Fisheries minister says Canada backs seal hunt despite market concerns

tamarin

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Bear, if I was to consult one hundred relevant global academics, experts in their field, and ask them about the seal hunt as practised here, would you defer to their decision?
 

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Bear, if I was to consult one hundred relevant global academics, experts in their field, and ask them about the seal hunt as practised here, would you defer to their decision?
If their affiliations didn't negate their position, perhaps. I did like wise, in the opposite, would you?
 

tamarin

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Of course, I would.. In the case of the seal hunt I know what their decision would be and I think the Canadian government is on extremely thin ice when it declares, for strictly political reasons, that it knows better.
 

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Of course, I would.. In the case of the seal hunt I know what their decision would be and I think the Canadian government is on extremely thin ice when it declares, for strictly political reasons, that it knows better.
Those political reasons, wouldn't be to not infringe upon the traditions of two entire groups and their cultures, would it?
 

tamarin

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No, the east coast is known as traditional Liberal territory and if you want to make inroads there you can't rattle the cage. The seal hunt goes on to curry the favour of those immersed in that part of our territory.
 

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No, the east coast is known as traditional Liberal territory and if you want to make inroads there you can't rattle the cage. The seal hunt goes on to curry the favour of those immersed in that part of our territory.
Umm, the hunt is nothing new, the laws regarding it are now and have been for some time a Liberal policy, the fact that the present Gov't feels no need to mess with them has less to with the issue then the colour of my hair.

The policy is good, the hunt is a tradition of both Native and Non native east coasters, it is also a necessary action.
 

tamarin

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We are running in a larger circle now and we've both had our say. I still think it sad that the moratorium was lifted and once more Canada is seen as a backward nation. By the world community.
 

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I'm glad you arrived, Bear. I knew from sources i trust that the seal hunt was no bad thing but didnt have the details to prove it. You did a good job.

My father in law has hunted seals since he was a child, and it's obviously an important tradition for him and his colleagues. He even invented a device for stretching their skins which turned out to be very similar to the method used by the natives in greenland
 

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We are running in a larger circle now and we've both had our say. I still think it sad that the moratorium was lifted and once more Canada is seen as a backward nation. By the world community.
Anyone that views Canada as a backward Nation can kiss my fur pelt covered ass. Do I really have to post the enormous list of global contributions, that would prove those thinkers to be emotional asshats?

I see no circular logic here, I see you and I debating the issue, rather maturely I might add. I actually value your opinion and I respect your stance. It is the derogatory image that some would create that irks my Canadian blood.

If anyone would judge Canada by this action, their opinion would hold as much value, with this Bear anyways, as a paper bag of dog shyte.
CDNBear like your new avatar. Strong and determined.
Thanks, I made it this morning, while I was going over a logo change idea, for my business.
I'm glad you arrived, Bear. I knew from sources i trust that the seal hunt was no bad thing but didnt have the details to prove it. You did a good job.

My father in law has hunted seals since he was a child, and it's obviously an important tradition for him and his colleagues. He even invented a device for stretching their skins which turned out to be very similar to the method used by the natives in greenland
I'm glad I could be of service herm and thanx.

Your father inlaw sounds like a decent, salt of the earth type bloke.
 

tamarin

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Ouch, Bear! I just think biodiversity is the issue of the century. Anything that affects that or shows humankind in a less complimentary light is right at the top of the list for me. How can we ever put pressure on the Japanese for their whaling (again, a practice of long tradition) if our own house isn't in order?
 

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Ouch, Bear! I just think biodiversity is the issue of the century. Anything that affects that or shows humankind in a less complimentary light is right at the top of the list for me. How can we ever put pressure on the Japanese for their whaling (again, a practice of long tradition) if our own house isn't in order?
One would have to see it as "out of order" to make that distinction.

As I see it, the hunt is regulated, policed and the accounting firm. Therefore no dissorder.

If the seals were on the brink of extinction, you bet this Bear would be at the forefront of the loudmouthed and swing paws too and fro.

But they are not, the Whales on the other hand, are a majestice and noble creature, pushed to the brink for nothing more then tid bits of their body. The slaughter of them is a travesty and a waste of the gift. Their numbers dwindle due to the excesses of man, pollution, wholesale slaughter(Now there is an issue the GW crowd can spend some time on and get my respect, pollution, beit oceanic, terrestrial, atmospheric). The Seals fear not the same future.
 

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CDNBear said:
I'm glad I could be of service herm and thanx.

Your father inlaw sounds like a decent, salt of the earth type bloke.

He is. he's a very practical man, strong and not a man to be messed with but with a heart of gold marshmallows. I admire him.
 

CDNBear

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Canada’s seal population is healthy and abundant. The harp seal herd — the most important seal herd for this industry — is estimated at around five million animals, nearly the highest level ever recorded, and almost triple what it was in the 1970s.
Seems interesting that, that the incline in the seal populations seems to follow the anti hunt movement.

http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/misc/Seal_briefing_e.htm
 

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We are running in a larger circle now and we've both had our say. I still think it sad that the moratorium was lifted and once more Canada is seen as a backward nation. By the world community.

well lah dee dah. who gives a flying rats *ss what the world thinks anyway? most of the people in the world would give their right arms to live in a country likes ours but theyd never admit it. we dont owe the world any explanation for what we do here. funny that the only thing they care about is our seal hunt, when many of the other countries can learn a lesson from us on hw to treat people better.
 

CDNBear

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well lah dee dah. who gives a flying rats *ss what the world thinks anyway? most of the people in the world would give their right arms to live in a country likes ours but theyd never admit it. we dont owe the world any explanation for what we do here. funny that the only thing they care about is our seal hunt, when many of the other countries can learn a lesson from us on hw to treat people better.
Despite the seal hunt...
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/03/06/global-image-canada.html