Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[bluebyrd35]

I love this!!!

Gun Sales Surge: An Obama Bounce?- US Business News - CNBC

You bettcha,,,,afterall, once the laws re gun control, that Americans now have, come under scrutiny, there goes there goes the option of 16 year olds, or grown up bullies/pissed off adults or grandpas shooting up the neighbourhood comes to an end........ instead solving one's problems through negotiation becomes an option..

"Speculation has focused on fears of a coming regulatory crackdown on gun ownership. Liberal administrations tend to be anti-gun tand so, the thinking goes, an Obama re-election would set the stage for stricter gun purchasing requirements. Hence, people are buying now in anticipation of difficulty later."

Imagine that!! Even the most paranoid amongst us will have to own up to all the firearms in their possession.

 

[L Gilbert]

You bettcha,,,,afterall, once the laws re gun control, that Americans now have, come under scrutiny, there goes there goes the option of 16 year olds, or grown up bullies/pissed off adults or grandpas shooting up the neighbourhood comes to an end........ instead solving one's problems through negotiation becomes an option..

"Speculation has focused on fears of a coming regulatory crackdown on gun ownership. Liberal administrations tend to be anti-gun tand so, the thinking goes, an Obama re-election would set the stage for stricter gun purchasing requirements. Hence, people are buying now in anticipation of difficulty later."

Imagine that!!

Yeah. I can also imagine that the efectivenss of any stricter gun legislation in the States would be less than it was here. Regular people in Canada made the Registry into a farce. Loads of people didn't register at all, some registered only a few of their firearms, and some people registered stuff like water guns, hair blowers, paint strippers, pneumatic staplers, impact drivers, and whatever else even had any semblance of being a gun.
Canadians have a different view of guns than Americans. IMO, most Canadians simply view them as tools whereas most Americans view them as necessities to their way of life (kind of like tvs and baby soothers and McDonald's).

 

[CDNBear]

You bettcha,,,,afterall, once the laws re gun control, that Americans now have, come under scrutiny, there goes there goes the option of 16 year olds, or grown up bullies/pissed off adults or grandpas shooting up the neighbourhood comes to an end........ instead solving one's problems through negotiation becomes an option..

"Speculation has focused on fears of a coming regulatory crackdown on gun ownership. Liberal administrations tend to be anti-gun tand so, the thinking goes, an Obama re-election would set the stage for stricter gun purchasing requirements. Hence, people are buying now in anticipation of difficulty later."

Imagine that!! Even the most paranoid amongst us will have to own up to all the firearms in their possession.

Imagine that, the irony of talking about paranoia at the end of a paranoid rant, lol.

 

[DaSleeper]

Imagine that, the irony of talking about paranoia at the end of a paranoid rant, lol.

And she must have an email alert for a Colpy post in this thread....She is here what EAO is to Israel threads

 

[taxslave]

You bettcha,,,,afterall, once the laws re gun control, that Americans now have, come under scrutiny, there goes there goes the option of 16 year olds, or grown up bullies/pissed off adults or grandpas shooting up the neighbourhood comes to an end........ instead solving one's problems through negotiation becomes an option..

"Speculation has focused on fears of a coming regulatory crackdown on gun ownership. Liberal administrations tend to be anti-gun tand so, the thinking goes, an Obama re-election would set the stage for stricter gun purchasing requirements. Hence, people are buying now in anticipation of difficulty later."

Imagine that!! Even the most paranoid amongst us will have to own up to all the firearms in their possession.

So you really think that all the criminals are going to register/turn in all their guns just because of some new law? Let us know how that one works out for you.

 

[tworivers]

Just came back to Canada after working abroad for 12 years and 10 of those were in Alaska.
The other 2 were in Russia and Ukraine. I was glad to be back , then I noticed a difference from when I left.
It seems that many people in our country like to have every aspect of their life controlled with laws , rules and taxes. Now I understand the need for certain laws but here in Canada it has gone way to far now and gun control is one of those. In a free country individual rights must be kept sacred and as a gun owner it is my belief that owning a gun,whether it be a handgun or rifle,is up to the individual. In Alaska I had a concealed permit for my revolvers. Now reading here it seems that some of the misinformed people want to control my personal life. That is unacceptable and it is not freedom as in I do not tell those people how to drive and I am pretty sure that more people die in vehicles than by guns here and look how well registration has worked for that in stopping vehicular deaths. In Russia and Ukraine you cannot own a gun unless you are very rich and can bribe people to get one...look at how well they are doing as the police and army are the only ones with guns , ever wonder why more people there never speak out very loudly.
I believe in being able to look after yourself , not have the government do it for you. Now I am not just talking about breaking into homes and shooting the burglar as that is only one side to a gun. I hunt and we eat moose year round along with sheep and caribou. I carry a revolver with me when I am out just in case and that is smart not showing off masculinity and if you have ever had a bear at close quarters you would understand . For those who want to give there rights away fine but do it somewhere else. Now before replying to this please read the whole thing and it is not in separate sentences so refer to the whole article.

Something else to remember and this is a history lesson for those gun control folks. When you give your rights and freedoms away you will not like how you will have to get them back.

 

[L Gilbert]

Just came back to Canada after working abroad for 12 years and 10 of those were in Alaska.
The other 2 were in Russia and Ukraine. I was glad to be back , then I noticed a difference from when I left.
It seems that many people in our country like to have every aspect of their life controlled with laws , rules and taxes. Now I understand the need for certain laws but here in Canada it has gone way to far now and gun control is one of those. In a free country individual rights must be kept sacred and as a gun owner it is my belief that owning a gun,whether it be a handgun or rifle,is up to the individual. In Alaska I had a concealed permit for my revolvers. Now reading here it seems that some of the misinformed people want to control my personal life. That is unacceptable and it is not freedom as in I do not tell those people how to drive and I am pretty sure that more people die in vehicles than by guns here and look how well registration has worked for that in stopping vehicular deaths. In Russia and Ukraine you cannot own a gun unless you are very rich and can bribe people to get one...look at how well they are doing as the police and army are the only ones with guns , ever wonder why more people there never speak out very loudly.
I believe in being able to look after yourself , not have the government do it for you. Now I am not just talking about breaking into homes and shooting the burglar as that is only one side to a gun. I hunt and we eat moose year round along with sheep and caribou. I carry a revolver with me when I am out just in case and that is smart not showing off masculinity and if you have ever had a bear at close quarters you would understand . For those who want to give there rights away fine but do it somewhere else. Now before replying to this please read the whole thing and it is not in separate sentences so refer to the whole article.

Yep, nannyism being what it is.

Something else to remember and this is a history lesson for those gun control folks. When you give your rights and freedoms away you will not like how you will have to get them back.

Reactionaries don't usually tend to look ahead at consequences.

 

[tworivers]

Where the heck do you get your stats!!

'For comparison, the Canadian murder rate is 1.6 per 100,000 per year. Three TIMES that of US gun "nuts".

From Wicki: "The year following the introduction of firearms licensing in Canada (1977), saw a significant decline in murder involving firearms, relative to other mechanisms.[30] From 1977 to 2003 Canada firearm homicide has declined from 1.15 to 0.5 per 100,000

The only deaths not listed in your stats are old age!!

Simple fact is that there are bad people out there....always has been always will be.
Personally I have never shot anyone...would I ever shoot someone....well if the circumstances were right yes.
Have I ever pointed a loaded gun at someone....yes.
Two young fellows broke into my barn in Alaska...while they were looking for something to "borrow" I quietly walked in without them seeing me. I have a Springfield 1911 and railed one behind them and when they heard it they froze knowing exactly what it was. I lived 23 miles east of Fairbanks on the Chena Hotsprings road and calling the troopers would have been useless. We had a short conversation where I did all the talking and they left , then I called the troopers. Difference there is they said I did the right thing.
I had a gun , was in the states pulled it but did not go in guns blazing like most here thinks that happens.
You hear lots of stories like that , just that they never make the news because no one dies.
Here is something to consider.....you are getting the hell beat out of you by a mugger...now would you feel better if I pulled my revolver and confronted him or I am guessing by what you say you feel safer that I stay on the side lines and call the police.

 

[taxslave]

Simple fact is that there are bad people out there....always has been always will be.
Personally I have never shot anyone...would I ever shoot someone....well if the circumstances were right yes.
Have I ever pointed a loaded gun at someone....yes.
Two young fellows broke into my barn in Alaska...while they were looking for something to "borrow" I quietly walked in without them seeing me. I have a Springfield 1911 and railed one behind them and when they heard it they froze knowing exactly what it was. I lived 23 miles east of Fairbanks on the Chena Hotsprings road and calling the troopers would have been useless. We had a short conversation where I did all the talking and they left , then I called the troopers. Difference there is they said I did the right thing.
I had a gun , was in the states pulled it but did not go in guns blazing like most here thinks that happens.
You hear lots of stories like that , just that they never make the news because no one dies.
Here is something to consider.....you are getting the hell beat out of you by a mugger...now would you feel better if I pulled my revolver and confronted him or I am guessing by what you say you feel safer that I stay on the side lines and call the police.

The anti gun crowd do not deal in realities. They deal in abstract touchy feely abstracts.

 

[Colpy]

Where the heck do you get your stats!!

'For comparison, the Canadian murder rate is 1.6 per 100,000 per year. Three TIMES that of US gun "nuts".

From Wicki: "The year following the introduction of firearms licensing in Canada (1977), saw a significant decline in murder involving firearms, relative to other mechanisms.[30] From 1977 to 2003 Canada firearm homicide has declined from 1.15 to 0.5 per 100,000

The only deaths not listed in your stats are old age!!

I did the math.

 

[Colpy]

Government quietly confirms that gun registry data has been destroyed

 

[taxslave]

Government quietly confirms that gun registry data has been destroyed

That should be front page news. Might be kind of upsetting for those that claim Harper is a liar and breaks promises though.

 

[Colpy]

Meet the Man Responsible for the Death of Canada's Gun Registry - Forbes

 

[taxslave]

Meet the Man Responsible for the Death of Canada's Gun Registry - Forbes

But it was a great excuse to create a bunch of high paying government jobs in a lib friendly riding with high unemployment.

 

[Colpy]

But it was a great excuse to create a bunch of high paying government jobs in a lib friendly riding with high unemployment.

Oddly enough, the Liberal MP for Miramichi consistently voted against the gov't on the Firearms Act.....even after being whipped. He knew his riding, and he would have been ousted after a pro-control vote, if not tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail.

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[tay]

"Repealing the unnecessary gun shows regulations shows our government is focused on protecting families and communities (mmmmmmmmmm??) and not pushing administrative burdens on law-abiding gun owners,"
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But in an undated briefing note, obtained by CBC News's Power & Politics through an access to information request for documents that were sent in February 2012, the department's deputy minister issued Toews a warning:

"The CFO (Chief Firearms Officer) community has noted unsafe display of firearms across the country. CFOs have also noted incidents where exhibitors were criminally charged in relation to the trafficking and unauthorized possession of firearms at gun shows."

Memo warned Toews of risks in dropping gun show rules - Politics - CBC News

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[Locutus]

Finally, a Liberal speaks some sense on gun control

The Liberals long claimed that the long-gun registry would save lives. Right now, it seems more apt at damaging their own careers.

Despite being scrapped months ago (except in Quebec, where the courts are considering a jurisdictional spat between the province and Ottawa), the registry has become an issue in the Liberal leadership race. Justin Trudeau got the ball rolling when he declared that the registry was a failure that he would not work to bring back.

After being thoroughly criticized, Trudeau retreated. His subsequent “clarification,” however, was so convoluted — including new definitions of the term “failure” — that Trudeau was left looking like exactly what his critics say he is: a dilettante in far over his head.


read on


Gun registry: Finally, a Liberal speaks some sense on gun control | Full Comment | National Post

 

[DaSleeper]

If Garneau were to get the leadership of the party, and If a suitable local were to run on the Liberal ticket (properly vetted of course), I might even vote <shudder>Liberal for the first time since '75 and only if he/she would have a chance to disloge the NDP candidate we now have..............

Trudeau just spouts typical politician double talk.

 

[captain morgan]

If Garneau were to get the leadership of the party, and If a suitable local were to run on the Liberal ticket (properly vetted of course), I might even vote <shudder>Liberal for the first time since '75 and only if he/she would have a chance to disloge the NDP candidate we now have..............

It would take an exceptional set of circumstances for me to even have a nightmare about voting Liberal

Trudeau just spouts typical politician double talk.

He's just like his old man. A myopic, stubborn and double-speak individual that will say anything to pimp for a vote.

 

[L Gilbert]

He's just like his old man. A myopic, stubborn and double-speak individual that will say anything to pimp for a vote.

... and more recently, Jean ChRETIeN and aPauling Martin.