Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Tecumsehsbones

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If the 2nd ammendment was only about hunting rights...somewhere between the declaration of independence and the constitution hearings, the forefathers of America must have change their minds about 'we the people'
Actually, the need for a militia presupposes not having a standing army, but it don't matter.

In the U.S., it don't even matter if you ban future sales of guns, with more guns than people in the country. You'd have to confiscate.

And that WOULD lead to rebellion, not just the Charge of the White Brigade.
 
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Actually, the need for a militia presupposes not having a standing army, but it don't matter.

In the U.S., it don't even matter if you ban future sales of guns, with more guns than people in the country. You'd have to confiscate.

And that WOULD lead to rebellion, not just the Charge of the White Brigade.
LOL they will jut turn off your cable till you give them up Haha,
 

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Gotta love 30.06.

My father and his hunting buddies couldn't figure out why it barely went through the skull of the first deer he shot with his new rifle in the early 60s, till they realized it had gone straight through a 4 inch oak sapling first.
 

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Not to mention, it is both semi-automatic and twice as powerful as any 5.56 (like the AR 15) Thanks, Moms, for the laugh.
Twice? Four or five times, I'd say. Heck the ball is more'n three times as heavy as a standard 5.56. And a gigantic load of powder pushing it.

The Garand was overpowered, and the U.S. seriously debated going to a .308 (7.62x51). Reason they stuck with the .30.06 (7.62x63) is that the entire ammo industry was already tooled for it.

There was actually a thread of opinion in the U.S. military when I was in that the 5.56x45 was chosen because, in terms of combat effectiveness, it's actually better to f*ck up an enemy soldier than to kill him, because you tie up enemy resources in taking care of him.
 
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Twice? Four or five times, I'd say. Heck the ball is more'n three times as heavy as a standard 5.56. And a gigantic load of powder pushing it.

The Garand was overpowered, and the U.S. seriously debated going to a .308 (7.62x51). Reason they stuck with the .30.06 (7.62x63) is that the entire ammo industry was already tooled for it.

There was actually a thread of opinion in the U.S. military when I was in that the 5.56x45 was chosen because, in terms of combat effectiveness, it's actually better to f*ck up an enemy soldier than to kill him, because you tie up enemy resources in taking care of him.
Naw, it's because getting the job done right with one round is beyond a lot of you rapid fire/short range type shooters.
 

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Twice? Four or five times, I'd say. Heck the ball is more'n three times as heavy as a standard 5.56. And a gigantic load of powder pushing it.

The Garand was overpowered, and the U.S. seriously debated going to a .308 (7.62x51). Reason they stuck with the .30.06 (7.62x63) is that the entire ammo industry was already tooled for it.

There was actually a thread of opinion in the U.S. military when I was in that the 5.56x45 was chosen because, in terms of combat effectiveness, it's actually better to f*ck up an enemy soldier than to kill him, because you tie up enemy resources in taking care of him.
Yeah. I was basing power on muzzle energy stats..........which makes the .30-06 something a little over twice as powerful.

And yeah, I heard the 5.56 ability to wound was the reason it was adopted..........but I think a more reasonable explanation is the weight of the ammunition. It weighs one half the weight of a 7.62 x 51 NATO round, so a soldier can carry twice as much ammunition.

A lot of reasons went into the decision, I imagine.
 
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