanized every passing day.
1.2 = 0.4 + 0.4 + 0.4
In order to become 1.68 you must add 0.48 to 1.2
This is to say you must increase 1.2 by more than 33.33 %
and btw
this is the "discussion" resulting from my saying that knife crime in the UK is actually roughly on par with knife crime in Canada and Australia.
Where Canada differs is we have more gun crime and that crime is becoming more Americanized every passing day.
Are we , or are we not prosecuting ethnic gang bangers to the fullest extent of the law ?
no one has ever shown correlations between canadain crime and canadian laws so a comparison with uk is unscientific and worthless.
there is no point in comparing the maple syrup consumption vs t2 diabeties ratios between canada and the UK until you can first establish a correlation between the maple syrup consumption in canada and t2 diabeties in Canada. Otherwise you could be passing a bunch of feel good legislation about maple syrup when in fact refined flour is the real problem. And, frankly, hoid, nobody wants to waste time on this matter so grow a fuccking bra8n.
there is no point in comparing the maple syrup consumption vs t2 diabeties ratios between canada and the UK until you can first establish a correlation between the maple syrup consumption in canada and t2 diabeties in Canada. Otherwise you could be passing a bunch of feel good legislation about maple syrup when in fact refined flour is the real problem. And, frankly, hoid, nobody wants to waste time on this matter so grow a fuccking bra8n.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE NEVER PROSECUTE ANYBODY TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW AND LIE-BERALS KNOW THIS AND ROUTINELY HIDE THE FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OVER 80 PERCENT OF ALL CRIMINAL CASES ARE PLEA BARGAINED - MEANING MAJOR CRIMES BECOME MINOR AND MINOR CRIME IS FORGOTTEN ENTIRELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WITH CRIMES LIKE CARRYING A CONCEALED WEAPON- KNIFE OR PISTOL- BEING MOST FREQUENTLY FORGOTTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND IT IS ILLEGAL TO HAVE AN UNLOCKED PISTOL OUT IN THE OPEN IN PUBLIC AND THAT CRIME IS DROPPED VIRTUALLY ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!
IT IS ILLEGAL TO HAVE A LOADED PISTOL IN PUBLIC AND THAT CRIME IS PLEA BARGAINED AWAY LIKE SO MANY OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT IS ILLEGAL TO BE IN POSSESSION OF A PISTOL WITHOUT THE PROPER LICENSES AND WITHOUT HAVING COMPLETED TWO LEVELS OF FIREARM TRAINING AND POLICE CHECK AND THAT CRIME IS IGNORED!!!!!!!!!!
IN CANADA- PISTOL REGULATIONS ARE SO TIGHT THAT YOU ARE NOT LEGALLY PERMITTED TO TAKE THE PISTOL- WITH ITS TRIGGER LOCK FIRMLY IN PLACE AND THE WEAPON LOCKED INSIDE A STEEL BOX- OUTSIDE THE HOUSE FOR ANY REASON OTHER THAN TRAVELLING STRAIGHT TO A LICENSED SHOOTING RANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THERE IS NO LEGAL PLACE TO USE A PISTOL IN CANADA OUTSIDE A LICENSED SHOOTING RANGE AND THAT CRIME IS DROPPED ROUTINELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
iT IS ILLEGAL TO STOP ON THE WAY HOME FOR COFFEE AFTER VISITING THE LICENSED SHOOTING RANGE- WITH THE UNLOADED PISTOL TRIGGER BEING LOCKED IN PLACE, THE WEAPON LOCKED IN A STEEL CARRY CASE AND THE CASE LOCKED IN YOUR CAR TRUNK- AND THE AMMUNITION ALWAYS STORED IN A SEPARATE LOCKED CONTAINER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A PISTOL LOCKED AS DESCRIBED ABOVE AND LEFT IN THE TRUNK OF YOUR CAR WHILE YOU DUCK INTO A COFFEE SHOP FOR TAKE OUT IS ILLEGALLY STORED IN CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CONSIDERING THE NUMBER OF REGULATIONS THAT A TYPICAL GANG BANGER HAS BROKEN IN THE COURSE OF SHOOTING SOMEBODY- JUST WHO WANTS TO SUGGEST THAT LIE-BERALS ARE SERIOUS ABOUT CRIME CONTROL???????
AND CONSIDERING ALL THIS INFORMATION- WHO WANTS TO SUGGEST THAT BANNING PISTOLS WILL HAVE ANY EFFECT ON CRIME???????????????
AS FOR DETERRING CRIME- LIE-BERALS SCORN CONSECUTIVE SENTENCING!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES- THE MORE CRIMES YOU COMMIT- THE LIGHTER WILL BE YOUR PUNISHMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PICTURE THE GANG BANGER WHO IS ARRESTED ON WEAPONS AND ASSAULT CHARGES AND ON DRUG POSSESSION- AND HE GETS 3 YEARS FOR ONE CRIME AND 5 YEARS FOR ANOTHER AND 2 YEARS FOR PAROLE VIOLATIONS- AND ANYBODY BUT A LIE-BERAL CAN SEE THAT THE GUY IS FACING 10 YEARS FOR THE VARIOUS CRIMES!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A LIE-BERAL SEES IS A GUY DOING CONCURRENT SENTENCES- MEANING HE IS SERVING SENTENCES FOR 3 SEPARATE CRIMES AT THE SAME TIME- SO HE IS LOOKING AT 5 YEARS JAIL TIME TOTAL - IN THEORY SINCE THE 3 YEAR AND 2 YEAR SENTENCE WILL RUN OUT BEFORE THE 5 YEAR SENTENCE- AND THAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE PROSECUTION TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOR ANYTHING LIKE FULL PROSECUTION CONSIDERING ALL THE PLEA BARGAINING!!!!!!!!!
IN ADDITION, LIE-BERALS CONSIDER RUNNING JAILS TO BE A COSTLY NUISANCE THAT CUTS INTO THEIR SUPPLY OF GRAVY SO THE GANG BANGER WHO WAS LOOKING AT A 10 YEAR STRETCH IN PRISON ACCORDING TO THE THINKING OF ORDINARY CDN`S IS REALLY ONLY LOOKING AT A MAXIMUM OF 5 YEARS- AND EVEN THAT IS A LIE-BERAL LIE- THE GUY WILL GET AT LEAST ONE THIRD- AND MAYBE TWO THIRDS OFF THAT 5 YEAR SENTENCE JUST SO LONG AS HE DOES NOT STAB A GUARD OR ANOTHER PRISONER OR GET CAUGHT SMUGGLING DRUGS INTO THE PRISON!!!!!!!!!!!
tHE JAIL TIME THAT AN ORDINARY cDN COUNTS AS 10 YEARS IS REDUCED TO 20- 30 MONTHS UNDER LIE-BERAL MANIPULATION- AND THAT DOES NOT COUNT THE VARIOUS OTHER CRIMES THAT WERE PLEA BARGAINED AWAY THAT LIE-BERALS THINK WE ARE NOT ENTITLED TO KNOW ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND HOW AWKWARD FOR LIE-BERALS THAT LIE-BERAL MP IVAN GROSE IS NOT AROUND TO TELL US THAT HARSH JAIL TERMS DO NOT DETER CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GROSE WAS THE OSHAWA MP AND FORMER ARMED BANK ROBBER THAT LIE-BERAL CHRETIEN CHOSE TO HEAD A STUDY ON CRIME AND PUNISHMENT AND GROSE TOLD US THAT HARD JAIL TIME FOR CRIMINALS WAS A WASTE OF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
A LIE-BERAL BAN ON PISTOLS WILL QUITE CLEARLY BE UTTERLY IRRELEVANT TO CRIMINALS ON OUR STREETS SINCE MOST OF THEM ARE CARRYING YANKEE SUPPLIED WEAPONS IN DEFIANCE OF A LIST OF EXISTING CDN LAWS ANYWAY!!!!!!!
ANY PERSON WHO SUGGESTS THAT BANNING PISTOLS WILL AFFECT OUR CRIME RATES IS EITHER IN NEED OF MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT OR IS A CARD CARRYING LIE-BERAL SEEKING RE-ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!