Global Capitalism; Greatest Scam in History

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Yes, because your post is factually incorrect in every aspect. State Socialism aka. Communism has a far far worse record re. pollution and destruction of the environment. Of course, you would have to actually read to discover that. When the USSR collapsed the world was horrified to see how they stored industrial waste, including nuclear waste. Only recently has China started to clean its act up.

The 'records' are written as a summation during a time sanctions were in place. Capitalism is never stress tested under harsh conditions because it is the poor that feel them first and the elite are safe until 90% of the total population has died. If they were naturally inferior they would fail without the sanctions.
Would you like a list of the pollution left behind as the EU Royals roamed around the rest of the world. Slaves or the grave was the usual fate of anybody they came across, intentional in all parts.



In fact although capitalism is far from perfect, corporations tend to continue to refine their processes not because they are virtue signalling faux SJW like yourself but because profits are greater the less water, electricity etc. used.

Corporations were at the mercy of the Royals before the Magna Carta. From that time on 'cousins' and 'merchants' were off limits as far as wanton massacres went. Court first and the BAR serves the Bankers.
Consumers were not given any protection and there have been no updates to that since then then. Consumers would have to have a similar treaty before we received 'quality goods' with no extra handling fees.



Profits are a good thing. The number of people living below the poverty line today is a smaller % than at any timein history - except for self proclaimed socialist paradises such as PDRNK, Venezuela,and of course most of the Theocratic dictatorships.

You are missing a link to the data.

You are also comparing a country's performance while they are under siege while capitalism is judged when 95% of the population is employed and no siege is being experienced. Under those conditions 15% could be working and the 85% could be world travelers if that is what they wanted to do with their 'spare time'.



In spite of the bs from countless academics in the West, capitalism continues to flourish and adapt to changing times.

The needless expense is the Royals were not disbanded when the Bankers took over ownership of the Stock Market as that was ownership of all the merchants possessions. Enter 'pay to play'



It's far from perfect but it is better than any other system mankind has invented.

It is the only one that increases the gap between the rich and the poor on a continual basis. In any other system the lean years affect the poor more, in the good years the greatest change takes place at that same level as well. Using false flags to create artificially lean times is a crime against humanity. Capitalism cannot exist if the poor are not made poorer.



BTW not only were the capitalists such as Krupp, IG Farben, Siemens among the first to support Hitler (after the doctors!), he treated them well to the end.

There are some vids available that are very detailed and very accurate. Would you like a link to one of them?



BTW the behaviour of the german medical profession was horrifying at that time.
People are still experimented on with the planet being the lab. How long before Japan is the center for new species popping up?
 

Bar Sinister

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Ha Ha ha ha written by socialists what would you expect them to say, I'm just guessing here are these the same researchers that also wrote for the Paris agreement that the transfer of wealth to the third world is the only way to save our planet?




Actually, the transfer of wealth to developing nations seems to be working quite well. In the last 40 years almost every developing nation has experienced an increase in overall development and wealth; some like China in quite a spectacular fashion. I'm not sure if it would have happened anyway without all the global assistance, but no doubt foreign aid helped.
 

Gilgamesh

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These posts are quite interesting.

As noted earlier, capitalism is far from perfect but the criticisms here are rubbish. I cannot believe the childish & simplistic nonsense here. These are all Marxist arguments from the 1940's.

It isn't my job to teach.
 

Danbones

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Actually, the transfer of wealth to developing nations seems to be working quite well. In the last 40 years almost every developing nation has experienced an increase in overall development and wealth; some like China in quite a spectacular fashion

Ummmm.

No other people in this century except Soviet citizens have suffered so much mass killing in cold blood as have the Chinese.

These poor souls experienced every manner of death for every conceivable reason. Genocide, politicide, mass murder, massacres, and individually directed assassinations; burning alive, burying alive, starvation, drowning, infecting with germs, shooting, stabbing; this for personal power, out of feelings of superiority, because of lust or greed, to terrorize others into surrendering, to keep subjects in line, out of nationalist ideals, or to achieve utopia.

Power kills. And absolute power kills en masse. Consider--the Soviet Union, 61,911,000 people murdered; the Chinese communists, 38,000,000; the Nazis, 17,000,000; the Chinese Nationalists, 10,214,000
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/CHINA.CHAP1.HTM

Soooo much worse than hitler...and you wonder why we don't ever see eye to eye.

"competition is a sin" is NOT capitalism.
 

darkbeaver

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These posts are quite interesting.

As noted earlier, capitalism is far from perfect but the criticisms here are rubbish. I cannot believe the childish & simplistic nonsense here. These are all Marxist arguments from the 1940's.

It isn't my job to teach.


Capitalism is innocent of all those charges. In the past I have used capital to vilify capital, innocently, when I would have been better advised to point to crime which of course is the villian. Capital cannot be brought to trial anymore than a hammer or a shovel.
 

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Actually, the transfer of wealth to developing nations seems to be working quite well. In the last 40 years almost every developing nation has experienced an increase in overall development and wealth; some like China in quite a spectacular fashion. I'm not sure if it would have happened anyway without all the global assistance, but no doubt foreign aid helped.

Who transferred money to China? Markets were opened for them to walk through the door, once through the door Socialism turned to hyper capitalism Gov. controlled of course.
 

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Unless It Changes, Capitalism Will Starve Humanity By 2050

Capitalism has generated massive wealth for some, but it’s devastated the planet and has failed to improve human well-being at scale.
• Species are going extinct at a rate 1,000 times faster than that of the natural rate over the previous 65 million years (see Center for Health and the Global Environment at Harvard Medical School).
• Since 2000, 6 million hectares of primary forest have been lost each year. That’s 14,826,322 acres, or just less than the entire state of West Virginia (see the 2010 assessment by the Food and Agricultural Organization of the UN).
• Even in the U.S., 15% of the population lives below the poverty line. For children under the age of 18, that number increases to 20% (see U.S. Census).

• The world’s population is expected to reach 10 billion by 2050 (see United Nations' projections).





http://www.forbes.com/sites/drewhan...sm-will-starve-humanity-by-2050/#a57842a7ccc8
 

Liberalman

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We have to blame the education system for not teaching the whole truth just parts of it so we can all be dedicated hard working slaves
 

taxslave

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UN Scientific Paper Suggests Capitalism Has to Die in Order for the Planet to Be Saved

Capitalism and global sustainability are incongruous with one another, according to a recent paper for the UN’s 2019 Global Sustainable Development Report.
The team of researchers from various academic institutions throughout Finland who wrote the report gave a sobering assessment of the planet’s future if the current economic order continues unabated. Namely, that all rich Western countries have based their societies on an abundance of cheap energy, which the scientists say is no longer a reality.
“Economies have used up the capacity of planetary ecosystems to handle the waste generated by energy and material use,” the paper reads. “[D]ominant economic theories as well as policy-related economic modeling rely on the presupposition of continued energetic and material growth. The theories and models anticipate only incremental changes in the existing economic order. Hence, they are inadequate for explaining the current turmoil.”
Scientists argued that worsening climate change is having a drastic impact on ecosystems and biodiversity, and that symptoms of unchecked capitalism like rising inequality, unemployment, and debt are also contributing to the destabilization of society. In order to guarantee that humanity is able to have a good quality of life on earth for future generations, the paper’s authors argued that new economic systems will have to be created, rather than the standard band-aid approach governments have taken in the recent past.
More: http://gritpost.com/un-paper-capitalism/
Looks like the UN would like all of us to be equally poor. There goes your welfare and free medical cliffy.
 

taxslave

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Ha Ha ha ha written by socialists what would you expect them to say, I'm just guessing here are these the same researchers that also wrote for the Paris agreement that the transfer of wealth to the third world is the only way to save our planet?
Finland's socialists were at least smart enough to drill for oil offshore to help finance their vision of nirvanna. Unlike ours that want to kill off the economy and live off of taxing the rich. Somehow I don't think all those government employees are going to like being taxed down to the level the rest of us are forced to survive at.
 

taxslave

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What is your personal carrying capacity for grief, rage, despair? We are living in a period of mass extinction. The numbers stand at 200 species a day. That's 73,000 a year. This culture is oblivious to their passing, feels entitled to their every last niche, and there is no roll call on the nightly news.
There is a name for the tsunami wave of extermination: the Holocene extinction event. There's no asteroid this time, only human behavior, behavior that we could choose to stop. Adolph Eichman's excuse was that no one told him that the concentration camps were wrong. We've all seen the pictures of the drowning polar bears. Are we so ethically numb that we need to be told this is wrong?
Need more reasons to resist?
http://deepgreenresistance.org/why-resist/problem-of-civilization
THe solution of course is to cut human population down to sustainable levels. Since you are so worried about it cliffy I vote for you to be first to go.
 

taxslave

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I'm surprised that none of the environmental rape and pillage crowd have commented on this.
Capitalism isn't the problem. Unabated reproduction and distinct lack of culling the herd is. Capitalism is simply the result of too many people wanting the good life. I recommend anyone concerned about the rampant population increase remove themselves from the gene pool and therefore the welfare rolls. The rest of us will make money off it until the mass exodus of fools make funeral home shares more desirable.
 

Gilgamesh

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There were indeed Jews in higher ranks of the early Communist Party.

However by the 1930's, Stalin had liquidated almost all. In fact 99% of Jewish doctors and lawyers (plus families) were mostly dead or worked to a lingering death in the gulags.
 

Gilgamesh

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Ok, you can't have Global Warming as the Greatest Scam in History and have Global Capitalism as the Greatest Scam in History too. One has to be worse then the other. :p

But I always had hatred towards Capitalism and what it represents. And before someone tries to shove "Freedom" in my face, Capitalism has nothing to do with freedom, let alone Democracy.
Oh?? History shows conclusively you are out to lunch.
Capitalism has many faults so which alternative would you prefer?

Absolute monarchy.

Communism, in its various disguises:- N.Korea, China,

Theocracy, as in Iran, Iraq, etc.

And of course our own capitalist evil Western democracies.

You are an empty vessel
:)
 

Hoid

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There is no capitalism.

That is fake news and always has been.