Geert Wilders comes to Canada

[CDNBear]

They both support extremism

Wow, you made sense. I hope you didn't hurt yourself.

 

[Colpy]

i'm still chortling over this




expect insults when you're a ignorant neanderthal who hasn't got a proper grasp of reality...

ROTFLMAO

What is the life expectancy in Gaza relative to its Arab neighbours under Israeli "genocide"?

What percentage of Egyptian women have undergone FGM, according to WHO?

etc etc etc

Everytime you make the mistake of actually putting forth what you believe are "facts", you have been made to look a fool.

If I'm an "ignorant neanderthal", you aren't even far enough up the evolutionary scale to have developed a backbone!!!!

 

[petros]

Israel has made some very very very stupid mistakes. Hamas was one of them. They earned that one al on their own.

 

[Colpy]

Israel has made some very very very stupid mistakes. Hamas was one of them. They earned that one al on their own.

Absolutely true.

Israel quietly supported Hamas when it was a social organization working to improve the lives of Palestinians........they hoped the off shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood would draw support from the terrorists of Fatah.

OOOPS.

And a warnimg to anyone fool enough to believe in the benevolence of the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

[petros]

The real OOOPS was screwing the Christians over so heavily there was only the Brotherhood left to even try to work with.

 

[CUBert]

ROTFLMAO

What is the life expectancy in Gaza relative to its Arab neighbours under Israeli "genocide"?

What percentage of Egyptian women have undergone FGM, according to WHO?

etc etc etc

Everytime you make the mistake of actually putting forth what you believe are "facts", you have been made to look a fool.

If I'm an "ignorant neanderthal", you aren't even far enough up the evolutionary scale to have developed a backbone!!!!

B.S post

 

[CDNBear]

B.S post

I agree, Best Sensible post.

 

[CUBert]

I was going to say don't ruin your credibility by calling that incoherent ****fest a sensible post, then i realized you didn't have any credibility to begin with.

 

[CDNBear]

I was going to say don't ruin your credibility by calling that incoherent ****fest a sensible post, then i realized you didn't have any credibility to begin with.

Given the fact that Colpy and I have dissected your posts, showed your errors, torn apart your links, so many times, that any self respecting adult would be to embarrassed to show their nic in here again. I don't think you are in any position to question the credibility of anyone. Especially since you threatened to punch someones teeth out. That was the all time stupid move, removing all doubt about what you are and how much 'cred' you have, or rather, don't have left.

But please, don't let that stop you from continuing to allow Colpy or I, to embarrass you ad nauseum.

 

[CUBert]

Colpy doesn't have the intellect , nor do you, to dissect, evaluate, and come to any sane or unbiased conclusion.. The only thing embarrassing is reading posts from you two clowns.

 

[CDNBear]

The only thing embarrassing is reading posts from you two clowns.

Yes, I would imagine you would feel embarrassment by how easily we tear apart your posts.

 

[Colpy]

B.S post

I was going to say don't ruin your credibility by calling that incoherent ****fest a sensible post, then i realized you didn't have any credibility to begin with.

Colpy doesn't have the intellect , nor do you, to dissect, evaluate, and come to any sane or unbiased conclusion.. The only thing embarrassing is reading posts from you two clowns.

Three in a row........nothing substantial whatsoever.

Proving my point........



Keep it up.

 

[Tonington]

You can't compare something like climate discussion to something like race or religion.

I'm not comparing them...I'm saying that for any policy/debate/discussion, at all where the conversation is dominated by the extreme ends, that everyone in between is not made better. When you say it's good to have another extreme opinion to balance another, I don't see that as being desirable at all.

Another clear example, our health care system needs attention and needs to change with the times and circumstances. Having the debate center on privatization versus the status quo, or us versus them (Canada v. USA) does not help, or make the rest of us in the middle any better off.

I do not have to tolerate their insults.

I never said you have to tolerate anything Colpy.

 

[CUBert]

Three in a row........nothing substantial whatsoever.

Proving my point........



Keep it up.

Nothing substantial to reply to

 

[CDNBear]

I'm not comparing them...I'm saying that for any policy/debate/discussion, at all where the conversation is dominated by the extreme ends, that everyone in between is not made better. When you say it's good to have another extreme opinion to balance another, I don't see that as being desirable at all.

Neither do I, but we don't live in a perfect world, and we have to work with what we have. I don't take Geert or his illk serious anyways, but he makes a nice counter to the usual suspects. They're all cut from the same cloth.

Another clear example, our health care system needs attention and needs to change with the times and circumstances. Having the debate center on privatization versus the status quo, or us versus them (Canada v. USA) does not help, or make the rest of us in the middle any better off.

Again, not quite in the same group.You can have a simple debate about health care, as facts are readily available. But when you try and discuss things like religion, you are taking about theories, beliefs and things that just aren't quite as tangible.

Nothing substantial to reply to

Because when replying to your nonsense, we simply just can't justify wasting the time putting any effort into something that would go well over your head. Like freedoms.

 

[Colpy]

A little more from Geert Wilders:

".....Islam itself has only one form. The totalitarian ideology contained in the Koran has no room for moderation. If you really look at what the Koran says, in fact, you could argue that ‘moderate’ Muslims are not Muslims at all. It tells us that if you do not act on even one verse, then you are an apostate.” Unlike most critics of Islam, who tend to shy away from the explosive subject of Mohammed himself, Mr. Wilders forthrightly describes the Muslim Prophet as a dictator, a pedophile and a warmonger. “If you study the life of Mohammed,” Mr.Wilders told me, “you can see that he was a worse terrorist than Osama bin Laden ever was.”

That last part, about Mohammed, I have said verbatim without reference to Mr. Wilders.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...between-islam-and-islamism-for-geert-wilders/

Obviously, I agree completely with his premise.

Now: What are we going to do about it?

 

[mentalfloss]

As was proved to you in another thread, with you own link no less. The ruling Judge in the case, before the Feds back peddled, stated, that had the Feds not interfered, he would have upheld the barring of Galloway, on the grounds of his suspected financial support of a list terror group. He believed, that because of meddling committed by the feds, that Galloway was being barred for his message, not for his actions.

I'm just going by the wiki:

Justice Luc Martineau cited non-citizens "do not have an unqualified right to enter in Canada. The admission of a foreign national to this country is a privilege determined by statute, regulation or otherwise, and not as a matter of right." The judge also noted "a proper factual record and the benefit of full legal argument...are lacking at the present time."[129] Subsequently, Galloway canceled his Canadian tour and instead, delivered his speech over video link from New York to his Canadian audiences.[136] Galloway was allowed entry into Canada in October 2010, after a judge concluded that the original ban had been undertaken for political reasons.

George Galloway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So as far as I understand, a judge admitted him back into Canada.

Yes, his dealings with Hamas is pretty sketchy, but there was no definitive legal call on that - which is what Colpy's post was assuming.

 

[Colpy]

I'm just going by the wiki:

Justice Luc Martineau cited non-citizens "do not have an unqualified right to enter in Canada. The admission of a foreign national to this country is a privilege determined by statute, regulation or otherwise, and not as a matter of right." The judge also noted "a proper factual record and the benefit of full legal argument...are lacking at the present time."[129] Subsequently, Galloway canceled his Canadian tour and instead, delivered his speech over video link from New York to his Canadian audiences.[136] Galloway was allowed entry into Canada in October 2010, after a judge concluded that the original ban had been undertaken for political reasons.

George Galloway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So as far as I understand, a judge admitted him back into Canada.

Yes, his dealings with Hamas is pretty sketchy, but there was no definitive legal call on that - which is what Colpy's post was assuming.

In other words he had not been convicted......

So, we should have let him in, arrested him, and tried him for supporting terrorism????

OF COURSE it was a political decision to keep him out, so what?

And there certainly is NO excuse to keep Mr. Wilders out now, is there?

Not that we need one, if we so choose....it is our sand box.

 

[mentalfloss]

In other words he had not been convicted......

So, we should have let him in, arrested him, and tried him for supporting terrorism????

OF COURSE it was a political decision to keep him out, so what?

And there certainly is NO excuse to keep Mr. Wilders out now, is there?

Not that we need one, if we so choose....it is our sand box.

I'm not stepping into the rest of this thread until I know more of the facts.

All I'm saying is that there was some definitive legal action against Galloway is disingenuous.

 

[CUBert]

In other words he had not been convicted......

So, we should have let him in, arrested him, and tried him for supporting terrorism????

OF COURSE it was a political decision to keep him out, so what?

And there certainly is NO excuse to keep Mr. Wilders out now, is there?

Not that we need one, if we so choose....it is our sand box.

You can't believe Galloway can't speak here in Canada and Geert can... You should believe they both should be allowed, or they both shouldn't be allowed.... otherwise you're being blatantly bias and shouldn't be taken seriously.