Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Urban environments have always had more murder than rural except for the odd multiple killing that artificially skews the figures.
Assuming we are not getting into another REdimark fracas, stats are 'cross all cities.'
Ezra levant likes to talk up a scenario- he gets piad for it.
The Homeowners were beginning to realise that they migh t not get a cent, as they didn't have flood insurance- yet they were also informed that the flood d areas were identified in a 1995 report. The Homes were built on flood areas. The purchasers were not informed.
I became interestedin the High River flood project when either I was debating purchasing a residence, in the town or along the proposed four flood control dammedreservoirs. My conclusion was that the property risk was too high. I am anentrepreneur, and former civil servant. I am not a hydraulics engineer.
During 2001, I examined the construction cost proposalssubmitted to the Alberta Department of Transportation. (The studies and costingwere performed by:
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Proposal part one:
Water management in southern Alberta historically consistsof apportioning out a scarce resource. Controlling floodwaters was seen as a‘distant second ‘goal.
Flood control was undertaken, locally, as bankside leveesand sandbagging in emergencies. The June2013 ‘perfect storm’ shows that we have to take a long look at what otherjurisdictions do to handle sudden massive floods. According to NOAA, thestatistical probability has changed, and the100 year studies are questionable.
River flooding in Southern Alberta divides into two mainparts:
1. Flashflood defense in smaller centres against short rivers with Mountain sources(Highwood River, Cougar Creek) as examples.
2. Defensesagainst major river floods (The Elbow / Bow Red Deer, & South Saskatchewan rivers.)
For the first part, flash flood defense, I looked tocomparable rivers in Nevada & in the unique ‘ring diked ‘communities inSouthern Manitoba.
The Eastern slopes of the Sierra Nevada have three similarrivers to the Highwood,- the Walker, Truckee, and the Carson, These are usuallysmall streams running through small valleys historic communities Yerington (4,000 people) on the Walker, Carson city State Capital, (approx. 60,000people) on
The Carson; then the commercial centre of Reno, (approx.300, 000,) on the Truckee.
Nevada experiences the ‘Pineapple Express’ weather systemsthat roll in from Hawaii /East Pacificocean to dump huge amounts of wet snow, followed by heavy rains, intothe frozen Truckee watershed. (Literally,an ‘atmospheric river). Some water is absorbed by Lake Tahoe - some fills someupstream reservoirs (Boca, etc.). The balance finds its way down the narrowvalley of the Truckee to Reno.
2.
The following attachment s compares the current efforts onthe Truckee River, vs. the historic ‘extensive studies, but no construction’approach on the Highwood River:
http://www.spk.usace.army.mil/Portals/12/documents/usace_project_public_notices/TruckeeMeadows_Nevada_DraftGRR_May2013.pdf
In the 1950’s, the US Army Corps of Engineers ‘channeled theupper Truckee’. Current efforts are to restore the upper marshes and createriparian areas. This
Approach will slow the floodwater to the point where theproposed levees can handle the flood.
http://www.truckeeflood.us/ is the more extensive plan thatwould qualify the Reno residential subdivisions for homeowner flood insuranceunder the FEMA programs.
Proposal Part 2: Acomparison with the Town of High River, pre 2013 flood:
The Town of High River was thoroughly evaluated in 1994-1995for flood prevention. On the accompanying chart, note that the area thatexperienced intensive recent townhouse and condominium development on the southside of the Town is ‘greyed out’
In the summer of 2001, I attended the opening of the TwinValleys reservoir. Over two days I had the chance to meet with the designengineer, and to see the proposal for flood proofing High River and area.
The North West Hydraulics study :Flood Hazard Map Application
Using 1995 data, updated in 2001, showed that a 750 CFS plusflood would create overland flooding that would swamp the Town of High Riverfrom the south. The channel that the water would follow to reach the Little Bowwatershed is outlined in Pink and Red. Noteworthy is the ‘greyed out area’,removed for future study,’ which was developed into townhouse and condominiumprojects. The 2013 flood has been peak estimated at 1,500 cfs/second.
When I looked at purchasing in High River in November of2012, I noted that the overland flood areas remained unprotected. Incomparison, ring dike protection kept 19 of the 20 South Manitoba towns dry in1997 and again in 2009. The town of St Agathe had a failure on the ‘overlandsection’ of the ring dike, but most of the water was contained.
Area & topography :
http://classes.uleth.ca/200703/envs4000a/The%20Little%20Bow%20river%202.pdf
This is a U of Lethbridge student project on the Little bowGlacial outwash valley A glacial outwashhas a minor stream, but the capability to store a lot of water in Valleyentrapments, either by dry or wet dams. Water impoundment provides theprotection of downstream communities, while dry dams ‘slow the water flow’. Anexample is the flood protection of the Miami River valley after flash flood ofthe 20th century.
3.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Conservancy_District
Specific to the Highwood River:
1. Restorethe upstream riparian areas of the Highwood by providing flood marsh areas.Some local ranchers would lose land to tree cover. The oxbow
2. Loops ofthe upper Highwood would be restored, again requiring expropriation of land.
3. Construct‘dry dams ‘on the upper Highwood at the junctions of Both Loft Creek, andPekisko Creek, to trap and slow flood waters. The dry dams would involve movinglocal ranchers, and acreage, homesteads away from the dry dam areas.
4. Constructionof two flow channels, one for two milesnorth of the Highwood, to divert waters into Tongue creek, approx. at 46 St Se.
Construction of a larger flow channel at approx. 562 Ave Seto the head channel of the Little Bow River. Street Se, to approx.2 to 3 milesthen to empty into the Little Bow River. The flow channels would be grassedpasture with obstructions removed. - Crown community pasture. The flood channelto the Little Bow has preference.
5. Using theremoved clay to ‘ring dike’ the built up areas of High River. Setting back theproposed North development further from the Highwood, then ring diking thisdevelopment.
6. Providingring dike barrier gates that the town would seal when the area floods.
7. Dammingthe little Bow outwash valley to create a chain of storage impoundments.
8. Divertingthe seasonal creeks around Frank Lake by an intersection channel. This wouldminimise release of Water from Frank Lake, which is high in dissolved salts andnutrients. (Effluent from the town and the Cargill plant is discharged intoFrank Lake, a Ducks Unlimited marsh.)
The vast part of the 1999 to 2001, studies were neverimplemented. While I saw the working copies, they are not on line. In theintervening twelve years, the town of High River built dangerously close tothe Highwood ‘s North Bank ,and builtups new development s, unprotected against overland flooding, on the south sideof the Town. `
High river has more than doubled in twelve years to a smallcity of 14,000 people, - but has less flood protection than the town of MorrisManitoba (1,900), - or the other 18 ring diked communities in the Red Riverfloodplain.
In Nevada, citizens have the right to the flood information. In High river, they risked losing 400.000.00 homes . The RCMP had a tense situation.
thanks for reading a fairly detained report.
Okay....you are completely off-topic.
People being dumb enough, or being conned into buying homes on a flood plain does not justify the illegal entry to their homes and the seizure of private property.
SO! I could care less , as I've noticed that you troll the site lately to 'pick a fight', but seem to lack the attention span to understand anything in depth- lately.:lol:
With the way a thread about guns has suddenly shifted of topic, I find this little quote a-propos....."Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. "
This comment is not intended as a personal attack but only an interested query. Why does somebody who advertises himself to be an American Republican come to a Canadian forum to argue gun control? We don't have America's gun problems and we certainly do not have America's gun legislation. Our politics are also vastly different from the US - your left wing party is miles to the right of our right wing party.
Please let me give an example. Apparently California has a gun control law that says you cannot travel on the Interstate highway system (ie. I-5) with a firearm in a vehicle without a Highway Patrol permit. You can drive the secondary highways, but travel on the Interstate requires the permit. Presumably there are many other such miscellaneous laws in other US states because the structure of the US constitution is so different from Canada's. Many states have concealed carry legislation. In Canada gun control is in national criminal law, not spread out over provincial and territorial law except for law concerned with hunting.
Why does an American come here to debate guns when there is so much more gun debate in the US? It seems like an anomaly? I’m not saying you are unwelcome, just unexpected?
I'm not an " American Republican ' I 'm a Machiavellian Republican.
that went up when the Fruit Salads were writing long howls about my 'leftism".
My opposition to gun control comes from the way the registry was handled. Gun registry should have been a census item. It became a 'source of lucrative PEI employment".
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I'm not an " American Republican ' I 'm a Machiavellian Republican.
that went up when the Fruit Salads were writing long howls about my 'leftism".
My opposition to gun control comes from the way the registry was handled. Gun registry should have been a census item. It became a 'source of lucrative PEI employment".
Okay - a principled objection. If so I can agree with that. I have hunted since before my teens and I'm in my sixties now. My mom has always been disinterested in hunting almost to the point of hostility. As well she was a lifelong federal Liberal supporter. Yet even she was appalled by the attempted Liberal gun grab and dropped her support of them because of it. Government just should not trample peoples' rights and take their property that way, and it cost the Liberals dearly. I do not think my being a shooter had much to do with her turning her back on the Liberals after a lifetime of support. It was simply a wake-up call about how dictatorial Liberal ideology had become. For the first time in my lifetime Canadians rebelled against the government across the whole political spectrum. One result is the rising power of the NDP.
Colorado lawmakers ousted in recall election over strict gun laws - latimes.com
Oh and this makes it even more delicious!!! The anti-gun groups outspent the NRA and allies by a ratio of 6:1 ......and FAILED.
Take THAT, Bloomberg, you freaking psycho...
Mixed Reactions to Senate Gun Vote | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press
Oh and this makes it even more delicious!!! The anti-gun groups outspent the NRA and allies by a ratio of 6:1 ......and FAILED.
Take THAT, Bloomberg, you freaking psycho...
Mixed Reactions to Senate Gun Vote | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press
Gotta love this!! Sarah Silverman makes a complete fool of herself..........scroll down a bit for the vid:
The Black NRA: Let's Shoot Each Other Some Love | Common Dreams
Then the NRA responds...through Colin Noir
The Black NRA Sarah Silverman Funny Or Die Response - YouTube
And THESE GUYS!!! Gotta love 'em! Sarah gets SLAMMED!!!!
ZoNATION: The Black N.R.A.? More like the Fake N.R.-eh? - YouTube
The Black NRA: Let's Shoot Each Other Some Love | Common Dreams
Then the NRA responds...through Colin Noir
The Black NRA Sarah Silverman Funny Or Die Response - YouTube
And THESE GUYS!!! Gotta love 'em! Sarah gets SLAMMED!!!!
ZoNATION: The Black N.R.A.? More like the Fake N.R.-eh? - YouTube
Read more: PETER HITCHENS: Get rid of the guns, cars and Tasers and we might just end up with real policemen | Mail Online
Now it turns out that all those haughty squads of armed militia who supposedly protect the great and the powerful don’t even know who it is they are meant to be guarding. Prince Andrew was quite right to be angry when two armed officers treated him like a suspect as he strolled in broad daylight in his mother’s garden.
How typical. First, they failed to detect or halt an intruder into Buckingham Palace, surrounded by high walls and fences and an obvious terror target (and nutcase target) if ever there was one.
Next, they failed to recognise one of the best-known people in Britain, who was also one of the very few people who had an absolute right to be there, and whose features should be imprinted on their minds since they are being paid to protect him.
It is ridiculous to accuse the Duke of York of having a self-important ‘Don’t you know who I am?’ moment or of being insufferable or pompous. The officers were paid to know who he was.
It wasn’t as if his presence was unlikely or unexpected or out of context. It’s his childhood home. He was right to be livid, and we should be livid on his behalf.
Now it turns out that all those haughty squads of armed militia who supposedly protect the great and the powerful don’t even know who it is they are meant to be guarding. Prince Andrew was quite right to be angry when two armed officers treated him like a suspect as he strolled in broad daylight in his mother’s garden.
How typical. First, they failed to detect or halt an intruder into Buckingham Palace, surrounded by high walls and fences and an obvious terror target (and nutcase target) if ever there was one.
Next, they failed to recognise one of the best-known people in Britain, who was also one of the very few people who had an absolute right to be there, and whose features should be imprinted on their minds since they are being paid to protect him.
It is ridiculous to accuse the Duke of York of having a self-important ‘Don’t you know who I am?’ moment or of being insufferable or pompous. The officers were paid to know who he was.
It wasn’t as if his presence was unlikely or unexpected or out of context. It’s his childhood home. He was right to be livid, and we should be livid on his behalf.
In case you haven't noticed, Peter Hitchens is an arsehole.
Although he is correct about the Buckingham Palace incident.
Legitimate and illegitimate Windsor family children look enough alike to justify taking no chances.