Flotilla of 50 'little ships' make journey from Ramsgate to Dunkirk 75 years on

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No Canadian units were at Dunkirk, but elements of 1 Canadian Divisionhttp://www.alibris.com/search/books/isbn/9781846779817 were landed in France in June 1940 in the wake of Dunkirk and almost immediately withdrawn.




Go on then. Prove it.
Your own UK history puts Canadians at Dunkirk. Read the preceding links. This one is from "Historic UK"
http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Evacuation-of-Dunkirk/

We were NOT bound by any royal decree to go to war. If that were true, half of black Africa would have been there, too.

The whole idea is quite batsy.
 

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BTW Canadian troops were in Dunkirk.
1 Brigade of 1 Canadian Division was dispatched to Brittany on June 8th, but they were recalled almost immediately. There were no Canadian units at Dunkirk. There may have been a few Canuckians in the British forces at Dunkirk, but that was about it.

As were the Canadian Air Force and Navy.

There were four Canadian vessels which were part of the 222 naval vessels and over 800 fishing/pleasure/commercial boat which picked up the British, French and Belgian troops.
 

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So now there are Canadians? Good boy BlackDeath, good boy. Sit! Stay puppy.

British, French, Canadian, and Belgian troops had been forced back to Dunkirk by the advancing German army. Nearly all the escape routes to the English Channel had been cut off; a terrible disaster had appeared inevitable. At the time Prime Minister Winston Churchill called it "a miracle of deliverance.....

Source: The evacuation of Dunkirk May 1940 Historic-UK.com
 

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1 Brigade of 1 Canadian Division was dispatched to Brittany on June 8th

Some dim bulb in the British General Staff was landing them as the "little boats" were evacuating the BEF.
 

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The British, French and Belgium governments had seriously underestimated the strength of the German forces. As a result the British Expeditionary Force (BEF), as well as French, Canadian and Belgian troops, found themselves fighting against overwhelming odds. Before long, the Allied forces had retreated to the harbour and beaches of Dunkirk where they were trapped, a sitting target for the Germans.

Almost every single African country was involved in WWII.

I wonder why they called it a World War?
 

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Nothing but the toy poodles and playthings of Great Britain, I'm afraid. We tell you to jump and you jump. It was Britain which fought Germany alone in 1940. The colonies were just an extension of Britain.

If it is a historical fact then it was a big mistake on his part to allow 338,226 British, French and Belgian soldiers to escape alive back to the safety of Britain where they lived again to fight another day rather than slaughtering them all and taking 338,226 British, French and Belgian soldiers out of the war.

Very few of them contributed troops.

Show me the Black guys in the little boats in Brittany.
 

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1 Brigade of 1 Canadian Division was dispatched to Brittany on June 8th

Some dim bulb in the British General Staff was landing them as the "little boats" were evacuating the BEF.

Bull****.

Even as early as May 1940 whilst the Evacuation was taking place the British sent two divisions to France with the hope of establishing a Second BEF.

Once the Dunkirk evacuation had started, the attentions of Churchill and the Chiefs-of-Staff were drawn to the troops who had been cut off to the south of the German Army Group A's drive to the sea. They were; the Saar Force, chiefly composed of the 51st (Highland) Infantry Division, most of the 1st Armoured Division, and an improvised force called Beauman Division. The 52nd (Lowland) Infantry Division had been rushed to Cherbourg after the start of the blitzkrieg and the 1st Canadian Infantry Division were on their way. It was hoped that these forces might be sufficient to help stabilise the French defence and, if all else failed, there was talk of creating a "redoubt" or fortified foothold in the Brittany peninsula. General Alan Brooke had distinguished himself by his handling of II Corps, and was withdrawn to London on 29 May to command the new corps in the south which became known as the 2nd BEF.[23] In addition to the forces already in France or en route, Brooke requested that Montgomery's 3rd Infantry Division, who had just returned from Dunkirk, be made ready to join his new command.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Expeditionary_Force_%28World_War_II%29#The_Second_BEF_and_Operation_Ariel

Very few of them contributed troops.

Show me the Black guys in the little boats in Brittany.

African troops fighting for Britain, France, Italy and Belgium in WWII:

 

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Those guys were in the boats?


There were just over a third of a million troops that were rescued at Dunkirk, out of a total of 100 million or so military perosnnel who took part in the conflict.
 

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Bull****.

Even as early as May 1940 whilst the Evacuation was taking place the British sent two divisions to France with the hope of establishing a Second BEF.

Once the Dunkirk evacuation had started, the attentions of Churchill and the Chiefs-of-Staff were drawn to the troops who had been cut off to the south of the German Army Group A's drive to the sea. They were; the Saar Force, chiefly composed of the 51st (Highland) Infantry Division, most of the 1st Armoured Division, and an improvised force called Beauman Division. The 52nd (Lowland) Infantry Division had been rushed to Cherbourg after the start of the blitzkrieg and the 1st Canadian Infantry Division were on their way. It was hoped that these forces might be sufficient to help stabilise the French defence and, if all else failed, there was talk of creating a "redoubt" or fortified foothold in the Brittany peninsula. General Alan Brooke had distinguished himself by his handling of II Corps, and was withdrawn to London on 29 May to command the new corps in the south which became known as the 2nd BEF.[23] In addition to the forces already in France or en route, Brooke requested that Montgomery's 3rd Infantry Division, who had just returned from Dunkirk, be made ready to join his new command.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Expeditionary_Force_%28World_War_II%29#The_Second_BEF_and_Operation_Ariel



African troops fighting for Britain, France, Italy and Belgium in WWII:


They mostly stayed put in their countries. Where are the black faces at Arnhem? El-Alamein? Gold and Sword Beach? Sicily?? Dunkirk? The surrender of that whole, unfought army at Singapore?

I will admit and add, though about my father's experience. He was a Canadian pilot RCAF who was in command of a very large aircraft and crew of 22 that went with it (who were all British RAF) in the Far East. He served alongside Ghurkas and Seiks.


There were four Canadian vessels which were part of the 222 naval vessels and over 800 fishing/pleasure/commercial boat which picked up the British, French and Belgian troops.

We lost one of our few and precious destroyers during the evacuation. On the final day of the evacuation, Canadian destroyer “FRASER” was rammed and sunk by AA cruiser “Calcutta” off the Gironde Estuary leading into Bordeaux.

It took the RCN a long time to get their numbers up. One ship was a big deal, back then.
 

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I didn't say there weren't any Canadians at Dunkirk. Looks like you have some sort of inferiority complex there. There were no Canadian units at Dunkirk, as I've already pointed out. Just a few Canuckians serving in the British Army.

Also, good to see that that article from the Telegraph shows just how some officers in the German high command saw it as a big mistake by Hitler to allow the British, French and Belgians to get away scot free at Dunkirk rather than destroying them all.

"We could have wiped out the British Army completely if it weren't for the stupid order of Hitler," Kleist recalled. Certainly, if the BEF had been captured wholesale – more than a quarter of a million PoWs – there is no telling what concessions must have been wrung out of the British government, or whether Churchill could have survived as prime minister if he had demanded a continuation of the war.


They mostly stayed put in their countries. Where are the black faces at Arnhem? El-Alamein? Gold and Sword Beach? Sicily?? Dunkirk?


Troops of 11th East African Division of the British Army on the road to Kalewa, Burma, during the Chindwin River crossing



The surrender of that whole, unfought army at Singapore?
That was mainly Canadians who surrendered at Singapore. The British were angry with them afterwards for surrendering too easily without much of a fight.

As for Singapore, we didn't have enough troops and resources to defend it as they were all needed back in Europe against Germany.
 
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Nah. You were still bound by Britain's declaration of war because it had been made in the name of our common monarch.

We don't recognize your inbred royalty.

I didn't say there weren't any Canadians at Dunkirk. Looks like you have some sort of inferiority complex there. There were no Canadian units at Dunkirk, as I've already pointed out. Just a few Canuckians serving in the British Army.

Also, good to see that that article from the Telegraph shows just how some officers in the German high command saw it as a big mistake by Hitler to allow the British, French and Belgians to get away scot free at Dunkirk rather than destroying them all.

"We could have wiped out the British Army completely if it weren't for the stupid order of Hitler," Kleist recalled. Certainly, if the BEF had been captured wholesale – more than a quarter of a million PoWs – there is no telling what concessions must have been wrung out of the British government, or whether Churchill could have survived as prime minister if he had demanded a continuation of the war.





Troops of 11th East African Division of the British Army on the road to Kalewa, Burma, during the Chindwin River crossing



That was mainly Canadians.

As for Singapore, we didn't have enough troops and resources to defend it as they were all needed back in Europe against Germany.

Just throw a colony under the bus because it doesn't fit your plan.