Flotilla of 50 'little ships' make journey from Ramsgate to Dunkirk 75 years on

[Tecumsehsbones]

That's because you weren't even in the war in 1940. You turned up late on the scene after over two years of fighting and millions already dead.

Yep. Pretty good planning, enit? We let the Germans bleed each other, then bomb the crap outta what's left. Guaranteed 50 years of economic dominance while they rebuilt.

But had you been on the European continent in the spring of 1940 rather than twiddling your thumbs on the sidelines you also would also have been forced back to the Channel by Hitler's rampaging hordes and you would have had to have been bailed out by British fishermen.

Here's the thing. I think we shoulda let y'all Germans bleed each other to death. Only war we had any interest in was the Pacific. Getting involved in Europe cost us lives, money, and produced no benefit other than a legacy of treacherous, whingy "allies" with their hands out.

 

[Blackleaf]

It's been 65 years

70 years.

and you are still whining about the US not saving you from the fight you picked.

It's a well-known fact that Britain would have won WWII without the help of the trigger-happy Yanks. The war was a British/Soviet victory. Americans are no good at fighting wars.

As for "the fight we picked", Britain declared war on Germany according to the Anglo-Polish Agreement when Germany invaded Poland. Germany started World War II. In fact, Britain and France didn't take the fight to Germany quickly enough. They should have taken action on Germany immediately after it invaded Poland. Instead, after they declared war on Germany in September 1939, nothing then happened for months, a period known as the Phoney War.

Yet Germany's generals were so afraid of an immediate counter-attack by Allied forces as soon as they invaded Poland that they placed 46 infantry divisions — of which only 11 were fully trained — along Germany's western border. By contrast, France had, at least on paper, the ability to mobilise well over a hundred divisions, not including four divisions of the British Expeditionary Force. And yet the British and French did nothing for months. The subsequent failure to attack Germany, despite the proclamation of war, gave Germany an entire year to prepare for its attack on France.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

70 years.

It's a well-known fact that Britain would have won WWII without the help of the trigger-happy Yanks.

So, something that never happened is a fact? Yep, clinically delusional.

 

[Blackleaf]

So, something that never happened is a fact? Yep, clinically delusional.

It would have been a fact had it happened. The trouble with you Yanks is that you think too highly of yourselves. Had you been fighting on the European continent in May 1940 you also would have been sent back to the coast by Hitler's hordes and would also have been rescued by British fishermen just as British, French and Belgian soldiers were. The ONLY reason why it didn't happen to your lot was because you weren't even in the war.

The average British soldier is better trained, more highly skilled and much more intelligent than the average braindead American soldier. The British Army is the best in the world.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

It would have been a fact had it happened.

That's not what you said. You said it is a fact, not it would have been a fact (whatever that means).

The trouble with you Yanks is that you think too highly of yourselves.

The trouble with you is you think your speculations are facts.

The average British soldier is betetr trained, more highly skilled and much more intelligent than the average braindead American soldier.

The average Royal Navy veteran is clearly a bloody imbecile. You prove that every day.

 

[Blackleaf]

That's not what you said. You said it is a fact, not it would have been a fact (whatever that means).

It IS a fact that WWII would have been won by the allies without America.

The average Royal Navy veteran is clearly a bloody imbecile. You prove that every day.

The Royal Navy is the best in the world, bar none.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

It IS a fact that WWII would have been won by the allies without America.



The Royal Navy is the best in the world, bar none.

And just proved it again.

 

[Blackleaf]

And just proved it again.

I don't need to prove that the Royal Navy is the best military navy in the world. It proves it day in, day out.

 

[Ludlow]

70 years.

It's a well-known fact that Britain would have won WWII without the help of the trigger-happy Yanks. The war was a British/Soviet victory. Americans are no good at fighting wars.

As for "the fight we picked", Britain declared war on Germany according to the Anglo-Polish Agreement when Germany invaded Poland. Germany started World War II. In fact, Britain and France didn't take the fight to Germany quickly enough. They should have taken action on Germany immediately after it invaded Poland. Instead, after they declared war on Germany in September 1939, nothing then happened for months, a period known as the Phoney War.

Yet Germany's generals were so afraid of an immediate counter-attack by Allied forces as soon as they invaded Poland that they placed 46 infantry divisions — of which only 11 were fully trained — along Germany's western border. By contrast, France had, at least on paper, the ability to mobilise well over a hundred divisions, not including four divisions of the British Expeditionary Force. And yet the British and French did nothing for months. The subsequent failure to attack Germany, despite the proclamation of war, gave Germany an entire year to prepare for its attack on France.

I'd have to agree with Blackloaf on this one it's a well known fact that Alfred Hitchcock could whoop some azz,,especially after his nap and some tea and crumpets.

 

[Goober]

Britain fought the Nazis alone throughout 1940 whilst most of the rest of Europe was under the Nazi jackboot and countries like America sat on the sidelines.

America would have surrendered within six months of fighting the Nazis alone.

And Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa were what chopped liver?
Hitler let the Brits evacuate Dunkirk. Historical fact.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Because you're making them up in your head.

See, there was never an American Dunkirk. So you don't know what would have happened if there ever had been. So your certainty about what would have happened exists only in your excuse for a mind. That you actually think these fantasies are facts is delusional.

Corrigador was the American Dunkirk.

 

[Goober]

Corrigador was the American Dunkirk.

No..

 

[MHz]

Where is the Bismark to give them a decent bow wave to ride?

 

[Sons of Liberty]

And Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa were what chopped liver?
Hitler let the Brits evacuate Dunkirk. Historical fact.

Yes, in the eyes of Blackleaf you were just doing what you were told like good obedient colonies.

Blackleaf (now this is just a guess), considers it his personal responsibility to inform the colonies (like Canada) of the major news (especially concerning the decrepit Royal family) in the UK.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Yes, in the eyes of Blackleaf you were just doing what you were told like good obedient colonies.

Blackleaf (now this is just a guess), considers it his personal responsibility to inform the colonies (like Canada) of the major news (especially concerning the decrepit Royal family) in the UK.

After Dunkirk, the only intact, fully equipped division in England was the First Canadian Division and had Hitler invaded at that time, they surely would have been front and center of the island's defenses.

 

[Blackleaf]

And Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa were what chopped liver?

Nothing but the toy poodles and playthings of Great Britain, I'm afraid. We tell you to jump and you jump. It was Britain which fought Germany alone in 1940. The colonies were just an extension of Britain.

Hitler let the Brits evacuate Dunkirk. Historical fact.

If it is a historical fact then it was a big mistake on his part to allow 338,226 British, French and Belgian soldiers to escape alive back to the safety of Britain where they lived again to fight another day rather than slaughtering them all and taking 338,226 British, French and Belgian soldiers out of the war.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Nothing but the toy poodles and playthings of Great Britain, I'm afraid. We tell you to jump and you jump. It was Britain which fought Germany alone in 1940. The colonies were just an extension of Britain.

If it is a historical fact then it was a big mistake on his part to allow 338,226 British, French and Belgian soldiers to escape alive back to the safety of Britain where they lived again to fight another day rather than slaughtering them all and taking 338,226 British, French and Belgian soldiers out of the war.

You are correct for the beginning of WWI but not the second war. Canada going to war was debated, pretty extensively talked about here. It was not automatic. There were many thousands of quite bitter WWI veterans who were dead set against it. We did not automatically go to war and our declaration came a week+ after that of Britain.

Canada at War | Second World War | Canada's Military History | The Loyal Edmonton Regiment Museum

Here is a "did you know" about Dunkirk: Not only were Canadians part of the evacuated body, they were being LANDED at Dunkirk while the British Army was leaving.

The evacuation of Dunkirk May 1940

HyperWar: The Canadian Army 1939-1945: An Official Historical Summary [Chapter 1]

 

[Blackleaf]

You are correct for the beginning of WWI but not the second war. Canada going to war was debated, pretty extensively talked about here. It was not automatic. There were many thousands of quite bitter WWI veterans who were dead set against it. We did not automatically go to war and our declaration came a week+ after that of Britain.

Canada at War | Second World War | Canada's Military History | The Loyal Edmonton Regiment Museum

Nah. You were still bound by Britain's declaration of war because it had been made in the name of our common monarch.

 

[petros]

Bullsh-t!!!

 

[Blackleaf]

Here is a "did you know" about Dunkirk: Not only were Canadians part of the evacuated body, they were being LANDED at Dunkirk while the British Army was leaving.

The evacuation of Dunkirk May 1940

HyperWar: The Canadian Army 1939-1945: An Official Historical Summary [Chapter 1]

No Canadian units were at Dunkirk, but elements of 1 Canadian Divisionhttp://www.alibris.com/search/books/isbn/9781846779817 were landed in France in June 1940 in the wake of Dunkirk and almost immediately withdrawn.

Bullsh-t!!!

Go on then. Prove it.