Fat Kids
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The condescending pric ooops bombast doesn't care about that, Wolfie. He just babbling so he can hear himself, so to speak, and probably enjoys his sedentary lifestyle expecting everyone to think of him as all-knowing and all-wise. lol
Notice that, Sir Joke? It says that research points to almost 20% of people in a developed nation. That is not everyone.
Whatta poncyprat. lol
And that's why taxing the sh*t out of McDonald's and Burgerking makes sense, there will be money in the kitty to treat the fat and sendentary, that way they fund their own treatment. :lol::lol:
That is not treating the cause, JLM. That is treating the symptom. If a patient has a high temperature as a result of typhoid, bringing down the temperature using Tylenol won’t help the patient, but that is what you are advocating. What is needed is to cure the typhoid, with antibiotics.
Thus suppose a woman is overeating because of spousal abuse, either verbal or physical. Your advice will do absolutely no good to her. If she is kept on being abused by her husband, no amount of eating less and exercising more will help her, inevitably she will fall off the wagon. Spousal abuse must be treated, must be eliminated, then she probably will eat right and exercise on her own.
As I said, you approach is very simplistic, like telling an alcoholic to stop drinking, or telling a drug addict to stop using drugs (‘Just say no’, a la Nancy Reagan).
But as I said before, people like to know very simple solutions to very complex problems, that is why demagogues succeed in politics many times. Obesity is a complex problem requiring different treatment in each case, it is not simply advising them to stop eating and exercise.
"Oh, I am here just for the fun of it."
If you'll pardon me for saying so, you must be a sick little man, and I mean that sincerely. If you consider the subject of obese children to be "fun", then I suggest you need to seek some help, and fast. This is a subject that many people take seriously, as they - unlike you - are showing their concern for fellow human beings and trying to discuss possible solutions.
Exhibiting such an utter disregard for other people is deplorable enough, but to call it "fun" is downright sadistic. You really need help.
You asked me why I participate in the discussion forum, countryboy, and my answer to that is for the fun of it, I stand by it.
I never said anywhere that children’s obesity is something to be made fun of. But I participate here because it is fun, and I will stop participating when it stops being fun. After all, if it stops being fun, what is the point in participating here? So yes, I am here for the fun of it, and I make no apologies for it.
But don’t put the words in my mouth, I never said that the subject of obese children is ‘fun’.
Brainless and blind wonder. The cause is not all psychological nor is it all genetic.
Take a look at the topic title. You're in the thread about fat kids posting for fun.
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"Don't put words in my mouth?" Are you joking? Yes, I know you are. I believe you are the one who made that particular habit into an art form.
And if you delight in amusing yourself ("having fun") at others' expense, go right ahead. After getting to know you, it seems to be an appropriate fit.
In the unlikely event that I might expand your humanitarian horizons, I participate in the forum because:
1. I'm trying to learn about various subjects (I don't profess to be an expert on all of them, unlike you)
2. I might be able to share an experience or two with someone, and thus help them out
3. I like to have fun too (but not at the expense of others)
Please give it some thought...Childhood obesity is a serious subject and in fact, has resulted in the death of some children. I maintain that is not a "fun" subject by anyone's standards, and I urge you to consider that for the sake of others.
To give the "Devil" his due, I think there is a little confusion here about the terms symptoms and causes and I think there is one more term that may be useful here- impetus. To me the cause of overweight is eating too much and exercise too little, but I don't want to get hung up on that. I think what S.J. is referring to as cause would be better described as impetus or I would be willing to even go as far as calling it an indirect cause- who really knows or cares. I would agree with S.J. that the easiest way to treat obesity would be to remove the impetus, BUT I doubt if that is always or even often possible. Should a person have to wait for instance until his low self esteem is cured before the obesity can be treated? I don't think so. I think he can however substitute habits while still having poor self esteem and I also think that if he did start doing what's necessary to lower his weight that in itself may reduce the low self - esteem, like when he notices the other kids have quit shouting "fatty fatty two by four." Of course there is one other danger, if he substitutes something else for eating let's hope it's not something nefarious like swinging the cat by the tail.
Why you participate here is up to you, coutnryboy. To me, this is a leisure activity, and unless a leisure activity is enjoyable, unless it is fun, I am not interested. Childhood obesity may not be fun, but that doesn’t mean that I cannot enjoy myself discussing it here.
I look at any leisure activity strictly as fun. If you have some other perspective on it, that is your right (or your problem). But I have said it many times before in the forum, the day the forum stops being fun, I am out of here.
You are finally beginning to see the light, JLM, that reducing weight is not as easy as telling people to eat less and exercise. There is hope for you yet.
You call it impetus, I call it cause, that is semantics. But impetus must be removed. You may be right it isn't always possible. But if it is not possible, usually the person won’t get rid of obesity. Unless cause or impetus is treated, treating the symptom won’t really help in the long run. Even if the person tried to eat less, exercise etc. I think it is highly unlikely that he will keep up with the regime for any length of time, if the real problem (low self esteem, child being abused by an adult, wife begin abused by husband etc.) still persists.
Again, it is same as alcoholism. Indeed, when you think of obesity, think alcoholism, I think there are many similarities. Even if a person swears off alcohol, if the reason he took to drink still persists, he will fall off the wagon in a short order.
So while I agree with you, a person may ideally start eating less, exercising etc. before his psychological emotional problems are sorted out. But in practice, it rarely happens that way.
Anyway, gotta go. Harry Potter is on.
And I'm right on his ass...............................:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:, figuratively that is...............:lol::lol::lol:
In the majority of people, 'that is the right thing to think', eat properly and
get excercise, it's only a very few people who are very heavy because of desease.
It's because people cannot transfer the logical knowledge of how to care for their
bodies, into action, their brains file it all away somewhere, and on they go,
eat, eat, eat, watch TV, eat more, take no notice of what they eat, deny they
eat too much, lie to others about how much they eat, pretend they have a physical
ailment which stops them from excercising, (sounds like me right now, but I did
get out and walk one mile today, even with sciatica).
We have far too much food available to us. We sit upstairs at Q.Foods and have our
lunch snack, and can look down over the whole store and see all of the groceries
on the shelves available to shoppers, and mention how astonished many people from
other parts of the world would be, if they walked into the store and saw so much
food, when they only have enough to keep them going from one day to the next.
Many of those people do have enough to eat, because we all don't need very much
each day to be healthy and strong. Much of the food on the shelves of our supermarkets are unnecessary and useless, too expensive, fattening, and empty
of nutrition.
Just out of casual curiosity, what might cause it to stop being fun for you?