Female politician suggests Indian women invited rape with clothing, behaviour

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Well it was nice around here for a week at least. Didn't really think it would take too long for things to go in the toilet again though.
 

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Oh yeah. I forgot. Early 21st century women in the PC feminista-controlled Western world cannot be held responsible, even partially, for their actions. Anything that a woman or girl does today that is wrong, or anything that happens to her, she cannot be held responsible for. It is all solely the responsibility of males, the only people in the West today who can be responsible for their actions.

A man walking down a dark alley at night wearing a load of gold jewellery? It's partly his responsibility when he gets mugged for not showing more common sense.

A man leaves his Aston Martin on his driveway all night rather than putting in the garage? It's partly his responsibility when he wakes up in the morning and it isn't there, because of his lack of common sense.

A young woman walks down a dark lonely street at night wearing nothing but a boob tube and a mini skirt up to her nostrils? She bears no responsibility whatsoever when she gets raped because women in the Western world today don't have to be responsible for anything or use any common sense. Only men and boys today can be responsible for anything and, as such, only men and boys have to use their brains, think, and show common sense.

Yes. I know how it works.

Are you talking about being sensible or being at fault? Of course a beautiful woman walking alone after dark down an alley frequented by sex maniacs is not being sensible, but that is much different from being responsible for being gang raped. Same thing if you leave your Lamborgini unlocked with the keys in the ignition in the wrong end of town after dark, you are being very stupid but you can't be charged with any crime. You once said you were a Mensa member.................was there a coupon in a Corn Flakes box?

Way to go, Blackhead. Now I know why wifey won't come back.

A little respect for the Mensa member, eh? -:) -:) -:) -:)
 
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Female politician suggests Indian women invited rape with clothing, behaviour
Shyamantha Asokan and Angus MacSwan, REUTERS
First posted: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 08:47 AM EST | Updated: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 09:01 AM EST
NEW DELHI - An Indian female politician and activist has said rape victims may have invited attacks by their clothes and behaviour, fuelling a national debate over a series of incidents of sexual violence against women.
Asha Mirje, a Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) leader in western Maharashtra state, questioned at a meeting on Tuesday why a 23-year-old physiotherapy student who was gang-raped on a bus in Delhi in 2012 was out late at night.
The student died of her injuries and thousands of people took to the streets in nationwide protests against the prevalence of rape and sexual assault in the world’s largest democracy.
A number of shocking incidents have since been highlighted in Indian media, most recently the case of 20-year-old woman who said she was gang-raped in a rural area of West Bengal in eastern India on the orders of a village court last week.
Mirje, who is a member of the state women’s commission, said in reference to the Delhi assault: “Did Nirbhaya really have go to watch a movie at 11 in the night with her friend?”
“Nirbhaya”, a Hindi word meaning “fearless”, has been widely adopted by the Indian media as a name for the victim.
She also commented on the gang rape of a photojournalist who was on assignment at a disused mill in Mumbai last year, asking why the victim had gone to such an isolated place.
“Rapes take place also because of a woman’s clothes, her behaviour and her presence at inappropriate places,” she said.
Women must be “careful”, she said, and think if they are inviting assault.
Sexual violence has become a huge social and political issue since the Delhi rape and India toughened laws on sex crimes in March last year. Public anger over the poor state of women’s safety in Delhi was one reason that the ruling Congress Party was wiped out in local elections in the city last month.
SWIFT REACTION
Mirje’s party belongs to the Congress-led national coalition government and her comments caused an immediate stir, with several television reports pouring scorn on her.
“Every time such a statement is made by a public figure it justifies rape,” Kavita Krishnan, secretary of the All India Progressive Women’s Association, a lobby group, told Reuters.
“It’s unconscionable that people in public posts make such remarks.”
Even members of her own party distanced themsleves from her remarks. NCP member of parliament Supriya Sule told reporters she was sorry Mirje had made them and that they reflected her personal views, not those of the party.
“She did make a mistake yesterday. She should not have said it,” she said
While Mirje is thought to be the first senior female public figure to make such comments about the Delhi rape, other members of commissions looking after women’s affairs have made similar remarks about less high-profile attacks.
“Mirje is reflecting what is a much larger problem. There are many others who hold such views,” Krishnan said.
Mamata Banerjee, chief minister of West Bengal, initially dismissed a gang rape in her state in 2012 as a fabricated incident aimed at tarnishing her government.
Assaults have tarnished the reputation of a country that has enjoyed growing prosperity in the past decade and is modernising fast. Still, Mirje’s comments were a reminder that conservative and traditional mores are still deeply held by many of its 1.2 billion people, women as well as men.
In the most recent case involving a foreigner, a 51-year-old Danish tourist was gang-raped in the back-packers’ district of Delhi last month by men she asked for directions to her hotel.
Female politician suggests Indian women invited rape with clothing, behaviour | World | News | Toronto Sun
Wow...
 

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you know what, mods, I've had it. I put BL on ignore ages ago when he'd made it clear, yet again, that women were inferior. Women are manipulative. Women are a sad copy of men. Women are beneath discussion. Gays should have been wiped out. The filth and bile he spews got too toxic to put up with, so on ignore he went.

but to sit here, and say that women bring it on themselves when they get raped to death after a movie, or gang raped as village justice... This is beyond what I'm willing to sit silently by and let wash up on my shoes. No amount of ignoring it, excuses it. Andem, enjoy the internet traffic he generates you. It's no longer a calibre of traffic that I'm willing to associate with.
here here !!!!
 

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you know what, mods, I've had it. I put BL on ignore ages ago when he'd made it clear, yet again, that women were inferior. Women are manipulative. Women are a sad copy of men. Women are beneath discussion. Gays should have been wiped out. The filth and bile he spews got too toxic to put up with, so on ignore he went.

but to sit here, and say that women bring it on themselves when they get raped to death after a movie, or gang raped as village justice... This is beyond what I'm willing to sit silently by and let wash up on my shoes. No amount of ignoring it, excuses it. Andem, enjoy the internet traffic he generates you. It's no longer a calibre of traffic that I'm willing to associate with.

I would seriously like everyone to think long and hard about how, each and every time they respond in order to "have a little fun" with him, just how much that further encourages more of his filth and bile. And just realize that this is going to end up being the ultimate result.
 

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I would seriously like everyone to think long and hard about how, each and every time they respond in order to "have a little fun" with him, just how much that further encourages more of his filth and bile. And just realize that this is going to end up being the ultimate result.
This what I hate about online discussions. It is a magnifying glass that bring out your true nature that you kept bottle up in the real world. If they are really like that in real life I am all for mercy killing :p
 

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you know what, mods, I've had it. I put BL on ignore ages ago when he'd made it clear, yet again, that women were inferior. Women are manipulative. Women are a sad copy of men. Women are beneath discussion. Gays should have been wiped out. The filth and bile he spews got too toxic to put up with, so on ignore he went.

but to sit here, and say that women bring it on themselves when they get raped to death after a movie, or gang raped as village justice... This is beyond what I'm willing to sit silently by and let wash up on my shoes. No amount of ignoring it, excuses it. Andem, enjoy the internet traffic he generates you. It's no longer a calibre of traffic that I'm willing to associate with.

Hey, Karrie, remember it's only HIS opinion and has nothing to do with the truth! Remember the old French philosopher, Voltaire..........."Although I don't agree with what you say, I'll defend to the death your right to say it".

Having said that he's still a pr!ck! -:)
 

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This what I hate about online discussions. It is a magnifying glass that bring out your true nature that you kept bottle up in the real world. If they are really like that in real life I am all for mercy killing :p

I like reality, and in reality the world is made up of all kinds. There are, amongst what I truly believe to be a vast majority of balanced, reasonable people, some true hate mongers. Now there also may be times when what looks like hate is just a mask of ignorance or even fear, but after a certain point there can be no doubt. They may hate for different reasons, but hate is hate, negativity is negativity. I don't believe we do ourselves or even them a favour by silencing them, but I do think we have a responsibility (overall in the general scheme of society) to confront them. Shine a great big old spot light on them and say "this is wrong and this is why it's wrong". Because that's how change is effected. For us and sometimes even for them.

Now having said that I do also think sometimes we simply reach a point where enough is enough. At that point it becomes our responsibility to stop trying to negotiate because we should have learned by this point that negotiation simply doesn't work with some. That is the point I'm trying to make as far as replying and continuing to engage; it's simply nothing more than failure to communicate at this juncture.
 

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I like reality, and in reality the world is made up of all kinds. There are, amongst what I truly believe to be a vast majority of balanced, reasonable people, some true hate mongers. Now there also may be times when what looks like hate is just a mask of ignorance or even fear, but after a certain point there can be no doubt. They may hate for different reasons, but hate is hate, negativity is negativity. I don't believe we do ourselves or even them a favour by silencing them, but I do think we have a responsibility (overall in the general scheme of society) to confront them. Shine a great big old spot light on them and say "this is wrong and this is why it's wrong". Because that's how change is effected. For us and sometimes even for them.

Now having said that I do also think sometimes we simply reach a point where enough is enough. At that point it becomes our responsibility to stop trying to negotiate because we should have learned by this point that negotiation simply doesn't work with some. That is the point I'm trying to make as far as replying and continuing to engage; it's simply nothing more than failure to communicate at this juncture.

Sometimes a well thought out question shuts them up! I just laugh at the A$$hole. If you get mad at him that just "feeds" him, if you laugh at him that pisses him off because he realizes he's not being taken seriously.
 

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I would seriously like everyone to think long and hard about how, each and every time they respond in order to "have a little fun" with him, just how much that further encourages more of his filth and bile. And just realize that this is going to end up being the ultimate result.
Point taken. Perhaps I should try the block button, too. Let Blackhead spew his garbage to others of like "mind". But that would only happen if all the rational people would do the same.

Hey, Karrie, remember it's only HIS opinion and has nothing to do with the truth! Remember the old French philosopher, Voltaire..........."Although I don't agree with what you say, I'll defend to the death your right to say it".

Having said that he's still a pr!ck! -:)
You're wasting your time, my friend. I am pretty sure Karrie is gone and it will be quite a while before she comes back (unless she decides that Blackhead isn't worth quitting for).

Sometimes a well thought out question shuts them up! I just laugh at the A$$hole. If you get mad at him that just "feeds" him, if you laugh at him that pisses him off because he realizes he's not being taken seriously.
It can be a chore to take him seriously, alright.

All talk of trailer trash aside, attitudes like Mirje's aren't doing good women any favors. The problem lies with men who are so weak of mind and character that they can't control themselves.
 

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It can be a chore to take him seriously, alright.

Especially since he dropped the bit about being a Mensa Member!

It would be most unfortunate for Karrie to leave because of a foreigner with the IQ of a rotten toadstool.

She's not going anywhere, at least not for that reason. She's sensible about most things, just gets a little emotional about women's issues, she just has to learn to laugh at the A$$hole and piss HIM off.
 

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We are a society of laws that came into being for the very reasons these people are now
becoming aware of as their society changes. Women should not be held responsible
because some weak minded man cannot control his actions.

How is it that you find it difficult to grasp? It's not rocket science.

Just as a man is partly responsible for getting mugged when he walks down a dark alleyway wearing gold jewellery, then a woman is partly responsible for getting raped when she walks down a dark alleyway wearing a boob tube and a skirt up to her nostrils.

I just find it weird that some people can't see that. Your PC mind may find this commom sense uncomfortable to bear but you just have to accept it.

You are proof of the theory, gradually gaining credence, that women and girls in the West today cannot be held responsible for any of their actions.

Being out late at night is not
a excuse for other.

I know you're one of those who believe women today don't have to show any common sense in their actions, but I'm of the opinion that until women start showing more common sense for their actions (like men have to do) when they are walking home late at night then the number of rapes will not fall enough. Rape cases will fall in number if women just started showing more common sense.

sadly I don't think you do know how it works. I seriously hope that you have already made the decision to remain single life long. No woman would tolerate your narrow view points unless she was extremely emotionally unbalanced.

That said if I were you I would be taking some lessons on nutrition and how to cook for yourself in a healthy manner and the best way to clean your flat otherwise, you won't see 50.

The difference between me and you and your cronies is that I'm able to show some common sense when needs be. You aren't.

The difference between me and you and your cronies is that I want women to show some common sense by not walking home late at night wearing skimpy clothing to lessen their chances of being raped, just as I have to show commonsense by not walking home late at night with £1000 in my pocket to lessen my chances of being mugged. You don't.

The difference between me and you is that you and your cronies want women to heighten their chances of being raped by encouraging them to NOT show the same common sense that we have to show in other walks of life. I want them to show common sense to lessen their chances of being raped.

Basically you and your cronies' Canadian-style political correctness just encourages rape.

And what does that say about you?
 
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How is it that you find it difficult to grasp? It's not rocket science.

Just as a man is partly responsible for getting mugged when he walks down a dark alleyway wearing gold jewellery, then a woman is partly responsible for getting raped when she walks down a dark alleyway wearing a boob tube and a skirt up to her nostrils.

I just find it weird that some people can't see that. Your PC mind may find this commom sense uncomfortable to bear but you just have to accept it.
Like I said, show anything that says that girl on the bus was wearing a tube top and mini and you have a point. Till then you are just full of sh|t.

You are proof of the theory, gradually gaining credence, that women and girls in the West today cannot be held responsible for any of their actions.
Nah. You are just mis-stating the issue and looking for excuses for barbarism and lack of character.



I know you're one of those who believe women today don't have to show any common sense in their actions, but I'm of the opinion that until women start showing more common sense for their actions (like men have to do) when they are walking home late at night then the number of rapes will not fall enough. Rape cases will fall in number if women just started showing more common sense.
You know, for someone that claims to hate Islam, you are sounding like some of Islam's most fundamental proponents. Perhaps you think women anywhere should be wearing niqabs, burkas, etc. too.

The difference between me and your cronies is that I'm able to show some common sense when needs be. You aren't.
Common sense once told people the Earth was flat and the center of the universe.

The difference between me and you and your cronies is that I want women to show some common sense by not walking home late at night wearing skimpy clothing to lessen their chances of being raped, just as I have to show commonsense by not walking home late at night with £1000 in my pocket to lessen my chances of being mugged. You don't.
The girl was on a bus with her boyfriend and probably wearing clothes appropriate to be in a theater watching a movie. She was not walking home late at night wearing skimpy clothing.
The women around here don't behave like you suggest either. Even the young ones only wear clothing like that to clubs. And Indian culture and tradition still frowns upon women skantily dressed. Try to grow up sometime in the next decade or two.

The difference between me and you is that you and your cronies want women to heighten their chances of being raped by encouraging them to NOT show the same common sense that we have to show in other walks of life. I want them to show common sense to lessen their chances of being raped.

Basically you and your cronies' Canadian-style political correctness just encourages rape.

And what does that say about you?
Nah, the difference between me and you is that I am rational and you are not. lol You're just a simple-minded apologist for men without any self-control or respect.
 
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Hey, Karrie, remember it's only HIS opinion and has nothing to do with the truth! Remember the old French philosopher, Voltaire..........."Although I don't agree with what you say, I'll defend to the death your right to say it".

Having said that he's still a pr!ck! -:)
I wonder what he would say if he was a woman reading about what had happened ?

I like reality, and in reality the world is made up of all kinds. There are, amongst what I truly believe to be a vast majority of balanced, reasonable people, some true hate mongers. Now there also may be times when what looks like hate is just a mask of ignorance or even fear, but after a certain point there can be no doubt. They may hate for different reasons, but hate is hate, negativity is negativity. I don't believe we do ourselves or even them a favour by silencing them, but I do think we have a responsibility (overall in the general scheme of society) to confront them. Shine a great big old spot light on them and say "this is wrong and this is why it's wrong". Because that's how change is effected. For us and sometimes even for them.

Now having said that I do also think sometimes we simply reach a point where enough is enough. At that point it becomes our responsibility to stop trying to negotiate because we should have learned by this point that negotiation simply doesn't work with some. That is the point I'm trying to make as far as replying and continuing to engage; it's simply nothing more than failure to communicate at this juncture.
I unfortunately don't fully agree as well said that you put it. The bottom line is people are just dark and deeply rooted , only in a near death situation will they open their eyes.
 

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Didn't we have this discussion in N. America about 25 years ago, and come to the legal conclusion it was BS ?


"Rapes take place also because of a woman’s clothes, her behaviour and her presence at inappropriate places,” she said.
Women must be “careful”, she said, and think if they are inviting assault."


Sick making garbage.


Especially when Indian women are known to be very conservative, and are usually well covered in public. Generalization I know.


whatever.


Pack a pistol gals, and use it if yez hafta.