Fed up with Islam Yet???

[WindWalker]

Fed up with Islam?

Quite frankly I'm fed up with all religion. Have been for many years. I just can't muster up the blind faith required whenever a logical question is presented to the religious.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Yep, I'm pretty much fed up with Islam.

Just like I got fed up with Christianity years ago for it's murders, abductions, rampant child abuse, extortion, embezzlement, vandalism, and a whole laundry list of other crimes.

 

[Colpy]

Yep, I'm pretty much fed up with Islam.

Just like I got fed up with Christianity years ago for it's murders, abductions, rampant child abuse, extortion, embezzlement, vandalism, and a whole laundry list of other crimes.

Here's the difference:

The founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, whom Christians are to emulate never murdered anyone, never abducted anyone, never engaged in child abuse, never extorted anything from anyone, nor did He engage in any other "crimes" as we understand them. His policy on women and adultery was "let him who has not sinned cast the first stone".

The founder of Islam, Mohammed, whom Muslims are to emulate, murdered thousands, raped, pillaged, and robbed his way across the Arab Peninsula, engaged in sex with a 9 year old girl, and was a genocidal psychotic lunatic.

BIG difference.

 

[darkbeaver]

Here's the difference:

The founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, whom Christians are to emulate never murdered anyone, never abducted anyone, never engaged in child abuse, never extorted anything from anyone, nor did He engage in any other "crimes" as we understand them. His policy on women and adultery was "let him who has not sinned cast the first stone".

The founder of Islam, Mohammed, whom Muslims are to emulate, murdered thousands, raped, pillaged, and robbed his way across the Arab Peninsula, engaged in sex with a 9 year old girl, and was a genocidal psychotic lunatic.

BIG difference.

We have to assume that you were a witness to these events eh.

PS Krast, Jesse, Christ, Krishna never occupied a meat bag on this planet or any other. Both the Muslim and Christian religions are the constructs of crafty Hebrew scribes. Don't feel bad you're not the first to be conned by that crew.

 

[DaSleeper]

Says the man with the tin foil hat.....................:roll:

 

[darkbeaver]

Says the man with the tin foil hat.....................:roll:

How you doing today DaComa? I can dig around for awhile and post links to the very paragraphs of which I speak and you can do nothing but make a fool of yourself with the tin foil hat reference. Tin foil hasn't been sold in NA since Nov 23rd 1937 when it was rationed for war materials.

See Lord Beaverbrooks war diaries. I do have a couple of rolls I bought at auction some years ago. You may make inquiries about purchases if you like.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Here's the difference:

The founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, whom Christians are to emulate never murdered anyone, never abducted anyone, never engaged in child abuse, never extorted anything from anyone, nor did He engage in any other "crimes" as we understand them. His policy on women and adultery was "let him who has not sinned cast the first stone".

The founder of Islam, Mohammed, whom Muslims are to emulate, murdered thousands, raped, pillaged, and robbed his way across the Arab Peninsula, engaged in sex with a 9 year old girl, and was a genocidal psychotic lunatic.

BIG difference.

Pardon me, but I don't see a big difference.

Could you explain to me exactly the difference between a vicious, murderous, genocidal religion whose founder was a great guy and a vicious, murderous, genocidal religion whose founder was a rotten guy?

Are you saying that the people murdered, maimed, tortured, abused, robbed, and raped by Christians are somehow LESS murdered, maimed, tortured, abused, robbed, and raped because Jesus was a swell guy?

 

[DaSleeper]

How you doing today DaComa? I can dig around for awhile and post links to the very paragraphs of which I speak and you can do nothing but make a fool of yourself with the tin foil hat reference. Tin foil hasn't been sold in NA since Nov 23rd 1937 when it was rationed for war materials.

See Lord Beaverbrooks war diaries. I do have a couple of rolls I bought at auction some years ago. You may make inquiries about purchases if you like.

McCloud - YouTube

 

[darkbeaver]

Pardon me, but I don't see a big difference.

Could you explain to me exactly the difference between a vicious, murderous, genocidal religion whose founder was a great guy and a vicious, murderous, genocidal religion was a rotten guy?

Are you saying that the people murdered, maimed, tortured, abused, robbed, and raped by Christians are somehow LESS murdered, maimed, tortured, abused, robbed, and raped because Jesus was a swell guy?

That's exactly what he is saying and insulting the literate posters at the same time.

 

[Colpy]

Pardon me, but I don't see a big difference.

Could you explain to me exactly the difference between a vicious, murderous, genocidal religion whose founder was a great guy and a vicious, murderous, genocidal religion whose founder was a rotten guy?

Are you saying that the people murdered, maimed, tortured, abused, robbed, and raped by Christians are somehow LESS murdered, maimed, tortured, abused, robbed, and raped because Jesus was a swell guy?

Too easy:

"Vicious, murderous, genocidal" people or organizations are acting outside all of the principles of Christianity, and are acting completely against the example of the founder of the religion, so their claim to be "Christian" is a lie. That simple. Fred Phelps is obviously not a Christian, as he violates every tenet of Christian philosophy.

"Vicious, murderous, genocidal" people engaged in jihad or child abuse are completely in compliance with the basic philosophy of Islam, and are following the example of Mohammed, and so are still Muslim.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Too easy:

"Vicious, murderous, genocidal" people or organizations are acting outside all of the principles of Christianity, and are acting completely against the example of the founder of the religion, so their claim to be "Christian" is a lie. That simple. Fred Phelps is obviously not a Christian, as he violates every tenet of Christian philosophy.

"Vicious, murderous, genocidal" people engaged in jihad or child abuse are completely in compliance with the basic philosophy of Islam, and are following the example of Mohammed, and so are still Muslim.

Too easy:

The "vicious, murderous, genocidal" people and organizations were often acting with the complicity, sometimes with the express approval, and occasionally at the direct orders of the leaders of Christianity.

The only difference between a fatwa and the Doctrine of Discovery is that Muslims following those fatwas haven't succeeded yet.

Further, the Bible contains many, many acts, directly ordered, or even committed, by God that would make any civilised person vomit. As does the Qu'ran, which also contains admonitions to Muslims to practice love, honour, and charity.

I've read both documents. Have you?

Not that it matters. As it says in the Bible "by their fruits ye shall know them." Matthew 7:20.

I personally experienced the fruits of Christians many places, most particularly at Chilocco Indian School in Oklahoma.

You may have some abstract grievance with Muslims, but I'll bet no Muslim has ever done you direct harm in the name of Islam. I, on the other hand, have experienced substantial direct harm from Christians who were acting in the name of Christianity (specifically, they were "beating the Devil out" of me). Frequently misquoting Proverbs 23:13 and Hebrews 12:6-7 whilst doing so. Just as Christians throughout the ages have quoted the Bible to justify their insane viciousness in everything from holy wars to massive child abuse to genocide to murdering doctors.

So pardon me for not thinking much of Christianity.

The good news is that, despite my track record with Christians, I take each as I find him. Some are wonderful people, most are pretty ordinary. Some are horrible. Much like the Muslims I have known.

You might want to consider looking at Muslims the same way. Just a thought.

 

[petros]

nor did He engage in any other "crimes" as we understand them.

Bad mouthing Jews and Hared got him where, a room at the Holiday Inn?

 

[Colpy]

 

[petros]

Would it have ended like this had they gone Soviet?

Was it worth it to fight the Soviets in a proxy war?

 

[Colpy]

Those Moderate Muslims! - Small Dead Animals

Would it have ended like this had they gone Soviet?

Was it worth it to fight the Soviets in a proxy war?

Excellent questions, and the answer is I don't know.

 

[DaSleeper]

Should Canada revoke the passports of Canadians of convenience found guilty of terrorism????

Canadian suspects in Algeria terrorist attack reveal the harm ‘travelling jihadists’ may inflict (with video)

 

[petros]

I doubt two guys who turned themselves into flying soup are going to need their passport DaSleeper.

 

[DaSleeper]

I doubt two guys who turned themselves into flying soup are going to need their passport DaSleeper.

Couldn't you realise that I was using the link as the most recent example of Canadian bred terrorists...
Just for you....the next time I will dot the i's and cross the T's .....OKay?

 

[petros]

Should we send their vapour stain to Gitmo? Where would we bury the survivors?

 

[DaSleeper]

Should we send their vapour stain to Gitmo? Where would we bury the survivors?

:roll: