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I think Captain James Cook must be considered one of the greatest men in history. His three voyages of exploration and discovery expanded human knowledge of geography, biology, botany, astronomy, cartography, and navigation. His seamanship, surveying, physical courage and leadership were impressive. However, what distinguishes Cook from other great persons in history is his pursuit of knowledge for knowlege's sake.

He discovered the east coast of Australia and confirmed it was a continent. He discovered the Hawaiian Islands. He mapped the Northwest coast of North America. He mapped the mouth of the St. Lawrence River and the entire coast of Newfoundland. I've been to Cook Inlet in Alaska, the Cook Islands in the South Pacific, and to Kealakekua Bay on the Big Island of Hawaii where he died. There is even a hotel in Anchorage named for him.

The command module of Apollo 15 was named after Cook's ship the HMS Endeavour, and so was the Space Shuttle Endeavor. Even one of the craters on the moon is named after Captain Cook...as is a town in Hawaii.

Captain Cook was so admired by Benjamin Franklin that American naval commanders during the Revolutionary War were ordered to grant Captain Cook, his ship and crew safe passage through all waters. Captain Cook was not only a British hero...he was a treasure for all mankind. Moreover, he reflects in many ways the high tide mark of Western Civilization.
 

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Fidel Castro, Che Guevara

Every left-wing President of Latin America, particularly Hugo Chavez and Evo Morales
 

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I think Captain James Cook must be considered one of the greatest men in history. His three voyages of exploration and discovery expanded human knowledge of geography, biology, botany, astronomy, cartography, and navigation. His seamanship, surveying, physical courage and leadership were impressive. However, what distinguishes Cook from other great persons in history is his pursuit of knowledge for knowlege's sake.

He discovered the east coast of Australia and confirmed it was a continent. He discovered the Hawaiian Islands. He mapped the Northwest coast of North America. He mapped the mouth of the St. Lawrence River and the entire coast of Newfoundland. I've been to Cook Inlet in Alaska, the Cook Islands in the South Pacific, and to Kealakekua Bay on the Big Island of Hawaii where he died. There is even a hotel in Anchorage named for him.

The command module of Apollo 15 was named after Cook's ship the HMS Endeavour, and so was the Space Shuttle Endeavor. Even one of the craters on the moon is named after Captain Cook...as is a town in Hawaii.

Captain Cook was so admired by Benjamin Franklin that American naval commanders during the Revolutionary War were ordered to grant Captain Cook, his ship and crew safe passage through all waters. Captain Cook was not only a British hero...he was a treasure for all mankind. Moreover, he reflects in many ways the high tide mark of Western Civilization.

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BaalsTears

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Is that the Chinese fellow that supposedly made it to Africa?
Yes. There were seven great voyages of the Ming Fleet, some of which reached East Africa. If the Ming hadn't decided to burn Zheng He's logs in order to devote their assets toward chasing Mongols all over Central Asia world history would probably have turned out differently. The Ming didn't realize the Europeans would show up in Guangdong ninety years after the last voyage of Zheng He.



Great man who weakened the Roman Republic and sowed the seeds for the rise of despotism imo.


He who raises his hand in actual civil war against his countrymen and women is a scoundrel. There were a lot of scoundrels in Rome.
 

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I think Captain James Cook must be considered one of the greatest men in history. His three voyages of exploration and discovery expanded human knowledge of geography, biology, botany, astronomy, cartography, and navigation. His seamanship, surveying, physical courage and leadership were impressive. However, what distinguishes Cook from other great persons in history is his pursuit of knowledge for knowlege's sake.

He discovered the east coast of Australia and confirmed it was a continent. He discovered the Hawaiian Islands. He mapped the Northwest coast of North America. He mapped the mouth of the St. Lawrence River and the entire coast of Newfoundland. I've been to Cook Inlet in Alaska, the Cook Islands in the South Pacific, and to Kealakekua Bay on the Big Island of Hawaii where he died. There is even a hotel in Anchorage named for him.

The command module of Apollo 15 was named after Cook's ship the HMS Endeavour, and so was the Space Shuttle Endeavor. Even one of the craters on the moon is named after Captain Cook...as is a town in Hawaii.

Captain Cook was so admired by Benjamin Franklin that American naval commanders during the Revolutionary War were ordered to grant Captain Cook, his ship and crew safe passage through all waters. Captain Cook was not only a British hero...he was a treasure for all mankind. Moreover, he reflects in many ways the high tide mark of Western Civilization.

You might want to rethink that. The west coast of North America and across the Pacific was well known long before Cook or even Columbus for that matter even came here. The only ones not in the loop were a few Europeans.
 

BaalsTears

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You might want to rethink that. The west coast of North America and across the Pacific was well known long before Cook or even Columbus for that matter even came here. The only ones not in the loop were a few Europeans.
Maybe so. While Cook missed the Strait of Juan de Fuca, he did map BC and Alaska up to the Bering Strait.

Cook also mentored George Vancouver after whom the City and Island are named. But then again he also mentored William Bligh of Mutiny on the Bounty fame. Haha.
 

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Maybe so. While Cook missed the Strait of Juan de Fuca, he did map BC and Alaska up to the Bering Strait.

Cook also mentored George Vancouver after whom the City and Island are named. But then again he also mentored William Bligh of Mutiny on the Bounty fame. Haha.

All of them were centuries late in mapping the coast. The Haida were making trips to California long before any Europeans "discovered" the west coast. BTW the Haida were good enough sailors that they didn't need maps.
 

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Sir. John A MacDonald, John Diefenbaker, Harper..

When it comes to conservative PMs I think Borden and Mulroney are easily more important than Diefenbaker. As for Harper way too early to tell.

Also, "great" doesn't necessarily just mean 'good.' It can just mean very influential in one way or another. When it comes to the 20th century Id put Lenin and Hitler on the list. They wound up doing things that totally changed the 20th century.

Martin Luther, Napoleon, Newton, Machiavelli, Adam Smith, Ghengis Khan, Augustus, Jesus, Muhammed, Einstein....

There are many good and bad.
 

BaalsTears

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All of them were centuries late in mapping the coast. The Haida were making trips to California long before any Europeans "discovered" the west coast. BTW the Haida were good enough sailors that they didn't need maps.
The Haida did know the BC coast. However, if the Haida didn't make maps they had no way of communicating their knowledge to others. Captain Cook's maps were used into the mid-twentieth century because he communicated his discoveries through cartography.

Btw, is there a record of the Haida travelling to California?
 

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Yes. There were seven great voyages of the Ming Fleet, some of which reached East Africa. If the Ming hadn't decided to burn Zheng He's logs in order to devote their assets toward chasing Mongols all over Central Asia world history would probably have turned out differently. The Ming didn't realize the Europeans would show up in Guangdong ninety years after the last voyage of Zheng He.




Great man who weakened the Roman Republic and sowed the seeds for the rise of despotism imo.



He who raises his hand in actual civil war against his countrymen and women is a scoundrel. There were a lot of scoundrels in Rome.

Yet no evidence exists that he reached Africa. Researchers have checked and so far Nada.
 

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I think Captain James Cook must be considered one of the greatest men in history. His three voyages of exploration and discovery expanded human knowledge of geography, biology, botany, astronomy, cartography, and navigation. His seamanship, surveying, physical courage and leadership were impressive. However, what distinguishes Cook from other great persons in history is his pursuit of knowledge for knowlege's sake.

He discovered the east coast of Australia and confirmed it was a continent. He discovered the Hawaiian Islands. He mapped the Northwest coast of North America. He mapped the mouth of the St. Lawrence River and the entire coast of Newfoundland. I've been to Cook Inlet in Alaska, the Cook Islands in the South Pacific, and to Kealakekua Bay on the Big Island of Hawaii where he died. There is even a hotel in Anchorage named for him.

The command module of Apollo 15 was named after Cook's ship the HMS Endeavour, and so was the Space Shuttle Endeavor. Even one of the craters on the moon is named after Captain Cook...as is a town in Hawaii.

Captain Cook was so admired by Benjamin Franklin that American naval commanders during the Revolutionary War were ordered to grant Captain Cook, his ship and crew safe passage through all waters. Captain Cook was not only a British hero...he was a treasure for all mankind. Moreover, he reflects in many ways the high tide mark of Western Civilization.

Perhaps even more accomplished than Chris, who I believe took syphillus back to Spain. (of course he probably said it was his crew) :lol:

When it comes to conservative PMs I think Borden and Mulroney are easily more important than Diefenbaker. As for Harper way too early to tell.

Also, "great" doesn't necessarily just mean 'good.' It can just mean very influential in one way or another. When it comes to the 20th century Id put Lenin and Hitler on the list. They wound up doing things that totally changed the 20th century.

Martin Luther, Napoleon, Newton, Machiavelli, Adam Smith, Ghengis Khan, Augustus, Jesus, Muhammed, Einstein....

There are many good and bad.

Mulroney?????????????????? The most famous thing he did was pinched the light bulbs and door knobs from Sussex Dr. when he left. Diefenbaker was a diplomat and a gentleman by comparison.