Flynn and Son to be charged for Russian Collusion

Murphy

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Cite? Otherwise, I have to call you a liar.

This is Russian Collision, tovarich!

 

Hoid

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What we need to know is why he lied.

That is the whole ballgame.

Did he lie because he just lies all the time and lying comes easy to him?

Or did he lie because the white house told him there could be no admitting that anyone talked to the russians? What has to come out is what happened and why it happened.

I should add that the fact of the russian election meddling has already gravely undermined the validity of this presidency. If it os proved that that Trump knowlingly sought out and accepted Russian help that would destroy his administration.

So they are playing for high stakes here.
 

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That, MF, will come out of the investigation, not OB's, or anyone else's silly posts. We'll have to wait and see.

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America’s long history of meddling in other countries’ elections
By Martin Williams
23 Nov 2017

Last week, Theresa May accused Russia of “meddling in elections” and trying to “undermine free societies”.

The remarks followed Donald Trump’s defence of Vladimir Putin, over claims that he interfered with the US presidential election last year.

“[Putin] said he didn’t meddle,” Mr. Trump told reporters. “Every time he sees me he says, ‘I didn’t do that,’ and I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it.”

One thing is certain, however: meddling in elections is nothing new. And Russia is not the only country to have been accused of it.

The west – and particularly the US – have a long history of rigging polls, supporting military coups, channeling funds and spreading political propaganda in other countries.

Last week, Theresa May accused Russia of “meddling in elections” and trying to “undermine free societies”.

The remarks followed Donald Trump’s defence of Vladimir Putin, over claims that he interfered with the US presidential election last year.

“[Putin] said he didn’t meddle,” Mr. Trump told reporters. “Every time he sees me he says, ‘I didn’t do that,’ and I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it.”

One thing is certain, however: meddling in elections is nothing new. And Russia is not the only country to have been accused of it.

The west – and particularly the US – have a long history of rigging polls, supporting military coups, channeling funds and spreading political propaganda in other countries.

US interference and meddling

Covert interventions have been done by many countries over the years and – because they are shrouded in secrecy – it’s impossible to get a comprehensive picture of every instance across the world.

Part of the reason why we know about lots of US operations is that its government is relatively transparent when compared to some others. (‘Relatively’ is the key word here: there is much we may never know about its secret foreign plots, but the release of many historical documents do allow us to shed some light – albeit usually years later).

The rest here.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factc...tory-of-meddling-in-other-countries-elections
 

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Oh oh...the Trumpites are starting to use the old "we do it as well" schtick in a feeble attempt to deflect attention away from Trump's collusion with the Ruskies. Can't say I'm surprised.
 

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President BiPolar starting to heat up the twitter - this could be a classic night

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Congratulations to @ABC News for suspending Brian Ross for his horrendously inaccurate and dishonest report on the Russia, Russia, Russia Witch Hunt. More Networks and “papers” should do the same with their Fake News!
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Many people in our Country are asking what the “Justice” Department is going to do about the fact that totally Crooked Hillary, AFTER receiving a subpoena from the United States Congress, deleted and “acid washed” 33,000 Emails? No justice!
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Brian Ross, a longtime investigative reporter at the network, reported Friday morning during a special report that Flynn had been directed to contact Russian officials by then-candidate Donald Trump during the presidential campaign. When pleading guilty, Flynn admitted to lying about contacts with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. during the presidential transition period, but filings from the office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller did not allege any contacts during the campaign itself, or implicate Mr. Trump directly.

lol

The trump hoiters are too stupid to realize what actually just happened here
haha
 

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ABC's Brian Ross suspended for fake news on the Flynn story. Well actually it's true news but it just hasn't been proven yet.


ABC News suspends Brian Ross over 'serious error' in Flynn report | Fox News

During a live "special report" Friday morning, Ross reported that Flynn would testify that Donald Trump had ordered him to make contact with Russians about foreign policy while Trump was still a candidate. The report raised the specter of Trump's impeachment and sent the stock market plummeting.

Later in the day, ABC News -- part of the reliably liberal Disney ABC Television Network -- issued a "clarification" to Ross's report, saying that Trump's alleged directive came after he'd been elected president. That's a key distinction in any investigation of Russian actions during the campaign. Ross himself appeared on "World News Tonight" several hours after the initial report to clarify his error.
nice work Walter. But we covered this 4 hours ago.
 

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Yes, but it never hurts to revisit media lies and disinformation. :lol:

Everybody wants ta get into da act!

 

Danbones

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nice work Walter. But we covered this 4 hours ago.

...and you are still wrong
;)
He was being nice to see if your lot had improved at all in that time
Slime chance of that though, eh?

Alex Jones even sure made a fool out of you on this one!
haha
 

avro22

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...and you are still wrong
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He was being nice to see if your lot had improved at all in that time
Slime chance of that though, eh?

Alex Jones even sure made a fool out of you on this one!
haha

What happened at Sandy Hook
 

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Oops: Trump’s latest tweet about Michael Flynn strengthens Mueller’s case against president

WASHINGTON—U.S. President Donald Trump was trying to defend himself.

He made things worse. Perhaps significantly worse.

The day after his former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his communications with Russia, Trump decided, against the advice of his aides, to discuss the subject on Twitter.

The tweet was not a good idea.

Experts at Harvard University, Stanford University, Yale University, Duke University and the University of Texas told the Star that Trump’s words would help special counsel Robert Mueller establish a case that Trump committed obstruction of justice.

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...-lied-to-pence-maintains-nothing-to-hide.html
 

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