Gun Control is Completely Useless.

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Irish transportees were first brought to Jamaica in large numbers as indentured servants under the English republic of Oliver Cromwell following the capture of Jamaica from the Spanish in 1655 by William Pen and Robert Venables as part of Cromwell's strategic plan to dominate the Caribbean: the "Western Design".
I learn something new everyday here. So I might have been partially right somehow with my guess. Might explain the surnames of Smart & Chambers and also might explain some of the few pale redheaded Cubans I've met perhaps as Jamaica to Cuba isn't a bit stretch. Those poor bastards in that climate are so prone to skin cancer with their fair complexions.
I learned that from a Bob Marley documentary. Lol.

Actually years ago from a steamfitter at K2.
 

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Poor Rashawn & Jahwayne. Maybe the heatwave in Ontario until recently combined with Melanoma made them do it. I can see where a dirty sunburn would make someone go buy prohibited weapons on the black market with overcapacity magazines not available for sale in Canada and file off the serial#'s before going on a drive-by shooting. Just connecting the dots (freckles?).
This Justin'ifies the recent gun legislation against legal firearms owners & the Carbon Tax at the same time!! That'll learn us all from being Jamaican/Irish Gang Bangers in Toronto with prohibited (since before Rashawn & Jahwayne where born) weapons with overcapacity magazines. I've learned my lesson whatever it is I guess.
Without question gun violence amongst gangsters isnt an ethnic issue but a product of Climate Change and single use bags.
 

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Trudeau, blaming Doug Ford for the shooting that killed a 12 year old in Toronto.

Why? Because Doug Ford won't allow Toronto to ban handguns.

This REALLY pisses me off.

The shooting was done with FULL AUTO machine pistols. They have been completely banned in Canada for over 40 years.

And Trudeau is a lying, manipulative, vicious PoS.

Sorry to state the obvious.
 

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WARNING: Another idiotic Liberal boondoggle on the horizon!​

From the CSSA.........

Why Can’t Bill Blair Buy a Scapegoat?​

Scapegoat: one that bears the blame for othershttp://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001hq-6...b0dHBhTUULTYB7XjAW26v9O2ulm3Mf31cB-6vxzdINA==

Twice Public Safety Minister Bill Blair released a tender seeking a company to manage his proposed Firearm Confiscation Compensation scheme.

Twice the government’s tender ended without a single expression of interest.[ii]

What does it say about Bill Blair’s hairbrained scheme when $78,000,000 can’t buy him a scapegoat?

It says confiscating guns from licenced owners (but not drug dealers and gangs[iii]) is a colossally stupid idea and nobody is willing to take the blame for Bill Blair’s failure.

This scheme comes with such a vile stench that no project management company in Canada (not even SNC-Lavalin or the WE Charity) is willing to grab the massive payoff there for the taking.

This double rejection ought to be a wakeup call for Bill Blair and the entire Trudeau government.

But it won’t be.

They’ll just kick the deadline down the road and pretend they meant to do so all along.

Management Fee Estimates

Public Safety Minister Bill Blair claims paying gun owners for their legally-owned but confiscated firearms will cost between $400 million and $600 million.

A previous Liberal government claimed registering guns would only cost $2 million while the final tally was well over $2 billion.

But, just a moment, let’s take Bill Blair at his word to figure this out.

First, we need a baseline percentage to calculate management fees.

The Trudeau government agreed to pay WE Charity $43.5 million to manage a $912 million program so, for simplicity’s sake, we’ll use this same percentage – 4.77% of the total program cost – to calculate management fees.

Using Bill Blair’s low-ball numbers, the company that manages this program stands to earn between 19 and 28.6 million dollars, yet Bill Blair can’t buy a scapegoat with all that money.

Now let’s use some more realistic numbers to figure out how much money these companies refuse to take to manage Bill Blair’s Firearm Confiscation Compensation scheme.

Based on New Zealand’s failed gun confiscation scheme, The Fraser Institute estimates Canada’s proposed scheme will cost between 1.64 and 4.92 billion taxpayer dollars.[iv]

The company that takes on Bill Blair’s Firearm Confiscation Compensation scheme (and all blame for its ultimate and inevitable failure) stands to earn between 78.2 and 234.7 million dollars.

What kind of world do we live in where $78 million can’t buy Bill Blair a scapegoat?

No Takers

The following project management companies who specialize in delivering these types of programs all refused the Liberal government’s offer to become its whipping boy when its Firearm Confiscation Compensation scheme inevitably fails:

  1. ACF Associates Inc.
  2. Adirondack Information Management Inc., The AIM Group Inc. in Joint Venture
  3. AECOM Canada Ltd.
  4. Babcock Canada Inc.
  5. BMT CANADA LTD.
  6. CGI Information Systems and Management Consultants Inc.
  7. Colliers Project Leaders Inc.
  8. Ernst & Young LLP
  9. IBM Canada Limited/IBM Canada Limitée
  10. Lansdowne Technologies Inc.
  11. NIVA Inc.
  12. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP
  13. Raymond Chabot Grant Thornton Consulting Inc.
  14. Sierra Systems Group Inc.
  15. Tiree Facility Solutions Inc.















 
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Trudeau, blaming Doug Ford for the shooting that killed a 12 year old in Toronto.

Why? Because Doug Ford won't allow Toronto to ban handguns.

This REALLY pisses me off.

The shooting was done with FULL AUTO machine pistols. They have been completely banned in Canada for over 40 years.

And Trudeau is a lying, manipulative, vicious PoS.

Sorry to state the obvious.
A PM that can skate through a blackface scandal and 3 cases of ethics violations probably thinks he is not doing anything wrong.
 

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New documents detail the guns — all illegally obtained — used by Canada's worst mass murderer​


Ryan Tumilty
Publishing date:
Nov 20, 2020 • Last Updated 37 minutes ago • 4 minute read
A briefing note given to the prime minister, obtained through access to information, shows Gabriel Wortman was armed with a semi-automatic weapon similar to the rifles issued to RCMP officers: a Colt Law Enforcement Carbine. Photo by Colt's Manufacturing LLC

OTTAWA – Gabriel Wortman, the Nova Scotia man who murdered 22 people in April, was heavily armed with two semi-automatic rifles, two pistols and special ammunition boxes designed to carry extra bullets when he began his rampage.

Newly obtained documents also reveal all of the weapons were illegally obtained, three of them smuggled across the U.S. border.



The details are contained in a briefing note given to the prime minister just days after the shooting.

The note reveals the full horror of Wortman’s shooting spree which went on for 13 hours, across a wide swath of northern Nova Scotia, ending when he was shot and killed by an RCMP officer at a gas station. Wortman impersonated a RCMP officer throughout the evening, driving in a replica RCMP cruiser and wearing a police uniform.

In addition to weapons they believe he used, Wortman was found with the service pistol of RCMP Const. Heidi Stevenson who he killed in an earlier shootout.

Wortman was killed by another RCMP officer on the morning of April, 19, a full 13 hours after the shooting began. The shooting is the worst mass-shooting in Canadian history.

The briefing note to the prime minister, obtained through access to information, shows Wortman had a “Colt Law Enforcement Carbine,” a semi-automatic weapon similar to the rifles issued to RCMP officers.

He was also carrying a Ruger mini-14, a semi-automatic rifle that was also used during the Montreal massacre. Both weapons were banned by the Liberals in May.



According to the briefing memo, the Colt was sourced to a California gun shop and was illegally smuggled into Canada. The mini-14 was purchased legally in Canada, but it is unlikely it was bought by Wortman who did not have any firearms licence.

Wortman was also carrying two additional pistols; a Glock GmbH semi-automatic pistol and a Ruger P89 semi-automatic pistol, which were both smuggled in from Maine.

Matt Hipwell, president of Wolverine Supplies, a Manitoba firearms store, said three of the weapons Wortman used, the two pistols and the Colt carbine, were restricted firearms at the time of the shooting and depending on the specific characteristics of the weapons they might have been banned entirely in Canada.

As restricted weapons they would have required Wortman to complete a more detailed safety course and a thorough background check. Those weapons are also only allowed for use at target ranges.

Hipwell, a former RCMP officer, said it is clear gun restrictions would not have stopped the shooting.

“He had no intention of following the law, so banning firearms, banning semi automatic rifles and handguns would not have stopped him,” he said. “There are strict storage and transportation regulations that go along with those firearms. So there’s a lot of boxes and regulations in place already that this individual did not check.”
A photograph of Kristen Beaton, who was expecting her third child and was killed during a mass shooting, is seen at a makeshift memorial in Debert, Nova Scotia, April 23, 2020. Photo by Tim Krochak/Reuters

The mini-14 was not a restricted weapon at the time of the shooting, but would still have required a firearms licence. The Liberal changes in May have since
banned the weapon, which was also used at the École Polytechnique shooting in 1989.

Hipwell said while the rifle is used internationally by some police agencies, for most Canadian owners it is a hunting rifle.
He said the Colt carbine rifle would have given Wortman the same firepower as RCMP officers, but officers generally don’t use the rifle in all but the worst situations.

In addition to the Colt, Wortman’s other assault rifle and the two pistols would have given him more firepower than the officers he encountered.
The briefing memo also mentions “over capacity ammunition boxes,” sourced outside of Canada. Hipwell said that likely means they were equipped with magazines allowing Wortman to fire many more bullets than he normally would have been able to.

In Canada, the pistols would have been limited to 10 bullets, but American versions could carry as many as 18. The rifles would be legally limited to five shots in Canada, but Wortman would have been able to fire many more.​

In a statement in July after search warrant documents were released, the RCMP said the investigation had so far revealed that Wortman made multiple trips to Maine to visit friends.

“Investigators have confirmed that the gunman did communicate with these individuals frequently and visited them on a frequent basis. The full nature and extent of those relationships remain under investigation and as such, no additional information will be provided at this time,” read the force’s statement.
Banning firearms, banning semi automatic rifles and handguns would not have stopped him
The search warrant documents also indicated that Wortman was engaged in drug and gun smuggling, but the RCMP cautioned in their statement that only one person of the more than 700 they had interviewed provided that information.

While gun restrictions are much more lax in the United States, all states require that someone be a resident of the state they are in to purchase weapons and people simply visiting are not permitted to buy guns.

The RCMP declined to say whether they were working with U.S. law enforcement. After initially resisting the effort, the federal government called for a public inquiry into the shooting. The force said they will release any additional information there.

“The RCMP recognizes the need to provide the factual account of what transpired this past April. With the public inquiry now ongoing, the most appropriate and unbiased opportunity to do so is with our full participation in the inquiry,” said Sgt. Andrew Joyce with the Nova Scotia RCMP.

“The inquiry is underway and RCMP is fully cooperating. The RCMP will respectfully refrain from further commenting on these matters outside of the inquiry.”

 

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Once again, nobody bids on federal firearms buyback program​

Zac Kurylyk

November 12, 2020

Can you hear it—that womp-womp, sad horn sound? Once again, the federal firearms buyback program apparently failed to attract any bidders; no private company wants to design and manage the program, it seems. The government’s tender website still doesn’t list any interested suppliers, after the feds listed the opportunity a second time.


In May, the Liberal government announced it was banning a wide range of firearms, in the wake of the Portapique arson/shooting massacre. The list included sporting, tactical and hunting models. The government said the firearms were now prohibited, with a plan for the government to buy them off owners, and destroy them.


To accomplish that, the feds issued a tender through the BuyAndSell.gc.ca website, looking for a private partner to design, and possibly operate, the buyback program. The original tender appeared in early August, with no takers. A second tender went out in mid-October, with the same goal. Now, that one’s expired too, with no interested supplier listed. Maybe there’s something going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about, maybe not. On the surface, though, it seems the feds are back to the drawing board.


The question now is, what is the federal government’s next move? The most recent tender description said the government wanted the buyback program plans completed by March 31, 2021. Now, it’s been three months since the first tender went out, and it seems the feds can’t get any interested takers.


Possible options​


There are at least three choices ahead. First, the government could post the tender again, perhaps with a modified timeline or some other changes. Maybe a company would bite this time.


Second, the federal government could design its own program—hand it off to some bureaucrats, and see what they come up with.


Third, the government could scrap the idea of a buyback, and go straight to confiscation with no compensation. This third option is probably what Canadian firearms owners are most concerned about. It’s doubtful any compensation plan would every pay fair market value for a kitted-out tactical rifle. However, some sort of remuneration would be preferable to none, for many owners.


Stay tuned on this one, as we’ll likely see some sort of government announcement on the process in coming weeks.


 

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RED ALERT: National Police Federation Opposes Liberal Gun Ban

The National Police Federation issues position statement opposing May 1 gun ban​

November 23, 2020

The National Police Federation is the sole, certified bargaining agent for the RCMP, representing over 20,000 members nation-wide. The National Police Federation is the largest Police Association in Canada and the second largest in North America. Learn more about their association at npf-fpn.com.

READ THEIR PRESS RELEASE HERE

“Costly and current legislation, such as the Order in Council prohibiting various firearms and the proposed 'buy-back' program by the federal government targeted at legal firearm owners, does not address these current and emerging themes or urgent threats to public safety.

It also does not address:

• criminal activity,
• illegal firearms proliferation,
• gang crime,
• illegal guns crossing the border or
• the criminal use of firearms.

In fact, it diverts extremely important personnel, resources, and funding away from addressing the more immediate and growing threat of criminal use of illegal firearms."


RED ALERT: National Police Federation Opposes Liberal Gun Ban
READ THEIR POSITION STATEMENT HERE

Peter Merrifield, Vice President of the National Police Federation had this to say to CCFR members:

“In April I dealt with the widowed husband and two young children of one of my members who was murdered along with 21 other innocent people by a criminal with illegal firearms. When the ban was announced in May, I was the first person to get a meeting with the Minister of Public Safety face to face in June to discuss concerns on the ban and the alternatives that focused on criminals and not citizens. By July and August I was being filmed for documentaries and for CCFR’s TV segments educating the public on the misdirection of the ban and its futility in relation to public safety. Also in August we commissioned the research for a Policy Position paper on the issue. This week I am engaged in virtual lobby sessions with 10 key Members of Parliament. In December or January I’ll be appearing before the Parliamentary Public Safety Committee. As the current government failed to provide any advanced notice of their OIC, I like many citizens am working to educate the public, parliamentarians and undo a pointless ban that provides zero enhancement to public safety. I think adding the voices of 20,000 frontline police officers may help the cause.”
 
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If someone is pulled over for drinking and driving, and the officer tells them to drive their vehicle 100 feet down the road and park it on a side street....is the driver drunk? Nope.
These banned firearms are still in the possession of their law abiding owners. This tells me that the owners never posed a risk to public safetly, and they still don't.
 
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