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Fairly recently many, many people said really stupid things. We could accept them, or think.
 

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Sigh.
Read, and learn
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2...enty-six-years-ago-the-guns-of-the-l-a-riots/
The same thing happened at Brinks, which was in the area where the worst of the riots went on. They put 4 or 5 guys on the roof with shotguns, who prevented rioters climbing the fence around the building....no damage.

According to what I've read, the store owners were defending against looting civilian gun owners who were already shooting in the street. Whether the looting was stopped or started, or both, by civilian gun owners is a question.

The photo of a civilian holding a gun doesn't explain anything. If no context is given it has no particular value. Just like the photo of a locomotive.
 

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LOL

For those people who say there is never a need for a civilian to own a semi-auto military style weapon; Korean-American store owner holds Daewoo K1 Rifle on top of building during the 1992 LA Riots
How many rounds did he fire?
 

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Sigh.
Read, and learn
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2...enty-six-years-ago-the-guns-of-the-l-a-riots/
The same thing happened at Brinks, which was in the area where the worst of the riots went on. They put 4 or 5 guys on the roof with shotguns, who prevented rioters climbing the fence around the building....no damage.
So, you seem to be saying that the need for civilian ownership of clip-fed semi-autos is proven by the fact that shotguns work just as well for looter control.

That about right?

Have we been having a brew or two on Friday evening?
 

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So, you seem to be saying that the need for civilian ownership of clip-fed semi-autos is proven by the fact that shotguns work just as well for looter control.

That about right?

Have we been having a brew or two on Friday evening?


Well, my first love was a shotgun...... (keep it clean, now)........and yes, it would serve, at least at Brinks..



But the tactical situations in this case were different. You had multiple guards that had a fence between them and the threat. I'm not sure how many people are up there with this guy, but I do know there are no fences for the looters to climb.........
 

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Well, my first love was a shotgun...... (keep it clean, now)........and yes, it would serve, at least at Brinks..
But the tactical situations in this case were different. You had multiple guards that had a fence between them and the threat. I'm not sure how many people are up there with this guy, but I do know there are no fences for the looters to climb.........
How many rounds did your Korean hero fire?

I hope you're beginning to come around to the notion that if he fired less than six, any old fixed-magazine semi, or a lever-action, woulda done the job just as well.

An SKS holds ten, and reloads almost as fast as a semi-auto.

An M-1 Garand holds eight, and I'd like to see the looter who's gonna charge a Garand after it tears up his buddy.
 

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How many rounds did your Korean hero fire?

I hope you're beginning to come around to the notion that if he fired less than six, any old fixed-magazine semi, or a lever-action, woulda done the job just as well.

An SKS holds ten, and reloads almost as fast as a semi-auto.

An M-1 Garand holds eight, and I'd like to see the looter who's gonna charge a Garand after it tears up his buddy.


Yep. Either a Garand or an SKS would have served, in their original state.


But I'm in Canada..........the SKS would have had to have been pinned to 5 rounds, rendered difficult to use stripper clips even.........and finding clips for the Garand (not magazines) would not be easy. The Garand has an exception from the 5 round rule.


BTW, the gov't of Canada is now considering banning both as semi-auto military firearms.
 

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Yep. Either a Garand or an SKS would have served, in their original state.
But I'm in Canada..........the SKS would have had to have been pinned to 5 rounds, rendered difficult to use stripper clips even.........and finding clips for the Garand (not magazines) would not be easy. The Garand has an exception from the 5 round rule.
BTW, the gov't of Canada is now considering banning both as semi-auto military firearms.
I was firing my .45-70 lever-action at the range last Sunday.

Folks seemed fairly impressed. Even the ones with AR-15s.

Funny how you never quite got around to answering the fockin' question, ain't it?
 

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I was firing my .45-70 lever-action at the range last Sunday.

Folks seemed fairly impressed. Even the ones with AR-15s.

Funny how you never quite got around to answering the fockin' question, ain't it?


Obviously, I have no idea how many rounds, if any, he fired. That is obvious, as I wasn't there. If you want an answer, it is best not to ask questions that are impossible to answer,


And yeah, a friend had a .444 Marlin, and I was impressed.
 

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Trudeau government will consider handgun ban if re-elected



It’s too late to consider a handgun ban before the 2019 federal election this fall, but the Trudeau government will explore it if re-elected.


Bill Blair, Border Security and Organized Crime Reduction Minister, refused to tell the Senate Committee on National Security and Defence if a government-initiated report on the effects of a handgun ban would be finished by the time of the election.


“Canadians expect us to take the time to do it right and I’ve been doing my very best to take that time,” Blair said.
He also inferred that further discussion on a handgun ban may have to wait until after the election this fall.



The committee was discussing the proposed Bill C-71, which amends several of the firearms rules in Canada. Some on the committee wanted to see the report before C-71 becomes law.


One senator, Liberal-appointee Marilou McPhedran, questioned Blair on waiting until after the election to deal with the report on the assumption that the Liberals will win.


“It’s not an assumption, it’s an intent,” he answered.


Bill C-71 proposes a number of changes new restrictions to the purchase of firearms and makes changes to the enforcement of current firearms laws and regulations — but comes short of any form of firearm ban.


Blair had promised a report on the effects of a handgun ban, and public consultations, by the end of 2018. Four months into 2019 the report has yet to be completed.


The Senate Committee on National Security and Defence, still discussing C-71, struck down a proposal Monday to put a handgun ban into to the bill.


McPhedran attempted to amend Bill C-71 to include a handgun ban, but that amendment failed 2-6 with three abstentions.
A spokesperson for Bill Blair said that his office plans on releasing the Border Security and Organized Crime Reduction report in “early 2019.”


https://tnc.news/2019/04/12/trudeau...5nKSSmBMZzW17eLRxMuGQaJgFej25DrSqlHJ3EvXM1Jso
 

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I think there's a lot of support for a hand gun ban.

I like the idea of having to store your hand gun at a range or police station.
 

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Stopping hearts kill people

With a gun you can stop many hearts all at once, and from a distance - which is demonstrated almost daily. Guns have no purpose other than to kill, to threaten with death or for sport. Anything that can be done to restrict their use to sport and the killing of animals - for food or in defense - improves public safety.