A perfect example of out of control idiocy!! Why didn't Rodriguez keep on the cops to do their job, Now one stupid man is dead because of another stupid one with a gun. Why weren't the noise makers charged with disturbing the peace?? Unbelievable.
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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A perfect example of out of control idiocy!! Why didn't Rodriguez keep on the cops to do their job, Now one stupid man is dead because of another stupid one with a gun. Why weren't the noise makers charged with disturbing the peace?? Unbelievable.
WHy involve the government when they can just kill each other and let god sort it out?
Ahhh, and who is omnipetent enough to choose between the "good smart person and the bad stupid one??" or even just the smart drunk and the stupid sober one" So far it is not working out very well.
If you are a democrat (in the sense that you believe in democracy) then you know that the people are trustworthy, that despite the bad apples, the greater part of the people are responsible, decent, and make good decisions.
Or democracy is a waste of time.
If you have a pulse strong enough to send blood to the brain, you know that the irresponsible, the dangerous, and the criminals, will get firearms anyway.
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How comforting to the stupid drunks.......or the equally stupid sober one. One dead, two in hospital and the other on trial for the death and injuries!! How much does the incident put up the cost of medicare payments or the expense on the justice system.
Sure they will, and right now there are a hell of a lot of them loose in the US. So, of course the " stand your ground law" in some states in the US is good law .....just record the conversation yelling you are afraid for you life and fire. Great fun!! Looking forward to the day when Canadians can do the same are you??
Have a problem with reading comprehension I guess? I couldn't give a hoot either way, as long as such laws don't reach my Canadian address. Have enough problems avoiding the nuts with guns at the US address.
Lots of rules down there.......never ever make eye contact with an angry person, on the street, while in the car or even meeting in public places, is one I recommend heartily.
Never happen in Canada.
BTW, since the right to carry concealed weapons law first passed in Florida back in the late 80s, 40 states have followed suit in one manner or another.
And the murder rate has dropped 40%.
Explain, please.
Typical .............. Approve of making playthings of guns or as an excuse to do law-enforcement's jobs for them ....or you must be anti-democratic. As for arming everyone to the teeth in order to protect ourselves from dangerous numbskulls and criminals who steal and smuggle them, that is what we pay law-enforcement for. Is the next step, adopting the old west's way of solving problems?? Show down at noon in front of the saloon?
There are so many more suicides, murders and accidental shootings, than there are legitimate shootings in a year. Yours is a piss poor argument all the way around. Please notice I do not have to use personal digs or inferences as to your mental state to get my point across. Try it sometime.
I do not accept your stats. I live in Florida nearly 5 months every year and have done for 23 plus years. Over those yeas I have watch to stats climb. Because Florida has the death penalty, it is maiming or claims of self defence that we see more of. The self defense is like the officer in California who shot a man several times while the man was on his hands and knees. He was acquitted. Not sure what will happen now that the camera footage from a by-stander's phone has surfaced anonymously.
Believe it........
United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2010
Homicide Rate (per 100,000), 1950–2007 — Infoplease.com
Please note Murder Rate 1989: 8.7 per 100,000, trending up.........
Then note Murder rate 2010: 4.8 per 100,000
That would be a drop of 44.8 %.....and still trending down.
Gun laws in the USA have gotten continually more lax. Since 1990 Assault weapons bans have been overturned, gun bans have been ruled unconstitutional as the US Supreme Court rules gun ownership is an individual right, and state after state after state introduces "must issue" concealed carry permits.........and gun sales go through the roof.
Those are the facts.....verifiable.
Explain please.
By the chart you submitted it shows overall crime rates have virturally doubled between 1960 and 2010. Stats can be screwed to prove whatever one wishes. What I see is that the "murder" rate has decreased minimally. The rest of the results are all up. What is not mentioned is how many of the other crimes guns were used in. Accidental deaths, woundings, suicides are not included.
And that chart does not mention, how the crime stats that have tripled,and more in some cases, what percentage involved guns. I know how to read stats and those are woefully inadequate as far as guns are concerned. Murder isn't the only life changing event guns cause. Guns were/are produced for one purpose to kill, wound or maim. The electric chair was produced for simply killing of offenders. Should we all keep one in our homes just in case??
I'm sorry but I do not and cannot think of guns in any other context than killing machines. And I certainly don't intend to support the US gun producers, inspite of the fact that industry is probably the most lucrative for the US government, as far as tax revenu goes.
Awww but that is another topic all together. I have pointed out the flaws in your stats, and my views on the subject. Unless, you can come up with something less depressing than having everyone walking around afraid for their lives because they don't own a gun, this is one disinterested lady. I prefer men and women who are interested in more benign play choices and toys.
Easy to explain: because of urbanization, actual gun ownership density is in decline. Is it a fact? Who knows, but if we are just tossing out hypotheses, that explains the drop.
Yeah right. Gun densities are dropping......
Gun sales at record levels, according to FBI background checks - CNN
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...buy-record-numbers-of-guns-for-Christmas.html
Guns in the United States: Facts, Figures and Firearm Law
While we are at it.......gun sales (from background checks) in the USA:
2011: 10,037,110 (3,217 per 100,000)
2010: 8,753,555 (2,835 per 100,000)
2009: 8,927,138 (2,907 per 100,000)
2008: 8,426,245 (2,771 per 100,000)
2007: 7,530,727 (2,499 per 100,000)
2006: 7,361,033 (2,467 per 100,000)
2005: 6,935,952 (2,346 per 100,000)
2004: 6,599,292 (2,253 per 100,000)
2003: 6,333,371 (2,182 per 100,000)
2002: 6,347,492 (2,206 per 100,000)
(from The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence)
So much for THAT idea!!!!!!
Is THAT supposed to be a serious response???
I proved it....gun ownership goes up, gun laws are significantly eased, seven million Americans are licensed to carry concealed pistols, millions more require no license to carry, murder rates drop............
Deal with it.