First Nations Genocide

AnnaG

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Thats one thing I never saw north of Churchill was snowshoes,when I first went up I allmost brought mine with me and its a good thing I didnt,it would have been like a big NOOB sign.

I did bring big ice crampons for my boots but didnt need those either,the snows so bloody hard you can walk a d9 cat over it in a few hours after it sets up and cyrstalizes in the cold.
That's understandable. It works with the higher altitudes here, too.
 

AnnaG

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There were no bars in the part of the arctic I was in,or booze stores.
You went to the RCMP to order your monthly allotment for "religious" ceremonys.
If you were the town drunk and on the cops black list you went to a bootlegger and paid $250.00 a bottle.

I didnt see just a few natives,there was only a few kablunas at any of the camps I was at,the rest were local Innu from Repulse bay through to Whale cove.

As a construction worker at one camp I partied with the boys some nights,as a camp manager I saw all the booze and drugs smuggled in to camps.
To say there isnt a problem and its just a stereotype is to ignore there is a problem.
Nunavut has the highest youth suicide rate in the world,theres a problem.
People make bars wherever. We had a couple spots in the bush we partied at when I was a kid. They were our bars.
I know there's a problem, but the problem isn't everywhere and with everyone like you imply. That is my point.
 

Kakato

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People make bars wherever. We had a couple spots in the bush we partied at when I was a kid. They were our bars.
I know there's a problem, but the problem isn't everywhere and with everyone like you imply. That is my point.

I didnt imply it was everyone.
There was no bars in any of the small towns I had to fly through,they would be shut down in a heartbeat if there was because you cant keep something like that quiet for long.

I've seen first hand what the alcohol does to the small towns in the north and to the Brocket and Cardston reserves thats are a few miles down the road from my home.
I also saw what the gas cash royalties did to Hobbema,drive bys and crack houses now. I wont even drive through that reserve.

So lets keep throwing money at them and ignore that there is a problem.
 

Kakato

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That's understandable. It works with the higher altitudes here, too.

Im on the continental divide here at home and it sure wont set up like it that here.

If a blow came up in the north and was knee deep in an hour it would be hard as cement in 3 hours.

2 years ago I tried to keep a camp going through xmas,actually I got talked into it by a boss.
They gave me a welder,equip.operator,an electrician,medic,chopper pilot and mechanic,cook and 3 labourers.The place was just getting stuff trucked up to the end of the Nuna road and then hauled over the lake in kamitaks to camp.

I would have to do a walkaround every 2 hours to make sure the generators and fuel truck was running and take note at what had died as you dont shut something off in those temps.
If it died it was then a carcass,to be looked at some other time.:lol:

If the generators died and you couldnt get them running in 30 minutes you hopped in the bombi and chopper and got out as fast as you could.
I loved the sound the snow made when you walked in it,the echo and squeeking could be heard for miles.

YouTube - xmas in the arctic
 

Cannuck

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I posted an article expressing an aboriginal point of view.

What is an aboriginal "point of view"? Do Stephen Harper and Jack Layton have the same "point of view" simply because they are white? Does Clarence Thomas and Rodney King have the same "point of view" simply because they are black? You really should stop while you are behind.
 

Cliffy

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What is an aboriginal "point of view"? Do Stephen Harper and Jack Layton have the same "point of view" simply because they are white? Does Clarence Thomas and Rodney King have the same "point of view" simply because they are black? You really should stop while you are behind.
Did you even bother to look at the whole article? Did you notice where the articles comes from? Where it was posted. Why don't you comment on the article instead of just putting me down for posting it? If you don't have a point of view and are just here to flame, you are the one who is a behind.
 

Cannuck

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Did you even bother to look at the whole article? Did you notice where the articles comes from? Where it was posted. Why don't you comment on the article instead of just putting me down for posting it? If you don't have a point of view and are just here to flame, you are the one who is a behind.

E for effort. Reasonable attempt at deflection however most posters will see through the attempt to shift focus. I take it you won't be answering my questions? Is that because you can't or you don't want to?
 

Cliffy

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E for effort. Reasonable attempt at deflection however most posters will see through the attempt to shift focus. I take it you won't be answering my questions? Is that because you can't or you don't want to?
I said it was an aboriginal point of view, not THE aboriginal point of view. Making it a racial remark is not my intention but it seems to be yours. I think that the article being on the Lakota Nation's web site would be self explanatory as opposed to say the Canadian government's web site.

Besides this, I know you are just trolling and that nothing I say will stop you from dragging this BS game on as long as I answer your childish accusations. So, as far as I'm concerned this is over and you can claim victory all you want. You now are king of the sand box. Enjoy!.
 

Cannuck

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I guess I'm going to take back the E seeing as you refuse to answer a simple question.

For what it's worth, it's not my intention to make your remarks anything. They are what they are. You running away and not willing to answer questions does not make me a troll no matter how badly you hope it will.
 

Cliffy

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Taking responsibility for your post. You had an agenda for posting and then backed off saying you posted to see peoples reactions.

You're not manning up.
I posted it because it was posted on the Lakota Nation web site, because a friend sent it to me and because it expresses an aboriginal point of view on the subject. I also support the Lakota Nation declaration of independence from The US of Aggression for breaking all the treaties they ever made with every aboriginal peoples as well as their point of view on many other subjects. I really fail to see why I should have to justify myself to you or anybody else just because it rubs you the wrong way.
 

AnnaG

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I posted it because it was posted on the Lakota Nation web site, because a friend sent it to me and because it expresses an aboriginal point of view on the subject. I also support the Lakota Nation declaration of independence from The US of Aggression for breaking all the treaties they ever made with every aboriginal peoples as well as their point of view on many other subjects. I really fail to see why I should have to justify myself to you or anybody else just because it rubs you the wrong way.
Although I think what you posted was a bit of an exaggeration and wasn't the view of an aboriginal, but of some paleface, the rest of these people post editorials, too. And what I read that the paleface wrote was an editorial. The Lakota doesn't necessarily have to agree with what it publishes, does it? ;)
 

Cliffy

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Although I think what you posted was a bit of an exaggeration and wasn't the view of an aboriginal, but of some paleface, the rest of these people post editorials, too. And what I read that the paleface wrote was an editorial. The Lakota doesn't necessarily have to agree with what it publishes, does it? ;)

It was an editorial piece but the web site is a bit of a radical site, so I assume they printed it because they support his accusations. Could be presumptuous of me, but I like Kevin Annett. Anyone who continues to be out front on the issues he does even though he has had death threats against him, is a ballsy guy in my books.
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Teriss

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Tamiflu has mercury in it as do all the vaccines used as a preservative. They could have used saline (salt solution) but oh no -that wouldn't be profitable. Instead they would rather endanger people's lives. The risk of future damage is immense-Vitamin C and D are much safer-and they work against viruses. You don't need tamiflu or any flu vaccine-you have an immune system that works although drug co's would make you believe it doesn't. Mine works fine. You can have my flu shots and anything that is free-is not always valuable. This swine flu vaccine is not even tested, or proven to work -in fact the results from one day ago indiates that if this virus changes, this vaccine is totally useless. You can have mine too.
 

YukonJack

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Genocide????

Aren't they still here?

Aren't there at least 15 "First Nations" between Winnipeg and North Bay?

Aren't they empying your pocket at every payday? Now and forever?
 

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Want to read something funny? Read this from 2006

Ben Goldacre
Saturday February 18, 2006
The Guardian
The interesting thing about the Tamiflu vaccine for bird flu that everybody keeps going on about, is this: it’s not a vaccine. The manufacturers even spell that out in their factsheet. It’s a drug, an antibiotic for viruses.
But you wouldn’t know that if you read Paul Routledge in the Mirror, Alan Hall in the Daily Mail, Sally Guyoncourt in the Express, the London Evening Standard, Simon Byrne in the Sunday People, and my own “yikes” favourite, Gavin Maguire, head of the “National Office for Emergency Planning” in Ireland, all of whom would tell you otherwise. I could go on.
 

AnnaG

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Want to read something funny? Read this from 2006

Ben Goldacre
Saturday February 18, 2006
The Guardian
The interesting thing about the Tamiflu vaccine for bird flu that everybody keeps going on about, is this: it’s not a vaccine. The manufacturers even spell that out in their factsheet. It’s a drug, an antibiotic for viruses.
But you wouldn’t know that if you read Paul Routledge in the Mirror, Alan Hall in the Daily Mail, Sally Guyoncourt in the Express, the London Evening Standard, Simon Byrne in the Sunday People, and my own “yikes” favourite, Gavin Maguire, head of the “National Office for Emergency Planning” in Ireland, all of whom would tell you otherwise. I could go on.
Yup.

I posted this in the other thread:
Flu Treatment and Flu Prevention | TAMIFLU

I'm glad that there's a vaccine for ignorance ... it's called education. :D
 

karrie

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Tamiflu has mercury in it as do all the vaccines used as a preservative.

I'd like to see a link to back this claim up please. Not one ingredient I can find for Tamiflu pills OR suspension, lists mercury. Keep in mind, Tamiflu is NOT an injected vaccine as misinformation wants to keep implying it is, and so any link regarding vaccine ingredients is beside the point.
 

karrie

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Want to read something funny? Read this from 2006

The Guardian
The interesting thing about the Tamiflu vaccine for bird flu that everybody keeps going on about, is this: it’s not a vaccine.

THANK YOU!!! Why does this not seem to be sinking through to some people?