Federal Trade Minister Mary Ng broke ethics rules over contract to friend, commissioner rules

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Yet another liberal scandal of giving contracts to friends or family.
 

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Yet another liberal scandal of giving contracts to friends or family.
How else would they get kick backs ?
 

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What party is she with again? Is it the Bloc? Nope….maybe a Green MP? Nope… but surely she must be one of those dirty conservatives? Nope….nope…gotta be an NDP’er then for Sure!!

Nope….Good thing Bill, C-11 isn’t through yet, or this might be miss information or disinformation, so it wouldn’t be allowed to be published as it would be fake news.
 

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In the House, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre pressed Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on whether Ng would be required to return the money paid to Alvaro's firm.

Trudeau sidestepped the question, instead making a statement about a byelection win in Ontario for the Liberals on Monday night.

Sounds about right…for Trudeau I mean.
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In the House, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre pressed Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on whether Ng would be required to return the money paid to Alvaro's firm.

Trudeau sidestepped the question, instead making a statement about a byelection win in Ontario for the Liberals on Monday night.

Sounds about right…for Trudeau I mean.
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Political science 101 taught at your local university and hired by your local constituency and party apparatchik.
 

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Trade Minister Mary Ng stood up in the House of Commons and apologized for steering a contract to a friend.
“I take full responsibility for my actions,” she said.

But no, she didn’t.

Taking full responsibility for this kind of thing means resigning from cabinet. That’s what Art Eggleton had to do under very similar circumstances 20 years ago. Why isn’t Ms. Ng resigning now?

The obvious answer is because she's liberal. And the public hasn't been punishing the liberals for any ethics violations. Hell trudeau is up to, what, 3? 4? official convictions along those lines? Of course politicians will just break the law and pocket money if there's no consequence.
 

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OTTAWA — It is hardly surprising that Mary Ng saw nothing wrong with the patronage contracts awarded on two occasions to her friend, Amanda Alvaro.

After all, the international trade minister became an MP thanks to the patronage of her close friendship with the prime minister’s chief of staff, Katie Telford.

Aside from the hypocrisy — Trudeau was elected on a commitment to open up the nomination process — it was an early indication of the cronyism that has become a hallmark of this government.

Liberals are quick to excuse lack of transparency and abuse of process by claiming that their motives are pure — in this case, Ng wanted media training at the onset of the pandemic from someone whose expertise she trusted; in the case of her nomination, Telford and Trudeau wanted to promote to cabinet a Chinese Canadian, but it would be extremely bad mannered of Trudeau to fire or demote ministers who have been admonished by the ethics commissioner, given his own rap sheet.

In 2017, the previous ethics commissioner, Mary Dawson, found the prime minister guilty of breaching the Conflict of Interest Act for taking a vacation on a private island in the Bahamas owned by the Aga Khan. At the time, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said it seemed like there were two worlds: “One world where everyone else lives, where people struggle to make ends meet. And then there’s the other world, where people who are wealthy and well-connected and powerful think the laws don’t apply to them.”

Trudeau proved that the culture of impunity was alive and kicking in 2019, when he was again found to have contravened the Conflict of Interest Act by the ethics commissioner in the SNC-Lavalin scandal. In this instance, Dion ruled he crossed the line of prosecutorial independence in the interests of political advantage.

Again, it is not surprising that ministers have become comfortable breaking the rules so blatantly — there are no consequences for doing so. The ethics commissioner is limited to imposing fines of up to $500 and in this case he does not appear to have done even that.

If there is to be the ultimate sanction, it will have to be handed down by voters.

Shady deals with friends and insiders have always been a vulnerable heel for the Liberal party. Meanwhile, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre told his caucus on Wednesday that their job is “always to stand on the side of the common people.”

It is not a contrast that looks good on Ng, Trudeau or the Liberals. Oh well, the ball is in your court Jagmeet. With so much hot air and wind, Jagmeet Singh must be beloved by balloonists and sailors. But if the NDP leader wants to be taken seriously, it’s time he stopped the bluster.

Singh is one of the most powerful men in Parliament. He wields an enormously big stick — namely the power of life and death over this sitting Parliament. It is within his power — at any time — to withdraw support from the Liberal party, making an election all but inevitable.

On Sunday, Singh told CTV News that he wasn’t planning on pulling out of the confidence-and-supply agreement that was keeping the Liberals in power.
 
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Singh is one of the most powerful men in Parliament. He wields an enormously big stick — namely the power of life and death over this sitting Parliament. It is within his power — at any time — to withdraw support from the Liberal party, making an election all but inevitable.

On Sunday, Singh told CTV News that he wasn’t planning on pulling out of the confidence-and-supply agreement that was keeping the Liberals in power.
Singh needs to improve his numbers before pulling the plug. He needs one more "big supply" to make any ground. He is going to have to start backing trade unions, skilled immigration certification, the O&G sector shifting to blue hydrogen and kissing rural ass.
 

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Again, it is not surprising that ministers have become comfortable breaking the rules so blatantly — there are no consequences for doing so.
Exactly. And the article is right that while it's the voters job to hold them responsible ultimatley (and they've failed) it's also the opposition, and the ndp has failed horribly in that role.
 

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Singh needs to improve his numbers before pulling the plug. He needs one more "big supply" to make any ground. He is going to have to start backing trade unions, skilled immigration certification, the O&G sector shifting to blue hydrogen and kissing rural ass.
I'm not sure that will help. The libs are already doing a lot of that so it's a competative game and the libs can always say 'yeah, but we'll actually be in power' whereas the best the ndp can say is 'yeah, but we'll actually be keeping the libs in power".

PP has kind of squeezed him out of the 'common man' market, which is nothing short of astounding, and taken the youth vote and he's got nothing to win them back with. He's gone way too hard on the 'city folk' issues and really has nothing to offer rural people (other than opposing the hunting gun ban, which he's been little lukewarm over. He's got to lean into that). Trudeau has the unions all sewn up and they've very strongly supported him and he's paid them back in large amounts. And the ndp isn't able to offer gov't employment contracts or hire more people. ANd for those who didn't notice a LOT of those 'jobs' which helped drive down unemployment were gov't jobs. like - a VERY healthy percent. Justin's been hiring.

Healthcare is an issue that the libs are falling on right now and so the ndp is putting all it's energy into that and we'll see how that pans out for them, but really they just don't have a lot of room or power to expand anywhere else. they've squandered the 'working class vote' by focusing on being woke, they've made themselves irrelevant by signing on with the libs, they've lost the unions which were their traditional bread and butter.
 

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Liberals have Unifor (ONifor) backing after losing billions and billions in pension funds derivatives and "green" stupidity like whirlygigs and cap and trade ponzi bullshit.

CUPE, Nurses, and trades go to NDP.
 

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Singh needs to improve his numbers before pulling the plug. He needs one more "big supply" to make any ground. He is going to have to start backing trade unions, skilled immigration certification, the O&G sector shifting to blue hydrogen and kissing rural ass.
All the things a city kid is against. There is a huge battle shaping up between trade unions and government unions over job destruction by foolish green laws that clueless city people force on the working parts of the country.
 

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CUPE, Nurses, and trades go to NDP.
Historically, but in the last few elections they've put their weight more behind the libs. Even provincially we've seen movement there, with the unions getting behind the PC of all people for ford's last go around.

Unions get that the ndp can't help them federally. The libs moved to the left with trudeau and was able to snatch up some serious union support. So that's another traditional source of support for the ndp that they're struggling to hold.
 
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Political science 101 taught at your local university and hired by your local constituency and party apparatchik.
You know what else used to be basic 101 political discourse....offering your resignation when found to have crossed the line into corrupt behavior. the Liberals have completely abandoned honorable conduct and unabashedly normalized corruption in their party. Liberal malfeasance is completely unsurprising and actually expected at this point.
 

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Again, it is not surprising that ministers have become comfortable breaking the rules so blatantly — there are no consequences for doing so. The ethics commissioner is limited to imposing fines of up to $500 and in this case he does not appear to have done even that.

If there is to be the ultimate sanction, it will have to be handed down by voters.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Oh, this was supposed to be a serious proposition. Dream on.

Canadian voters won't sanction Trudeau liberals, they actually crave corruption and abuse of power. None of this banana-republic bullshit is really even the fault of the current government, Canada voted for it...three times.
 
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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Oh, this was supposed to be a serious proposition. Dream on.

Canadian voters won't sanction Trudeau liberals, they actually crave corruption and abuse of power. None of this banana-republic bullshit is really even the fault of the current government, Canada voted for it...three times.
The east voted for it three times. ANd a few ridings in the west that are over represented by rich OntariOWE retirees.
 
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At the end of the day, we either need to have some species of recall legislation or for the ethics commish to have REAL teeth in order to stop this crap.

Recall almost never results in an actual recall of the mp but the hassle fighting it and the massive negative attention it brings can either force them to step down or at the very least make others very reluctant to do something they might get caught at. IT's bad for the party and the candidate and is the last thing you want to be in the papers for a year because it does take a lot of effort to fight off. So that does achieve a goal.

or, give the watchdog the ability to fine up to 60,000 dollars each for the MP, the riding association and the party. And the right to force a byelection after a second lifetime 'conviction'. Do you think trudeau would have been so eager to break the rules if he knew it would cost 60 grand AND he'd have to defend his seat after the second time he did it? That'd be twice now he'd have gone to byelections.
 

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At the end of the day, we either need to have some species of recall legislation or for the ethics commish to have REAL teeth in order to stop this crap.

Recall almost never results in an actual recall of the mp but the hassle fighting it and the massive negative attention it brings can either force them to step down or at the very least make others very reluctant to do something they might get caught at. IT's bad for the party and the candidate and is the last thing you want to be in the papers for a year because it does take a lot of effort to fight off. So that does achieve a goal.

or, give the watchdog the ability to fine up to 60,000 dollars each for the MP, the riding association and the party. And the right to force a byelection after a second lifetime 'conviction'. Do you think trudeau would have been so eager to break the rules if he knew it would cost 60 grand AND he'd have to defend his seat after the second time he did it? That'd be twice now he'd have gone to byelections.
Take away their solid gold pensions for cheating or lying.
 

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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Oh, this was supposed to be a serious proposition. Dream on.

Canadian voters won't sanction Trudeau liberals, they actually crave corruption and abuse of power. None of this banana-republic bullshit is really even the fault of the current government, Canada voted for it...three times.
Why is there no mention of donations to various liberal party entities from the recipient?
 
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