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Cliffy

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Always interested to learn. Gotta say, though, I prefer our history before the Shemanese.
I was asked by our museums curator why I was not active at the museum. I said I was not interested in "white" history but, if the crap ever hits the fan and the lights go out, I know where I can find all the tools and appliances I need.
 

MHz

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To fit in with the museum pieces you also need to have some success stories of ingratiation despite the racial obstacles put in place. Digital wandering around the world as well as boots on the ground. Rodeos were my closest exposure followed closely by payday at the bars. It was a tossup as to which was the most dangerous.
 

MHz

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No, but they will let the drunk fans on the fence sit on a bareback in a corner of the arena. They probably gain a new appreciation of what a time ride is like. TeePee Creek is not a points event but is the home turf of where the bucking stock comes from for the points events, bulls and horses.

The pervs are getting rode by the animals, what did you think was going to happen?
 

skookumchuck

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Few have had the guts to even try and publish the actual true history of natives. They prefer to publish the lies for money. There are numerous people, like a few we have on this board who are in love with the bullspit side that is advanced by lawyers, movie makers, university mugs, and assorted white hippees.
If the institutionalized (on reserve) natives in our country were taught to try instead of whine by that group we would have little or no problem. My grandfather and his brothers taught our family well, just before and during the great wars, none of them stayed on reserve, none of them even considered anything other than working.
The side of the family that decided to be trappers and guides are still doing that, the side that decided to be in construction may have built your house. The side that decided to be losers are still losers but some have big bucks from BS, others try but cannot stay sober long enough, just like many Irishmen.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Few have had the guts to even try and publish the actual true history of natives. They prefer to publish the lies for money. There are numerous people, like a few we have on this board who are in love with the bullspit side that is advanced by lawyers, movie makers, university mugs, and assorted white hippees.
If the institutionalized (on reserve) natives in our country were taught to try instead of whine by that group we would have little or no problem. My grandfather and his brothers taught our family well, just before and during the great wars, none of them stayed on reserve, none of them even considered anything other than working.
The side of the family that decided to be trappers and guides are still doing that, the side that decided to be in construction may have built your house. The side that decided to be losers are still losers but some have big bucks from BS, others try but cannot stay sober long enough, just like many Irishmen.

Essentially true. You can work or you can live on handouts. The handouts are never as good as pay, and it leaves you at the mercy of your donors. That's not a political position, that's just reality.
 

Cliffy

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But they were so one with nature. lol

That is not necessarily true. Most mega fauna died because of the changing environment after the ice age. There is no archaeological record of the natives of Siberia every hunting mega fauna, so why would they in North America? Also, new evidence shows that people may have lived here before the ice age, and they never hunted the mega fauna to extinction either. Your high school history is way out of date.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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That is not necessarily true. Most mega fauna died because of the changing environment after the ice age. There is no archaeological record of the natives of Siberia every hunting mega fauna, so why would they in North America? Also, new evidence shows that people may have lived here before the ice age, and they never hunted the mega fauna to extinction either. Your high school history is way out of date.

Eagle is able to hold two mutually exclusive beliefs simultaneously: that the Indians were too primitive to exert any control over their environment, and that the Indians were able to wipe out two continents full of megafauna with wood and stone weapons.

You can't fix stupid.
 

Zipperfish

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From which I conclude you've learned nothing about either of them since high school, and probably weren't paying much attention then either.

I used to live close to York (Old York, in Yorkshire England) as a youngster, and loved the history there. Lots of blood and guts and emperoros and vikings and princes and knights. After that, trading beaver pelts just wasn't cutting it for me. :lol:
 

Cliffy

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iHRAAM: Introducing an International NGO Supporting Indigenous Sovereignty


[BRITISH COLUMBIA]: Launched in 1989 and awarded Consultative Status at the United Nations in 1993, IHRAAM serves as an umbrella organization to facilitate and coordinate the efforts of national minorities, indigenous peoples, occupied peoples and unrepresented nations to gain access to international law and its enforcement mechanisms concerning human rights and the right to self-determination.​
In 2011, the Inter-American Commission for Human Rights (IACHR) of the Organization of American States (OAS) became engaged with a Lil’wat Petition initiated by Pau Tuc la Cimc (James Louie), a Lil’watmc of the St’át’imc Nation and drafted by IHRAAM, on behalf of Lil’wat mother, Loni Edmonds, who has suffered serial seizure of her six children by the BC Ministry of Children and Family Development. Significantly, the Petition linked Loni’s human rights as a mother with the greater issue of the Lil’wat right to jurisdiction not only over their children and families, but over their lands and resources, as an indigenous nation which has no treaty with Canada. At IACHR request, Canada has responded four times to the IHRAAM Petition and subsequent Observations. A fifth Canadian response is awaited.
In the interim, Petitioners James Louie and Loni Edmonds met with IACHR Commissioner for Women, Tracey Robinson, at the Renaissance Inn in Vancouver on August 9th, 2013, further to her investigation of the situation of native women in British Columbia.

more: http://www.radicalpress.com/?p=3615
 

skookumchuck

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iHRAAM: Introducing an International NGO Supporting Indigenous Sovereignty


[BRITISH COLUMBIA]: Launched in 1989 and awarded Consultative Status at the United Nations in 1993, IHRAAM serves as an umbrella organization to facilitate and coordinate the efforts of national minorities, indigenous peoples, occupied peoples and unrepresented nations to gain access to international law and its enforcement mechanisms concerning human rights and the right to self-determination.​
In 2011, the Inter-American Commission for Human Rights (IACHR) of the Organization of American States (OAS) became engaged with a Lil’wat Petition initiated by Pau Tuc la Cimc (James Louie), a Lil’watmc of the St’át’imc Nation and drafted by IHRAAM, on behalf of Lil’wat mother, Loni Edmonds, who has suffered serial seizure of her six children by the BC Ministry of Children and Family Development. Significantly, the Petition linked Loni’s human rights as a mother with the greater issue of the Lil’wat right to jurisdiction not only over their children and families, but over their lands and resources, as an indigenous nation which has no treaty with Canada. At IACHR request, Canada has responded four times to the IHRAAM Petition and subsequent Observations. A fifth Canadian response is awaited.
In the interim, Petitioners James Louie and Loni Edmonds met with IACHR Commissioner for Women, Tracey Robinson, at the Renaissance Inn in Vancouver on August 9th, 2013, further to her investigation of the situation of native women in British Columbia.

more: http://www.radicalpress.com/?p=3615


Dragging crap out of radical press says a lot about your view, and intelligence Cliffy. Who writes the anti Jew stuff now since the hero was sequestered and shut up? Perhaps he will find gold.
 

EagleSmack

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Another Ward Churchill... wannabee Indian.

That is not necessarily true. Most mega fauna died because of the changing environment after the ice age. There is no archaeological record of the natives of Siberia every hunting mega fauna, so why would they in North America? Also, new evidence shows that people may have lived here before the ice age, and they never hunted the mega fauna to extinction either. Your high school history is way out of date.

It hurts knowing that the Indians hunted the mammoth and other native species to extinction doesn't it. I know that contrary to evidence it is not PC to say it but it is fact.

Eagle is able to hold two mutually exclusive beliefs simultaneously: that the Indians were too primitive to exert any control over their environment, and that the Indians were able to wipe out two continents full of megafauna with wood and stone weapons.

Looks like someone is having comprehension problems again. What's the matter T-Bones? You cannot delineate the differences between the Indians hunting the mammoth to extinction and not being able to affect the climate?

You can't fix stupid.

We're trying to help you but we are indeed failing.
 

Cliffy

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Dragging crap out of radical press says a lot about your view, and intelligence Cliffy. Who writes the anti Jew stuff now since the hero was sequestered and shut up? Perhaps he will find gold.
First off, Art is not anti-Jew. He is married to one. He is anti-zionist. That you can't tell the difference is more telling about your ignorance. Secondly, he didn't write it, he just re-posted it, like I did.

It hurts knowing that the Indians hunted the mammoth and other native species to extinction doesn't it. I know that contrary to evidence it is not PC to say it but it is fact.
It certainly is not fact and if you would bother to look up the sources of new archaeological findings you would know that. Like I said, your high school history is way out of date, but stay ignorant if you must. It is so Yangee.