Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Tecumsehsbones

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My wife was there when the wall came down and she didn't pack a gun.
At least two people are alive today because I was in the right place with the right skill set.
And you think playing soljer for a couple of years makes you a hero?

Can you point out where I said I was a hero? A quote will do nicely.

No? OK, thanks for your nontribution, imbecile.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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You sure as shit aren't.

I don't recall Curious ever claiming to be a hero. I certainly wasn't. I did my job. I got paid. It was a job worth doing, in my admittedly-not-so-humble opinion. It was sometimes dangerous, but many jobs that don't get the kind of praise the military tends to get are more dangerous, and equally necessary. I was one of millions. But what we did was worth doing.

I don't really understand what you and taxslave are so upset about, upset to the point that you make the claims you do.
 

Cannuck

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Probably better if we quit mentioning the times in our lives that we served, Curious. It's clearly causing the chickenhawks emotional distress.

It's a form of abuse, y'know.

I think it stems from the time I mocked Pete when he told the tale of his heroic exploits saving his wife from an angry gopher
 

bluebyrd35

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Wow. I truly pity you. If you think the individual vote means zilch in the US, then your outlook on the entire world must be very bleek.
I really don't know why I bother with you lot! Have you NO clue about lobbyists and how much influence they can have in an election?

Some time back I posted on how much a corporation, a labour union or any other entity could contribute to a candidate, a political party in Canada. An individual ,I believe can donate more but there is a set limit for companies, unions corporations, as well as how much free time any TV or Radio Station my donate and it must be given evenly granted across the political parties.

Can you even imagine how much influence any entity with 30 million dollars to throw around could do?? Take a look at how much any one of you actually believe that more guns will make the world a better place? Money buys power and in an election buys the government without laws against undue influence over the system.

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-lobbyists-have-so-much-influence-in-American-politics
 

petros

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Speaking of lobbies, did you know the econaut Sierra Club is pro gun?

Take a look at how much any one of you actually believe that more guns will make the world a better place? Money buys power and in an election buys the government without laws against undue influence over the system.

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-lobbyists-have-so-much-influence-in-American-politics
Can you explain why Canada with stricter gun regulations 1/3 of the guns per 100,000 people but has almost half the murder rate per 100K.

Either we are f-cking savages or more guns does lower the murder rate.

Which is it?
 

Corduroy

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How about standing on the bodies of the dead...

Goodale says gun legislation coming in wake of Parkland student shootings



https://ipolitics.ca/2018/03/01/goodale-says-gun-legislation-coming-wake-parkland-student-shootings/


Typical Liberal arsehole.

That's a pretty lame deflection. Calling for gun control after a school shooting isn't exploiting a tragedy. It's doing something about it. You might disagree with what they're doing, but there's a connection between the cause and effect. But that's one of the standard lines. They don't seem as effective anymore. "Thoughts and prayers" "a good guy with a gun" "now is not the time to talk about gun control" - just doesn't feel the same anymore. So desperate you now have to mock the survivors. Given time you all reveal your quality.
 

bluebyrd35

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Speaking of lobbies, did you know the econaut Sierra Club is pro gun?


Can you explain why Canada with stricter gun regulations 1/3 of the guns per 100,000 people but has almost half the murder rate per 100K.

Either we are f-cking savages or more guns does lower the murder rate.

Which is it?
So doesn't that tell you something about the influence of US gun lobbies? If a particular entity i.e. gun lobby can buy the government of what was/is the most powerful nation in the world what would be the extent of that particular entity to influencing legislation. Think how pervasive the idea a citizen must be armed to the teeth in order to survive. Just look at your own attitude. When did you get your knickers in a knot over not being able to buy an automatic weapon of human destruction with no rules whatever? Bet you never even thought about owning one until you stopped playing with your friends and gained an interest in world news

More than 33,000 people die in firearm-related deaths in the United States every year, according to an annual average compiled from C.D.C. data.
 
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Colpy

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That's a pretty lame deflection. Calling for gun control after a school shooting isn't exploiting a tragedy. It's doing something about it. You might disagree with what they're doing, but there's a connection between the cause and effect. But that's one of the standard lines. They don't seem as effective anymore. "Thoughts and prayers" "a good guy with a gun" "now is not the time to talk about gun control" - just doesn't feel the same anymore. So desperate you now have to mock the survivors. Given time you all reveal your quality.

I disagree. Strongly.

The weapon used at Parkland is already restricted in Canada.

The 30 round magazines used at Parkland are already banned in Canada.

And the individual who did the shooting could not have gotten a firearms license in Canada, so he couldn't have bought the gun anyway.

So how in the world can increased Canadian legislation prevent what we have already prevented?

This is simple virtue signalling to soften us up for legislation furthering their radical anti-gun agenda.
 

bluebyrd35

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Speaking of lobbies, did you know the econaut Sierra Club is pro gun?


Can you explain why Canada with stricter gun regulations 1/3 of the guns per 100,000 people but has almost half the murder rate per 100K.

Either we are f-cking savages or more guns does lower the murder rate.

Which is it?
The last stats I looked at for 2016 (the 2017's don't seem to be available yet) With our (Canada's gun laws) laws we have 1/3 of the US gun related deaths per 100,000 people than the US. That totals out to more than 2/3 to 1/3 according to my math for the US. It has nothing to do with number of guns but who, what sort of gun, background checks and age of person with the gun that makes the difference.

That's a pretty lame deflection. Calling for gun control after a school shooting isn't exploiting a tragedy. It's doing something about it. You might disagree with what they're doing, but there's a connection between the cause and effect. But that's one of the standard lines. They don't seem as effective anymore. "Thoughts and prayers" "a good guy with a gun" "now is not the time to talk about gun control" - just doesn't feel the same anymore. So desperate you now have to mock the survivors. Given time you all reveal your quality.
I agree with you. It is the children that were shot at that are the instigators of the campaign for decent rules and laws. These are the ones that were hiding in closets and were the targets of a nut with a gun, while the trained armed deputies were rendered frozen with fear.

If anything improves in this area it will be those young adults who shared the experience hooking up with others of their kind around the country that may bring a bit of law and order here. Previously many of the children were too young and the adults in mass shooting were mostly strangers to each other to be effective in bringing about change.
 

petros

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That's a pretty lame deflection. Calling for gun control after a school shooting isn't exploiting a tragedy. It's doing something about it. You might disagree with what they're doing, but there's a connection between the cause and effect. But that's one of the standard lines. They don't seem as effective anymore. "Thoughts and prayers" "a good guy with a gun" "now is not the time to talk about gun control" - just doesn't feel the same anymore. So desperate you now have to mock the survivors. Given time you all reveal your quality.

What's your opinion on Trump dropping $10B into mental health with expedited treatment for teens?
 

Corduroy

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I disagree. Strongly.

The weapon used at Parkland is already restricted in Canada.

The 30 round magazines used at Parkland are already banned in Canada.

And the individual who did the shooting could not have gotten a firearms license in Canada, so he couldn't have bought the gun anyway.

So how in the world can increased Canadian legislation prevent what we have already prevented?

This is simple virtue signalling to soften us up for legislation furthering their radical anti-gun agenda.

When motivated to act on a shooting, we don't have to react in a way that only prevents the exact shooting motivating us. That would be ridiculous. It would mean that the only way prevent a shooting spree would be to wait until that exact shooting spree to happen. Adding moral indignation onto that kind of illogical nonsense, saying that it's exploitative, is just the kind of backwards morality I'd expect from people who mock the survivors of a school shooting.


I agree with you. It is the children that were shot at that are the instigators of the campaign for decent rules and laws. These are the ones that were hiding in closets and were the targets of a nut with a gun, while the trained armed deputies were rendered frozen with fear.

If anything improves in this area it will be those young adults who shared the experience hooking up with others of their kind around the country that may bring a bit of law and order here. Previously many of the children were too young and the adults in mass shooting were mostly strangers to each other to be effective in bringing about change.

This is the problem these kids are hitting on. No matter what side you're on, you can't deny that school shootings and mass shootings in general are an increasing problem and nothing is being done about them. Whether it's gun control or not, nothing has been done. How emblematic of the sickness of American culture that the security guard (a police officer) and the first few cops on the scene hid and did nothing while children were being slaughtered at school? These kids have aptly named their movement the March for Our Lives. They are being murdered with alarming frequency and adults are doing nothing. How sick is it that in American culture children have to march for their own lives?