Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[Colpy]

On the lighter side:

Look out for Seniors!

(Supposedly) True story from a Kansas Highway Patrol Trooper


I made a traffic stop on an elderly lady the other day for speeding

on U.S. 166 Eastbound at Mile Marker 73 just East of Sedan, KS.

I asked for her driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance.

The lady took out the required information and handed it to me.

In with the cards I was somewhat surprised (due to her advanced age)

to see she had a conceal carry permit. I looked at her and ask if

she had a weapon in her possession at this time.

She responded that she indeed had a .45 automatic in her glove box.

Something---body language, or the way she said it---made me want

to ask if she had any other firearms. She did admit to also having

a 9mm Glock in her center console. Now I had to ask one more

time if that was all. She responded once again that she did have

just one more, a .38 special in her purse. I then asked her what

was she so afraid of.


She looked me right in the eye and said, "Not a damn thing!"

 

[ironsides]

:lol::lol:

 

[ironsides]

Remington 770 Rifle, Blue Finish, RH, Bolt Action, 30-06 Caliber, 22 Inch Barrel, Synthetic Grips, Scope Included
$314.95

 

[Colpy]

Interesting OP in the NP...

Criminal record checks, 28-day waiting periods, the long-gun registry: none has done anything to stem Canadian firearm homicide rates, according to a new study by an emergency-medicine academic.

Gun control, homicide rates not linked: study | News | National Post

Also this:

“We have the same numbers … and we’ve found the opposite,” said Amelie Baillargeon, communications coordinator for the Coalition for Gun Control.
A Université de Montrèal study published January in the Canadian Journal of Criminology and Justice similarly examined Canadian firearms homicide rates since 1974. The study also factored in external influences such as immigrant populations, the proportion of young men between the ages of 15 and 24 and the per-capita consumption of beer. That study, however, found that Canadian gun legislation was responsible for 5% to 10% drops in firearms homicides.

Now, that IS interesting..............I was selling guns in the mid-70s........then you could (for example) walk into a store without any ID at all, pick up a semi-auto military style .30 M1 Carbine, as many 30 round mags as you wanted, and a thousand rounds of ammunition........and if you looked like you were SEVENTEEN years old.....and had the money, you walked out without so much as the sale being recorded.

So, 35 years of harassment, billions and billions of dollars spent, rights truncated, personal property seized without compensation, businesses closed down, people thrown in jail and their lives ruined, the population largely disarmed......and, according to the most fanatical anti-gun group in anti-gun Montreal, MAYBE 5 to 10 percent of murders with FIREARMS have been prevented.

What a joke!!!

Gun Control is COMPLETELY useless.

 

[Colpy]

I'm REALLY liking this stuff.....not that I am AT ALL surprised!

So what happened to Chicago's Murder and Violent Crime rates after the Supreme Court decision in June 2010 striking down Chicago's gun laws?





John Lott's Website: So what happened to Chicago's Murder and Violent Crime rates after the Supreme Court decision in June 2010 striking down Chicago's gun laws?

Oh, and how about Washington DC????

DC's murder and violent crime rates keep falling after their gunlock and gun ban laws were struck down

http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2010/09/dcs-murder-and-violent-crime-rates-keep.html

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...-owners-cant-let-good-news-go-to-their-heads/

 

[Bar Sinister]

I'm REALLY liking this stuff.....not that I am AT ALL surprised!

So what happened to Chicago's Murder and Violent Crime rates after the Supreme Court decision in June 2010 striking down Chicago's gun laws?





John Lott's Website: So what happened to Chicago's Murder and Violent Crime rates after the Supreme Court decision in June 2010 striking down Chicago's gun laws?

Oh, and how about Washington DC????

DC's murder and violent crime rates keep falling after their gunlock and gun ban laws were struck down

John Lott's Website: DC's murder and violent crime rates keep falling after their gunlock and gun ban laws were struck down

Matt Gurney: Lawful firearms owners can’t let good news go to their heads | Full Comment | National Post

Yeah right. The presence of more guns than people in the US has had no effect whatsoever on the murder rate in the US. What is it - only three times that of Canada?

 

[ironsides]

Yeah right. The presence of more guns than people in the US has had no effect whatsoever on the murder rate in the US. What is it - only three times that of Canada?

With 10 times the population. A well armed civilian population does reduce random violent crime.

 

[JLM]

With 10 times the population. A well armed civilian population does reduce random violent crime.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people! :smile:

 

[wulfie68]

With 10 times the population. A well armed civilian population does reduce random violent crime.

The actual population is largely irrelevant: the stats are usually related in terms of murders per 100,000 people. What it is relevant is population density and the issues that can generate (and the US population is more concentrated than Canada's).

 

[Colpy]

Yeah right. The presence of more guns than people in the US has had no effect whatsoever on the murder rate in the US. What is it - only three times that of Canada?

Yeah, about three times the level of Canada.

The United States unfortunately has an inherently more violent society than Canada.........why, I am not so sure........but their murder rate without guns is also significantly higher than Canada's (1.4 compared to 1.9 per 100,000)

And the western states in the USA along the Canadian border, as I pointed out in the first OP of this giant thread, have lower murder rates than the provinces a stone's throw away.......much lower, despite no gun control at all, by Canadian standards.

And even the most -foaming-at-the-mouth statist ant-gun loonies in Canada only claim a 5 to 10 percent reduction in rates despite.....well, you read it below.

A complete waste of time, money, resources, to the detriment of liberty.

 

[#juan]

Yeah, about three times the level of Canada.

The United States unfortunately has an inherently more violent society than Canada.........why, I am not so sure........but their murder rate without guns is also significantly higher than Canada's (1.4 compared to 1.9 per 100,000)

And the western states in the USA along the Canadian border, as I pointed out in the first OP of this giant thread, have lower murder rates than the provinces a stone's throw away.......much lower, despite no gun control at all, by Canadian standards.

And even the most -foaming-at-the-mouth statist ant-gun loonies in Canada only claim a 5 to 10 percent reduction in rates despite.....well, you read it below.

A complete waste of time, money, resources, to the detriment of liberty.

I've casually been looking in on this topic for about five years now. I think we should have gun control of
some sort. I own a twelve gauge, and older Winchester model 94, and a Mossburg 22 rifle. I don't do
much hunting anymore.......the idea of wading through scrub brush and deadfall for several hours in
hopes of getting a moose that I can butcher and backpack back through that same scrubbrush and
deadfall is just not as attractive as it once was.
One thing is quite clear, is that some people should not have a gun of any sort. You know the type,
the guys who shoot the insulators off power lines, or shoot holes through road signs. There are others,
and they are the reason we need some form of gun control.

 

[mentalfloss]

Guns don't kill people, people kill people! :smile:

Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.

 

[#juan]

I've casually been looking in on this topic for about five years now. I think we should have gun control of
some sort. I own a twelve gauge, and older Winchester model 94, and a Mossburg 22 rifle. I don't do
much hunting anymore.......the idea of wading through scrub brush and deadfall for several hours in
hopes of getting a moose that I can butcher and backpack back through that same scrubbrush and
deadfall is just not as attractive as it once was.
One thing is quite clear, is that some people should not have a gun of any sort. You know the type,
the guys who shoot the insulators off power lines, or shoot holes through road signs. There are others,
and they are the reason we need some form of gun control.

 

[Colpy]

Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.

Actually, people with legal firearms are much less apt to kill you.

The murder rate among holders of Firearms Licenses is one half to one third that of the population at large, despite the license holders being overwhelmingly male, and having (by definition) easy access to firearms.

 

[JLM]

I've casually been looking in on this topic for about five years now. I think we should have gun control of
some sort. I own a twelve gauge, and older Winchester model 94, and a Mossburg 22 rifle. I don't do
much hunting anymore.......the idea of wading through scrub brush and deadfall for several hours in
hopes of getting a moose that I can butcher and backpack back through that same scrubbrush and
deadfall is just not as attractive as it once was.
One thing is quite clear, is that some people should not have a gun of any sort. You know the type,
the guys who shoot the insulators off power lines, or shoot holes through road signs. There are others,
and they are the reason we need some form of gun control.

Not to mention a little more "criminal control". :lol:

 

[ironsides]

Guns don't kill people, people kill people! :smile:

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Yup, guns are just harmless pieces of metal. :smile:

I've casually been looking in on this topic for about five years now. I think we should have gun control of
some sort. I own a twelve gauge, and older Winchester model 94, and a Mossburg 22 rifle. I don't do
much hunting anymore.......the idea of wading through scrub brush and deadfall for several hours in
hopes of getting a moose that I can butcher and backpack back through that same scrubbrush and
deadfall is just not as attractive as it once was.
One thing is quite clear, is that some people should not have a gun of any sort. You know the type,
the guys who shoot the insulators off power lines, or shoot holes through road signs. There are others,
and they are the reason we need some form of gun control.

No argument there, unfortunately shooting insulators off power lines, or shooting holes through road signs are not considered a condition not to own a weapon.

"The Brady Act requires that background checks be conducted on individuals before a firearm may be purchased from a federally licensed dealer, manufacturer or importer - unless an exception applies. If there are no additional state restrictions, a firearm may be transferred to an individual upon approval by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) maintained by the FBI."

We do have National gun control in the United States. Most States even require more.

 

[Bar Sinister]

With 10 times the population. A well armed civilian population does reduce random violent crime.

Umm - It's three times per capita. Not total, but I would not expect a supporter of firearms to understand that.

 

[EagleSmack]

Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.

Bullets kill people.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Yeah, about three times the level of Canada.

The United States unfortunately has an inherently more violent society than Canada.........why, I am not so sure........but their murder rate without guns is also significantly higher than Canada's (1.4 compared to 1.9 per 100,000)

And the western states in the USA along the Canadian border, as I pointed out in the first OP of this giant thread, have lower murder rates than the provinces a stone's throw away.......much lower, despite no gun control at all, by Canadian standards.

And even the most -foaming-at-the-mouth statist ant-gun loonies in Canada only claim a 5 to 10 percent reduction in rates despite.....well, you read it below.

A complete waste of time, money, resources, to the detriment of liberty.

Somehow or other I can't picture any anti-gun types foaming at the mouth. As a matter of fact I doubt there are any Ted Nugent types among gun control advocates. It is interesting to note, however, that when societies around the world are compared lower murder rates seem to be much more common in nations with fewer firearms.

That is what makes Canada and the US such an interesting study so far as firearms are concerned. The two countries have so many similarities that most foreigners cannot tell a Canadian from an American, but the level of gun violence in each nation is quite different. Given the similarities in their cultures it would seem that the major difference is simply the access to firearms in the US. Guns may not kill people, but they sure make it a lot easier.

 

[Colpy]

Somehow or other I can't picture any anti-gun types foaming at the mouth. As a matter of fact I doubt there are any Ted Nugent types among gun control advocates. It is interesting to note, however, that when societies around the world are compared lower murder rates seem to be much more common in nations with fewer firearms.

That is what makes Canada and the US such an interesting study so far as firearms are concerned. The two countries have so many similarities that most foreigners cannot tell a Canadian from an American, but the level of gun violence in each nation is quite different. Given the similarities in their cultures it would seem that the major difference is simply the access to firearms in the US. Guns may not kill people, but they sure make it a lot easier.

First of all, Canada lacks the inner cities that America has in abundance, and where most of the gun violence originates........Jane and Finch times 1,000. And yes, there is no problem getting guns at Jane and Finch......

Secondly, the claim that murder rates and gun availability world-wide are in any way related is a complete fallacy. Take a look at the list of countries with the highest gun ownership....

List of countries by gun ownership - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Then look at the countries by murder rate......

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are about to discover you have been drinking the kool-aid of the anti-gunners........

Take the top ten gun-owning nations on earth. The MEAN of the murder rates in those countries is 3.02 per 100,000.

the world average is 6.9 per 100,000.

Of the top ten gun-owning countries in the world, Iraq has the highest murder rate at 7.3 per 100,000.

Iraq ranks SEVENTY-FOURTH on the world scale.................all the other big gun owning countries are even lower, and include some of the safest nations on earth. three have murder rates of LESS than 1 per 100,000.

If there is any corelation between gun ownership and murder rates, it is a NEGATIVE one.

Gun control is completely useless, perhaps worse than useless.

The proof is in the numbers.