Fisheries minister says Canada backs seal hunt despite market concerns

DurkaDurka

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I personally think the seal hunt is disgusting. However, the Europeans can bleep them selves in regards to this. England, the country where hunting fox's is a sport has hardly any credibility on this topic. Along with the euro countries which only recently quit hunting whales or still do so.
 

hermanntrude

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I personally think the seal hunt is disgusting. However, the Europeans can bleep them selves in regards to this. England, the country where hunting fox's is a sport has hardly any credibility on this topic. Along with the euro countries which only recently quit hunting whales or still do so.

fox hunting's banned now.
 

westmanguy

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I am mixed here.

I believe when we kill animals it should me for the main purpose of meat.

Now I don't got a problem when we kill a cow for beef and then use its skin for leather too.

It puts the animal to full use.

But killing an animal for the main purpose of its skin is WRONG, especially when we can get clothing from so many other sources.

So I guess I will be an animal-rights activist on this one, and we can have Heather Mills and Pamela Lee Anderson scream their mouths off at us again, and we can have all the debates on the US airwaves again. Newfoundland premiere on CNN Headline News last year...
 

s243a

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I am mixed here.

I believe when we kill animals it should me for the main purpose of meat.

Now I don't got a problem when we kill a cow for beef and then use its skin for leather too.

It puts the animal to full use.

But killing an animal for the main purpose of its skin is WRONG, especially when we can get clothing from so many other sources.

So I guess I will be an animal-rights activist on this one, and we can have Heather Mills and Pamela Lee Anderson scream their mouths off at us again, and we can have all the debates on the US airwaves again. Newfoundland premiere on CNN Headline News last year...

The seal meet can be used as animal food. There is no reason to waste it. BTW anyone know where I can get a seal burger in Calgary. I want to support the east coast fishers with my diet. Burgers for sustainability. Lol.
 

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The issue is the morality of a large cull of wild creatures in a modern era. It doesn't matter whether they're all shot in the head or dispatched however, the killing of hundreds of thousands of recently born young mammals over a few short weeks is exactly what it seems to be: a barbaric act by a people insensitive to world opinion and their living in a modern age that's supposedly left that all behind. Shame on the Canadian government and those woefully misled members of the public that support this!
That's a lot of emotion tamrin, but not alot of reality.
If we all lived by emotion alone, the world would be one fuc*ed up place.
Damn world opinion, why is it Canadians scorn world opinion and dawn the flag of soveriergnty when it suits them, only to wail about world opinion when it suits them better?
I don't feel bad about it at all. People kill animals for food and pelts. Yawn. It's a living. Or part of one. I've never understood why so many people get their knickers in a twist over seals, when there are lots of real issues to be dealt with.
Have you ever looked at the baby Harpee posters? They're cuter then a bugs ass. That gets all the tearjerked emotional types to throw logic and reason out the window.
Time for a quick joke........ A baby seals walks into a club....... I love that one.
rotflmffao!!!
Wally, this thread is not for jokes. We have some individuals on here with serious moral ambivalencies. I can't think of anything that should be condemned if the seal hunt isn't. The world has virtually arrived at a consensus on this one and our government, currying favour with the throwbacks on our eastern coast, is simply making us all out to be international misfits.
Excuse me???!!! I am not morally ambivalant. I understand hunting, tradition and the neccessity behind the hunt. I think those that berate the hunters, its defenders and use emotion and name calling to get their point across, could really use some morals lessons themselves.
seems to me child pornography deserves a little priority.

its an animal, motile protein and little else. and as cute a picture it may take for the glossies it would just as soon eat your nose than look at you if you gave it a chance. and at the worst its making us out to be non-conformists which all things considered isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Hear hear!!!
Sorry,......A horny old walrus walks into a tupperware party looking for a tight seal...........
Jebus H fishy!!! ROTFLMFFAO!!!
Wally: "My thoughts on this subject are that the controlled harvest of any animal on this planet for the benefit of man is acceptable."
Well, I guess that says it all. No sacrifice of biodiversity is to be impeded. We all know who's first in line.
There is no sacrifice tamrin, they are not being hunted into extiction.
What do the Royals do for fun now?
Poke surfs and peons.
I will pass on both. I have always wanted to slap someone with a trout though...
Done it!!! hahaha. It's not as funny as you might think though.
 

tamarin

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Bear, the mass culling of the seal makes us increasingly a world pariah. I agree with the world. The government says it's for jobs and to meet the needs of the fur industry and the quack pecker treatment companies in the Orient. Hunting and culling are completely different things. The seal hunt is a stark reminder that despite our protestations of being a just and humane society we're still just a bunch of backwoods whackers and hillbillies.
 

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Bear, the mass culling of the seal makes us increasingly a world pariah. I agree with the world. The government says it's for jobs and to meet the needs of the fur industry and the quack pecker treatment companies in the Orient. Hunting and culling are completely different things. The seal hunt is a stark reminder that despite our protestations of being a just and humane society we're still just a bunch of backwoods whackers and hillbillies.
The seal hunt goes back 10,000 years, all the way back to Europe and the Baltic Sea. It's said to be about 4,000 years old here in North America(though I suspect it to be older then that, that number is based on archeological finds alone).

Whether or not there is a new moniker on the hunt is irrelavent. It is a time honoured tradition, that serves an even greater purpose then mere food and clothing stuffs now.

If you stand against the hunt, you stand against First Nations traditions and the traditions of Eastern Canadians and Canada.

Why are people so nit picky about world opinion? Why is the worlds opinion so important one minute and not the next? This is a soveriegn nation, we are quite capable of determining our own needs and necessaties, without the globes influences.

I fail to see the "inhumanity" in hunting, when the demise of the hunted is quick and the waste minimal.
 

CDNBear

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The posters ALWAYS portray the whitecoat babies. Shooting a whitecoat is illegal and can get you in a lot of trouble. When you hunt seals you hunt the adults, and outside of the breeding season.
The commercial hunting of infant harp seals (whitecoats), and infant hooded seals (bluebacks), was banned in Canada in 1987, under pressure from animal rights groups. Now, seals may only be killed legally once they have started moulting (from 12 to 15 days of age for harp seals), as this coincides with the time when they are abandoned by their mothers. These pups, who have not yet completely moulted are known as "ragged-jackets". Once the pups have completely moulted, they are called "beaters".
So sayth the wiki wiki!
 

tamarin

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Bear: " If you stand against the hunt, you stand against First Nations traditions and the traditions of Eastern Canadians and Canada."

Indeed, I do. I wonder who stood up against the buffalo cull to support... First Nations traditions.
 

CDNBear

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Bear: " If you stand against the hunt, you stand against First Nations traditions and the traditions of Eastern Canadians and Canada."

Indeed, I do. I wonder who stood up against the buffalo cull to support... First Nations traditions.
That wasn't a cull, that was a slaughter.

Perpetrated by Non natives and wayward Natives.

There were no regulations, no laws, just pure sport and no thought of the future.

The seal hunt is a totally regulated event and the future is a susinct part of the regulations.
 

tamarin

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Bear, why would you support Cull Culture? Run amok, it destituted the Great Plains tribes as white rifraff organized the killing of buffalo for sport. Various white trash shot at herds indiscriminately from trains, and the railway and settlement builders hired gangs of frontier thugs to continue the slaughter. I know you're semantically sensitive on this one. Culls are different, you say.
And then Cull Culture had a rich precedent as eastern tribes sold out their people and traditions and warred for fur territory across the Hudson Basin. Culling whatever creature brought them points for trade. Another cull that became a slaughter.
At what point does one become the other? At what point does the practice of either diminish us as human beings?
 

CDNBear

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Bear, why would you support Cull Culture? Run amok, it destituted the Great Plains tribes as white rifraff organized the killing of buffalo for sport. Various white trash shot at herds indiscriminately from trains, and the railway and settlement builders hired gangs of frontier thugs to continue the slaughter. I know you're semantically sensitive on this one. Culls are different, you say.
And then Cull Culture had a rich precedent as eastern tribes sold out their people and traditions and warred for fur territory across the Hudson Basin. Culling whatever creature brought them points for trade. Another cull that became a slaughter.
At what point does one become the other? At what point does the practice of either diminish us as human beings?
You have to have a grasp on the times.

The lawlessness and the lack of foresight in times past does not remove accountablity, but to apply antiquated practice to a contemporary legally sanctioned and regulated event is erroneus at best.

The cull of seals is highly regulated and not only a necessaty, but a traditional source of food and profit. It's a hunt with purpose, if you want to label it a cull, then so beit, but it is a traditional hunt and it is without question, not an afront to the sensiblities of those that understand tradition and the hunt itself.