Gravitational waves finally detected in massive breakthrough Einstein predicted a cen

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yeah, I will go ahead, and don't pretend what I am thinking, worry about what your own brain is doing,
and try to fix those problems, that should take a lifetime.
I fixed denial a long time ago, I'm way ahead already and you are somewhere in the dust. No much I can do about that, least of all view it as a problem.

Explain the existence of anything without invoking the name of some supernatural creator.
How about I explain the old earth creation theme to you from Ge:1 instead? The term 'void' was the only reference from the Bible. How about you explain the big bangs as being something that it happening as something from nothing. You are the one believing in 'magic' rather than me.

Ther's only one uni verse, the ancients worked on the theory for ages and ages, start with one they invented as to mean all every
They worked on a list of questions for that long, we have yet to supply reasonable answers to those ancient questions.
 

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Gravity Waves found? 14 Years NOTHING, but "find" it on 100-year Einstein publishing anniversary

Gravity Waves discovered? NOPE, Simplex Electromagnetic Phase Rarefaction/Retardation

"The LIGO detectors are in Livingston, Louisiana, and Hanford, Washington. Each one consists of a giant L-shaped structure with arms 2.5 miles (4 kilometers) long....The effect LIGO observed last September works out to a shift of a millionth of a millionth of a millionth of a meter — about one one-thousandth the diameter of a proton, project team members said."
 

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I think it is 'cool' because 100 years ago a man with nothing more than his brain and a chalk board was able to envision something like this.

Dear, you have to look back far far deeper than 100 years. We have lost or forgotten more grander knowledge than we have compiled today.
 

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Dear, you have to look back far far deeper than 100 years. We have lost or forgotten more grander knowledge than we have compiled today.


That's a very difficult truth to convey in any conversation. It's invariably met with denile and scorn but all over the planet the remains of engineering point to the reality of what you said.
 

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THE RISE AND FALL OF BLACK HOLES AND BIG BANGS

Published on April 30, 2014
Written by Stephen J. Crothers
Whenever you hear cosmologists talk of a black hole they never tell you what type of black hole they allege in what type of big bang universe they allege. It is always reported something like this: there is a black hole here or there and the Universe is expanding. More often than not the black hole is mentioned without any reference to a big bang expanding universe, which is simply assumed as a canvas onto which their black holes are painted. The vagueness of all this is amplified when you learn that there are actually four alleged types of black hole universes and that there are three alleged types of big bang universes.
What are the alleged types of black hole universes you ask? Let’s list them.
(1) Non-rotating, charge neutral
(2) Non-rotating and charged
(3) Rotating, charge neutral
(4) Rotating and charged.
What are the alleged types of big bang universes you ask? They depend on the type of constant spacetime curvature they have, usually denoted by the letter k; the k-curvature. Let’s list them too.
(1) Spatially infinite (k = -1, negatively curved spacetime)
(2) Spatially infinite (k = 0, flat spacetime)
(3) Spatially finite (k = 1, positively curved spacetime).
Each type of black hole universe is no less a universe than each type of big bang universe because each and every black hole alleged is a solution to a completely different set of Einstein’s gravitational field equations. As such black hole universes and big bang universes are all independent of one another. To see why this is so we need only examine the generic defining characteristics of black hole universes and big bang universes and then compare them to one another.
All alleged black hole universes:
(1) Are spatially infinite
(2) Are eternal
(3) Contain only one mass
(4) Are not expanding
(5) And are either asymptotically flat or asymptotically curved.
All alleged big bang universes:
(1) Are either spatially finite (k = 1) or spatially infinite (k = 0 and k = -1)
(2) Are of finite age (~13.8 billion years)
(3) Contain radiation and many masses
(4) Are expanding
(5) And are not asymptotically anything.
Note also that none of the alleged black hole universes possesses any big bang k-curvature.
It is immediately apparent that none of the foregoing defining characteristics of black hole universes are compatible with those of the big bang universes. Consequently black holes and big bangs are mutually exclusive. Nonetheless cosmologists thoughtlessly blend them to obtain billions upon billions of black holes in some unspecified big bang universe that is of finite age.
That a black hole universe is a universe is clear from the fact that it is either asymptotically flat or asymptotically curved. There is no bound on asymptotic, for otherwise it would not be asymptotic, and so there is no bound on the extent of the spacetime of any black hole. Thus the black hole universe is spatially infinite. Let’s consider just two alleged black holes. Each black hole disturbs the asymptotic character of the spacetime of the other black hole by its presence, no matter how far away they might be supposed from one another, and thereby violates this defining feature of a black hole. Moreover, all alleged black holes are said to have an infinite spacetime curvature at their so-called ‘singularity’. Consequently each of the two black holes under consideration encounters an infinite spacetime curvature at the singularity of the other, and that is a far cry from being asymptotically anything. It’s clear that a black hole universe can’t coexist with any other black hole universe or even with a duplicate of itself. Nor can it exist inside some big bang universe. Similarly no big bang universe can coexist with any black hole universe, with any other big bang universe, or with itself. Now consider the 2.5 million black holes that NASA scientists [1] have allegedly found with their WISE survey! Each of these alleged black holes encounters 2, 499, 999 ‘infinite’ curvatures around it, and that’s a long way from being asymptotically anything. What about the cosmologists’ claim that ‘almost’ every galaxy harbours a supermassive black hole at its centre? How many galaxies are there?
Now try placing any of the black hole universes, which are all eternal, inside any of the big bang universes, all of which are allegedly ~13.8 billion years old. They don’t fit! What about sticking in any of the black hole universes, all of which are spatially infinite, inside the spatially finite type of big bang universe? They don’t fit either. You can try fitting any of the other defining properties of black hole universes with the defining properties of the big bang universes. You will find that none of them fit, as the comparative list above succinctly reveals.
Every black hole is, on the one hand, alleged to have an escape velocity and this escape velocity is greater than or equal to the speed of light in vacuum, usually denoted by the letter c. For instance,
black hole A region of spacetime from which the escape velocity exceeds the velocity of light.” [2]
According to the theory of relativity, nothing can travel faster than light. Thus, if light cannot escape, neither can anything else. Everything is dragged back by the gravitational field. So one has a set of events, a region of space-time from which it is not possible to escape to reach a distant observer. Its boundary is called the event horizon. It coincides with the paths of the light rays that just fail to escape from the black hole.” [3]
The escape velocity of a body is the velocity that another body must initially have in order to escape from the gravitational interaction force produced by them upon one another. A rocket, for instance, must attain the escape velocity of Earth to escape from Earth. Note that escape velocity does not imply that things can’t leave, only that things can’t escape unless propelled at or greater than the escape velocity. If you throw a ball into the air, did it leave the surface of the Earth? Certainly! Did it escape from the Earth? No; it falls back to ground.
Now, on the other hand, it is also claimed that nothing can even leave the event horizon of a black hole, let alone escape. Things can only go into a black hole but nothing can even leave or emerge, not even light. This property is often referred to by cosmologists as a ‘one-way membrane’ at the event horizon.
I had already discussed with Roger Penrose the idea of defining a black hole as a set of events from which it is not possible to escape to a large distance. It means that the boundary of the black hole, the event horizon, is formed by rays of light that just fail to get away from the black hole. Instead, they stay forever hovering on the edge of the black hole.” [4]
Thus, Hawking [4] tells us that nothing can even leave the event horizon, because even light hovers at the event horizon, “forever”.
Professor Bland-Hawthorn [5] of the University of Sydney alleges a particularly curious escape velocity.
A black hole is, ah, a massive object, and it’s something which is so massive that light can’t even escape. … some objects are so massive that the escape speed is basically the speed of light and therefore not even light escapes. … so black holes themselves are, are basically inert, massive and nothing escapes.” [5]
Light travels at the speed of light, and according to Bland-Hawthorn the escape speed is the speed of light, from which he concludes that light can’t escape. Well, if the escape speed is the speed of light and light travels at the speed of light, then light not only leaves, it also certainly escapes.
Since all black holes are alleged to have an escape velocity and since nothing can even leave black holes, the cosmologists thoughtlessly claim that their black holes have and do no have an escape velocity simultaneously; which is quite impossible.
The Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) is claimed by cosmologists to be the afterglow of some big bang, the type of which they never say. Various atmospheric balloons and rockets, and several satellites, have allegedly measured the temperature of this afterglow, the so-called mean temperature of the Universe or the monopole signal, and tiny variations therein called anisotropies. Yet the monopole signal has never been detected outside the influence of Earth. The Cosmic Background Explorer (COBE) satellite was only orbiting Earth at an altitude of about 950 km. The Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) and the Planck spacecraft were located at the Second Lagrange point, L2, which is some 1.5 million km from Earth, on Earth’s far side from the Sun.

COBE carried two instruments: (a) the Far Infrared Absolute Spectrophotometer (FIRAS), and (2) the Differential Microwave Radiometers (DMR). FIRAS allegedly measured the monopole signal of the CMB and DMR the so-called anisotropies in the CMB. WMAP was a differential instrument and so was incapable of detecting a monopole signal – it could only address anisotropies. The Planck spacecraft carried two instruments: (1) the Low Frequency Instrument (LFI), and (2) the High Frequency Instrument (HFI). Also aboard Planck were two 4 Kelvin blackbody loads for the LFI to compare to. Although the Planck LFI was able to make both absolute and differential measurements, the Planck team has never reported detection of a monopole signal at L2. Thus, no monopole signal has ever been found beyond the influence of Earth.
Did any of these instruments actually detect microwaves from the Cosmos? If you put a glass of water in a microwave oven and turn it on, does the water reflect or absorb the microwaves? A microwave oven emits microwaves – that’s why it’s called a microwave oven. The water placed inside it gets hot, and if left there long enough, vaporises. The same happens to a block of ice. Submariners also know that water absorbs microwaves. Radio communications by microwaves can’t be used for submarines when under water because the oceans and seas completely absorb them rapidly over a very short distance. Now it is well known from experiments that anything that absorbs also emits in the same frequencies, and so that which absorbs microwaves also emits microwaves. Thus water also emits microwaves in all its phases (solid, liquid, gas). About 70% of the surface of the Earth is covered by water, and there is water in the atmosphere. The atmosphere scatters radiation and microwaves are radiation. COBE-FIRAS carried a radiation shield, but this shield could not block microwaves from Earth because it was not designed for microwaves. All detections of the monopole signal have been from water on Earth, not from the Cosmos. All the alleged anisotropies are nothing but data-processing artefacts due to attempts to remove the microwave radiation from the foreground of the Milky Way, present in the microwave images. The alleged anisotropies are some 1 million times weaker than the monopole signal and some 1000 times weaker than the microwave noise due to the Milky Way. It is simply impossible for the spaTHE RISE AND FALL OF BLACK HOLES AND BIG BANGS - Principia Scientific Intl

"This esplains that, no it isn't too long"
 

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A couple of 'questions' spring to mind. If a black hole can be created by a single massive star exploding what would have been left behind when the (theoretical) big bang happened 13.8B years ago? It would be somewhat larger and be at the 'center' of the universe.

Black holes are promoted as being hot how would the ever be able to 'merge' when hot objects tend to repel away from each other and that mat explain why the universe is expanding, there are more starts being created than there are stars that are blowing up.

I might have some more to add after I sleep on the info.
 

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Here is my reply,

"Dear Prof. Saller, Please advise as to why my paper has been declined. Yours faithfully, Stephen J. Crothers." So despite the Editorial Board of the IJTP having found no technical errors in my two papers (they must have read them to know what's in them) they refused to publish them, refused to send them to the nominated referees (for whom they called in the first place), refused to discuss the contents of the papers, and failed to reply to my request for a reason for their rejection of my papers. If one examines the list of people on the Editorial Board of the IJTP one notices that there are a number of "supermassive" black holers and big bangers there - res ipsa loquitur. Here is the correspondence.
Now Bruhn,'t Hooft, MacCallum, Krasinski, Kerr and various other black holers and big bangers have not only taken umbrage at my work but also at my style of exposition. Apparently they think me offensive in my manner and maintain that I should let them walk all over me and insult me as they please, without any retaliation. An ardent black holer, claiming to be a qualified scientist, recently called me, in writing, in a Web physics forum, "a ****ing moron", and "a notorious crank". Other black holers, including some professors of physics (e.g. Krasinski), have called me other, but not too dissimilar, things, and R. Kerr is not averse to referring to me with four-letter words. Not very gentlemanly, and hardly scientific, but the black holers and big bangers evidently think this scientific method, at least when dealing with people who question their arguments or expose their mistakes, and they get rather puritanical and self-righteous when given a dose of their own foul medicine, which I am apt to dispense, without compunction. Krasinski even told a third party that I must not be believed because I am a "maniac" who infected his computer with viruses I have hidden away in the code for my webpages, to wreak revenge upon black holers and big bangers. What an idiot. Well, I'm a vulgar working class man who is quite content with his working class vulgarity. But me'thinks that the real problem is that I have exposed the black holers and big bangers to be a rather incompetent lot, given to the methods of organised crime in order to protect their interests, particularly of the pecuniary kind, and they resent a vulgar working man such as I, who does mathematical physics as a hobby, in some of his spare time, revealing that they are not all that good at doing sums after all, and that they have built their reputations, egos and their pay-packets on something other than science, which is all now crashing down upon their empty and vainglorious heads. But they really have nobody to blame but themselves for it is they who have made serious mistakes in elementary geometry. Someone said that universities are sheltered workshops for those who are incapable of holding down a real job - I suspect that that Someone is dead right, if black holers and big bangers are anything to go by. They wouldn't work in an iron lung.
Stephen J. Crothers

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'Oh okay', not simple enough. lol Give me a few minutes.

Here is my reply,

"Dear Prof. Saller, Please advise as to why my paper has been declined. Yours faithfully, Stephen J. Crothers." So despite the Editorial Board of the IJTP having found no technical errors in my two papers (they must have read them to know what's in them) they refused to publish them, refused to send them to the nominated referees (for whom they called in the first place), refused to discuss the contents of the papers, and failed to reply to my request for a reason for their rejection of my papers. If one examines the list of people on the Editorial Board of the IJTP one notices that there are a number of "supermassive" black holers and big bangers there - res ipsa loquitur. Here is the correspondence.
Now Bruhn,'t Hooft, MacCallum, Krasinski, Kerr and various other black holers and big bangers have not only taken umbrage at my work but also at my style of exposition. Apparently they think me offensive in my manner and maintain that I should let them walk all over me and insult me as they please, without any retaliation. An ardent black holer, claiming to be a qualified scientist, recently called me, in writing, in a Web physics forum, "a ****ing moron", and "a notorious crank". Other black holers, including some professors of physics (e.g. Krasinski), have called me other, but not too dissimilar, things, and R. Kerr is not averse to referring to me with four-letter words. Not very gentlemanly, and hardly scientific, but the black holers and big bangers evidently think this scientific method, at least when dealing with people who question their arguments or expose their mistakes, and they get rather puritanical and self-righteous when given a dose of their own foul medicine, which I am apt to dispense, without compunction. Krasinski even told a third party that I must not be believed because I am a "maniac" who infected his computer with viruses I have hidden away in the code for my webpages, to wreak revenge upon black holers and big bangers. What an idiot. Well, I'm a vulgar working class man who is quite content with his working class vulgarity. But me'thinks that the real problem is that I have exposed the black holers and big bangers to be a rather incompetent lot, given to the methods of organised crime in order to protect their interests, particularly of the pecuniary kind, and they resent a vulgar working man such as I, who does mathematical physics as a hobby, in some of his spare time, revealing that they are not all that good at doing sums after all, and that they have built their reputations, egos and their pay-packets on something other than science, which is all now crashing down upon their empty and vainglorious heads. But they really have nobody to blame but themselves for it is they who have made serious mistakes in elementary geometry. Someone said that universities are sheltered workshops for those who are incapable of holding down a real job - I suspect that that Someone is dead right, if black holers and big bangers are anything to go by. They wouldn't work in an iron lung.
Stephen J. Crothers

Letters from a Black Hole
Oh, okay.