France banning all fossil fueled cars in a decade
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I dont need to click the link do I?
That's not an application for oil subsidies is it?
Can't find any?
That's not an application for oil subsidies is it?
Can't find any?
Yes, but by the time we do, your bones will have long been moldering in the ground.
Fossil fuel companies need not apply.
Depends if we develop immortality by then.
I would suggest that cleaner energy alternatives are a good thing, but they haven't figured out how to make it cleaner.
The charge put into an electric car is really just a fuel that has been burned elsewhere to get that energy. Be it, coal, nuclear, in the case of the north where these power options are not available, there is diesel and LNG as a power source. And if you're thinking that windmills will power anything in the NWT or the Yukon, you may as well go back to the drawing board. The city of Yellowknife is completely reliant on diesel to power its city during the winter months. Inuvik uses LNG.
In addition to buying an electric car, you will need to have a charging station put in at your place of residence. These stations do not come with the car and pose a significant extra cost that will require permits and hiring a certified electrician to put in the proper breakers and outlets. It's not a matter of running down to Canadian Tire and getting an extension cord.
Personally, I think it would be cool to go greener, but not at any cost, like in Ontario.
With the exhaust systems in new vehicles there is very little emissions anyway. It is just the eco nuts that run around in ancient polluting vehicles.
I understand your arguments, but they have been made before by owners of horses when internal combustion vehicles first appeared on the scene, namely that they were expensive and there were few refueling stations. As for the NWT just remember that the entire population of Canada north of 60 degrees is less than 0.35%. Whether it convert to electric vehicles or not will make almost no difference.
When it takes 8 to break even on carbon input into making batteries that last 5 years makes an internal combustion engine 30% more efficient than EVs.
https://principia-scientific.org/st...ses-as-much-co2-as-8-years-of-driving-on-gas/
Battery Production Releases As Much CO2 As 8 Years Of Driving On Gas
Enormous hopes are linked to electric cars as the solution to the automotive industry’s climate problems. However, electric car batteries are eco-villains during their manufacturing. Several tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) are generated even before the batteries leave the factory.
IVL The Swedish Environment Institute has, on behalf of the Swedish Transport Administration and the Swedish Energy Agency, investigated the climate impact of lithium-ion batteries from a life-cycle perspective. The batteries for electric cars were included in the study. The two authors—Lisbeth Dahllöf and Mia Romare—have done a meta-study, that is, reviewed and compiled existing studies.
The report shows that battery manufacturing leads to high emissions. For each kilowatt-hour of storage capacity in the battery, emissions of 150 to 200 kilograms of carbon dioxide are generated in the factory. The researchers have not studied the individual car brand batteries, just how they were produced or what electrical mix they used. But to understand the importance of battery size, two standard electric cars on the market, Nissan Leaf and Tesla Model S, have batteries of approximately 30 kWh and 100 kWh respectively.
Even before you buy the car, CO2 emissions equivalent to 5.3 tons and 17.5 tons, respectively, gets produced. The numbers can be difficult to put in context. By way of comparison, a trip for a person returning from Stockholm to New York by air emits more than 600 kilograms of CO2, according to the UN organization ICAO’s calculation model.
Another conclusion of the study is that about half the emissions come from producing the raw materials and the other half from the battery factory. The mining accounts for only a small proportion of between 10-20 percent.
https://principia-scientific.org/st...ses-as-much-co2-as-8-years-of-driving-on-gas/
Battery Production Releases As Much CO2 As 8 Years Of Driving On Gas
Enormous hopes are linked to electric cars as the solution to the automotive industry’s climate problems. However, electric car batteries are eco-villains during their manufacturing. Several tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) are generated even before the batteries leave the factory.
IVL The Swedish Environment Institute has, on behalf of the Swedish Transport Administration and the Swedish Energy Agency, investigated the climate impact of lithium-ion batteries from a life-cycle perspective. The batteries for electric cars were included in the study. The two authors—Lisbeth Dahllöf and Mia Romare—have done a meta-study, that is, reviewed and compiled existing studies.
The report shows that battery manufacturing leads to high emissions. For each kilowatt-hour of storage capacity in the battery, emissions of 150 to 200 kilograms of carbon dioxide are generated in the factory. The researchers have not studied the individual car brand batteries, just how they were produced or what electrical mix they used. But to understand the importance of battery size, two standard electric cars on the market, Nissan Leaf and Tesla Model S, have batteries of approximately 30 kWh and 100 kWh respectively.
Even before you buy the car, CO2 emissions equivalent to 5.3 tons and 17.5 tons, respectively, gets produced. The numbers can be difficult to put in context. By way of comparison, a trip for a person returning from Stockholm to New York by air emits more than 600 kilograms of CO2, according to the UN organization ICAO’s calculation model.
Another conclusion of the study is that about half the emissions come from producing the raw materials and the other half from the battery factory. The mining accounts for only a small proportion of between 10-20 percent.
I'm sure there's a net reduction in emissions, otherwise they wouldn't have a product to market.
Electric fukkihn potatoes you should get excieted
about. Francehas run its programe to the end and should be tossed in the flea market bin.
about. Francehas run its programe to the end and should be tossed in the flea market bin.
Perhaps you are right, but this article doesn't seem to support your position. And there is also the fact that internal combustion engines and their fuel sources have reached their peak efficiency while the process of making batteries continues to evolve. I suspect that the batteries we have now will not be the batteries of tomorrow.
Gasoline vs Electric—Who Wins on Lifetime Global Warming Emissions? We Found Outhttp://blog.ucsusa.org/rachael-nealer/gasoline-vs-electric-global-warming-emissions-953
Oh look, you're wrong again.
Shocker.
The ‘electric cars aren’t green’ myth debunked – shrinkthatfootprint.com
SHould have tried a factual source not a shill for electric cars. Then maybe you could be right once this year.