Fisheries minister says Canada backs seal hunt despite market concerns

[hermanntrude]

no it isnt the culprit, because of the seal hunt. The cod are seriously in danger, and if we allow the seals to reproduce in numbers the population will explode and since i doubt mismanagement of fishing will ever stop, the seals and the fishermen combined will finish the cod off entirely.

 

[hermanntrude]

um

not quite true since they also eat other predators. from what I've read their impact is rather balanced that way.

I wasnt aware of this. Which predators do the seals eat do you know?

 

[tamarin]

So why should the seal be fingered for human stupidity?

 

[hermanntrude]

I still think with or without the cod issue, seal hunting is fine. I dont see it as any different to eating any other meat.

 

[CDNBear]

Herman: "Please bear in mind the seals are much worse than the spanish for stealing our cod stocks. If we stopped hunting seals the cod would be extinct in a decade"

Absolute baloney! Misinformation of the most egregious form. It is human and ministry mismanagement at the highest professional levels that has contributed to the cod collapse. It is not the seal that is the culprit.

tamrin, that is your opinion and you are welcome to it, but everyone can interpret the evidence their own way.

Most see that the seal populations and the fall of fish stocks, coincide better then the GHG and GW warming tripe does. Not to mention, parasites that were once exclusively seal woes, have found their way into fish stocks. That is a clear sign of of cross contamination by proximity over crowding.

I wish Tonnington was here, he'ld probably know all the data better then I.

 

[BitWhys]

not off the top of my head, no. sorry.

makes sense though.

the thing about a population explosion is very true as well, at which point some disease or other will make a whack on the back of the bean look like child's play.

I mean...

more than it does already.

 

[darkbeaver]

I wasnt aware of this. Which predators do the seals eat do you know?

Shrimp, squid, kapelan little cod are easy to swallow.

 

[hermanntrude]

So why should the seal be fingered for human stupidity?

i didnt say it should. What you seem to be suggesting is that at one and the same time we stop the government being stupid and stop hunting seals. This combination seems unrealistic. My suggestion is we leave things the way they are and maybe try to make the policies on the cod issue a little less stupid.

 

[BitWhys]

So why should the seal be fingered for human stupidity?

that's easy

because they're so ****ing cute.

 

[tamarin]

I take a long look forward on such issues. There is no way given the staggering decline in biodiversity going on on planet Earth at the moment that future historians won't be be repelled by the Atlantic seal cull as carried out in Canada. And by the mindset that allowed it to happen.

 

[hermanntrude]

I wonder if we could find someone with some real authority to tell us whether the seal hunt really is as barbaric as people believe, with beating and skinning alive and raping of the whitecoats, or whether it is in fact much like any other slaughter of an animal with a bullet through the head and that's the end of it

 

[hermanntrude]

I take a long look forward on such issues. There is no way given the staggering decline in biodiversity going on on planet Earth at the moment that future historians won't be be repelled by the Atlantic seal cull as carried out in Canada. And by the mindset that allowed it to happen.

the seals are in no danger of extinction by the hunting.

 

[darkbeaver]

So why should the seal be fingered for human stupidity?

Seals are cuter than fish nobody wants to cuddle a fish.

 

[darkbeaver]

I take a long look forward on such issues. There is no way given the staggering decline in biodiversity going on on planet Earth at the moment that future historians won't be be repelled by the Atlantic seal cull as carried out in Canada. And by the mindset that allowed it to happen.

A future for historians would be nice nontheless.

 

[BitWhys]

the seals are in no danger of extinction by the hunting.

matter of fact the population is growing about as fast as is good for them. for the most part if the hunt doesn't get them Mother Nature will.

 

[BitWhys]

Seals are cuter than fish nobody wants to cuddle a fish.

A fish named Wanda, maybe but that's still a matter of taste and availability.

 

[tamarin]

The issue is the morality of a large cull of wild creatures in a modern era. It doesn't matter whether they're all shot in the head or dispatched however, the killing of hundreds of thousands of recently born young mammals over a few short weeks is exactly what it seems to be: a barbaric act by a people insensitive to world opinion and their living in a modern age that's supposedly left that all behind. Shame on the Canadian government and those woefully misled members of the public that support this!

 

[darkbeaver]

the seals are in no danger of extinction by the hunting.

That's what we said about mastadons.:laughing7:

 

[hermanntrude]

The issue is the morality of a large cull of wild creatures in a modern era. It doesn't matter whether they're all shot in the head or dispatched however, the killing of hundreds of thousands of recently born young mammals over a few short weeks is exactly what it seems to be: a barbaric act by a people insensitive to world opinion and their living in a modern age that's supposedly left that all behind. Shame on the Canadian government and those woefully misled members of the public that support this!

The posters ALWAYS portray the whitecoat babies. Shooting a whitecoat is illegal and can get you in a lot of trouble. When you hunt seals you hunt the adults, and outside of the breeding season.

 

[hermanntrude]

That's what we said about mastadons.:laughing7:

not helping dark. Mastadons weren't our fault, i'm pretty sure.