Fallujah: the truth at last How the US murdered a city!!

[Vanni Fucci]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldbriefing/story/0,15205,1435317,00.html

The Bush administration will be judged soon...I fear you've pitched your tent in the wrong camp Eagleshank... :lol:

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: RE: Fallujah: the truth a

You already put that link up, EagleSmack. That it contradicts all of the intelligent analysis coming out of the Middle East and elsewhere doesn't make it the ultimate source you now. There are plenty of other web sites saying similar things.

To be honest... I thought you deleted it as I can't find it anywhere. You have been pretty liberal (how appropriate :lol: ) with the edit button on me today.

Well as you say... Osama is one of the great leaders of the Middle East and this is the law he follows. So I think it should be fair and balanced for our fellow viewers to get a look at what these Terrorist are really driving for. The idea that it is just US Policy towards the Middle East is doing a disservice. I will gladly find additional posts and websites of this nature if you are tired of this.

 

[EagleSmack]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldbriefing/story/0,15205,1435317,00.html

The Bush administration will be judged soon...I fear you've pitched your tent in the wrong camp Eagleshank... :lol:

Hey this an interesting article... but it does not say much. I mean there is no teeth to any of this you know.

Do you mean the war was illegal... like Kosovo Illegal? I do not recall there being any UN Support for that.

You cant have it both ways little buddy. :wink:

 

[Reverend Blair]

To be honest... I thought you deleted it as I can't find it anywhere. You have been pretty liberal (how appropriate Laughing ) with the edit button on me today.

Anything that I've removed I've remarked upon in the post. If you would behave yourself that wouldn't happen, by the way. I have not removed any of your links at all, nor have I altered any of your text without making note of it.

Well as you say... Osama is one of the great leaders of the Middle East and this is the law he follows. So I think it should be fair and balanced for our fellow viewers to get a look at what these Terrorist are really driving for. The idea that it is just US Policy towards the Middle East is doing a disservice. I will gladly find additional posts and websites of this nature if you are tired of this.

There is no evidence that he has any intention of enforcing Sharia Law outside of the Middle East. He has stated many times that his opposition to the United States stems from their foreign policies.

Hey this an interesting article... but it does not say much. I mean there is no teeth to any of this you know.

It actually says a lot. It says your president is a war criminal and so are his staff. It lists precedents that have been previously recognized by your government.

 

[EagleSmack]

To be honest... I thought you deleted it as I can't find it anywhere. You have been pretty liberal (how appropriate Laughing ) with the edit button on me today.

Anything that I've removed I've remarked upon in the post. If you would behave yourself that wouldn't happen, by the way. I have not removed any of your links at all, nor have I altered any of your text without making note of it.

Well as you say... Osama is one of the great leaders of the Middle East and this is the law he follows. So I think it should be fair and balanced for our fellow viewers to get a look at what these Terrorist are really driving for. The idea that it is just US Policy towards the Middle East is doing a disservice. I will gladly find additional posts and websites of this nature if you are tired of this.

There is no evidence that he has any intention of enforcing Sharia Law outside of the Middle East. He has stated many times that his opposition to the United States stems from their foreign policies.

Hey this an interesting article... but it does not say much. I mean there is no teeth to any of this you know.

It actually says a lot. It says your president is a war criminal and so are his staff. It lists precedents that have been previously recognized by your government.

What the article says is that people are complaining... but there is no teeth to it ... know what I mean? So it is the same old

"Down with the US" rhetoric.

Sharia Law requires Muslims to preach this form. It requires enforcement of these laws. Islam by Sharia Law should be spread and all other religions eradicated. Even after 9/11 and that recorded conversation between Osama and that Saudi Cleric said as much...

"This did so much for the spread of Islam. Even people from Holland are asking about Islam. These boys do not know what they did!"

His form of Islam is to be preached and then brought to people by use of the spear. They even quoted that "Terrorism" is a good thing and is taught as a tool.

"We will bring terror to the unbelievers"

That is a quote. I can find it if you like. You Rev... are an unbeliever, as am I... wanna grab an oar... or do you want me to keep rowing myself?

 

[EagleSmack]

I agree that Al Queda does not like US Policy. Because it prevents the spread of their twisted extremist doctrine. That is why they like blowing us up.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Fallujah: the truth a

And it has nothing to do with your occupation of the Saudi Peninsula, the most sacred land in Islam? I certainly can't have anything to do with US propping up despotic and decidedly undemocratic regimes like those in Saudi Arabia and Egypt, right? It couldn't have anything to do with your history of imperialism and brutality, could it?

Oh no...it's much easier to tell yourself simplistic and nonsensical lies like, "They hate us for our freedoms," then dig up a site that backs up what you are saying. It doesn't matter to you that every expert political analyst on the Middle East and world events says that there's much more to it than that.

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: RE: Fallujah: the truth a

And it has nothing to do with your occupation of the Saudi Peninsula, the most sacred land in Islam? I certainly can't have anything to do with US propping up despotic and decidedly undemocratic regimes like those in Saudi Arabia and Egypt, right? It couldn't have anything to do with your history of imperialism and brutality, could it?

Oh no...it's much easier to tell yourself simplistic and nonsensical lies like, "They hate us for our freedoms," then dig up a site that backs up what you are saying. It doesn't matter to you that every expert political analyst on the Middle East and world events says that there's much more to it than that.

My lies...! What about you... The occupation of the Saudi Pennisula!

What a stretch. Have a little respect for yourself.

A few airbases hardly constitutes an occupation and we are there at the request of the Saudis. All they have to say is "Go" and we will go. Libya did it in the 60's.

And there you go contradicting yourself. We do not prop these Govts. up... they stand on their own. We buy oil from Saudi, trade etc as do you. There is a large presence of Canadian business and Investment in Saudi. DO not be so hypocritical.

Tell me Rev... Do you have bad relations with Egypt and Saudi? Is Cananda leading the charge against these nations?

Why not? Are you not the most RIGHTEOUS Nation on earth?

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: RE: Fallujah: the truth a

And it has nothing to do with your occupation of the Saudi Peninsula, the most sacred land in Islam? I certainly can't have anything to do with US propping up despotic and decidedly undemocratic regimes like those in Saudi Arabia and Egypt, right? It couldn't have anything to do with your history of imperialism and brutality, could it?

Oh no...it's much easier to tell yourself simplistic and nonsensical lies like, "They hate us for our freedoms," then dig up a site that backs up what you are saying. It doesn't matter to you that every expert political analyst on the Middle East and world events says that there's much more to it than that.

The second part was the funniest. What was even more funny is that it was in the words of the Terrorist themselves. These are their words. It was not a Pro-US site, it was an anti-West site, an anti- Christian, Jewish, Buddist site. They even bash China in this!

"China stands on the sides and watches all this and smiles. They are no better."

Wow...

But hey Rev. You know what is best for all of us.

Should I have dug up stuff that supported your view! :lol:

 

[mrmom2]

You and Bush know whats right for everybody eagle . Keep on believing there propoganda .Just let them loot your country with there war for profit .Why do all you right wing nut jobs hide behind anonymous ? No matter were I run into you people on the net your all hiding .You should be trying to convice your own citizens instead of pushing this garbage on us .Contray to what you say people down ther are waking up .The lies there being fed .Its not just Canadians that are fed up with Bushs lies its the whole world .Your losing allies fast .

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: RE: Fallujah: the truth at last How the US murdered a ci

You and Bush know whats right for everybody eagle . Keep on believing there propoganda .Just let them loot your country with there war for profit .Why do all you right wing nut jobs hide behind anonymous ? No matter were I run into you people on the net your all hiding .You should be trying to convice your own citizens instead of pushing this garbage on us .Contray to what you say people down ther are waking up .The lies there being fed .Its not just Canadians that are fed up with Bushs lies its the whole world .Your losing allies fast .

Well they better hurry up and get going because we are winning!

Why am I anonymous? Should I be filling out a profile? You want my home phone number?

They are waking up all over! I agree.... almost a Million in Lebanon... Iraq is looking brighter.

Bush slammed Kerry a few months ago in what the Liberal Media stated would be a Kerry victory.

Mr. Mom... you're right, people indeed are waking up. They just are not following your leftist agenda.

 

[mrmom2]

See you don't get it I'am not a leftist .I believe there is no right or left .Its all a scam for the corporations to loot are economys and enslave us .Bush and Kerry out of 210 million people in your country thats all they could come up with for prez .2 bonesmen. 2 bluebloods from back east .Theres something not right there.

 

[Reverend Blair]

My lies...! What about you... The occupation of the Saudi Pennisula!

That's the way it is perceived by the Muslim people, EagleSmack.

A few airbases hardly constitutes an occupation and we are there at the request of the Saudis. All they have to say is "Go" and we will go.

But you've been supporting a Saudi Royal family that won;t ask you to go.

We do not prop these Govts. up... they stand on their own.

You don't really believe that do you? Are you completely bereft of media access down there?

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: RE: Fallujah: the truth at last How the US murdered a ci

See you don't get it I'am not a leftist .I believe there is no right or left .Its all a scam for the corporations to loot are economys and enslave us .Bush and Kerry out of 210 million people in your country thats all they could come up with for prez .2 bonesmen. 2 bluebloods from back east .Theres something not right there.

I cannot believe the Democratic Party came up with Kerry. I used to be a democrat because I was in a Union but when I went on to greener pastures I found that I did not have much in common with the Dems.

I thought that choosing Bill Clinton over Bob Kerry (Bob... not John) was a mistake. But then again it wasn't a bad pick as the Dems just wanted to win and Bill was the greatest politician ever to be Presisident. I could not stand him as Pres. but he was the Teflon Don of politicians.

Think about it... messing with a 20 year old intern, lying about it... and coming out without a scratch. THAT is a GOOD politician.

So I registered "Unenrolled". But for the most part I vote Republican.

I was also surprised that Bush got the nod over Sen J. McCaine in 2000. Funny politics.

 

[EagleSmack]

My lies...! What about you... The occupation of the Saudi Pennisula!

That's the way it is perceived by the Muslim people, EagleSmack.

A few airbases hardly constitutes an occupation and we are there at the request of the Saudis. All they have to say is "Go" and we will go.

But you've been supporting a Saudi Royal family that won;t ask you to go.

We do not prop these Govts. up... they stand on their own.

You don't really believe that do you? Are you completely bereft of media access down there?

Muslim extremist call it the occupation of the holy land. However, like you said... cooler heads prevail and see it for what it is.

Yes, we are allied with the House of Saud even though there are great differences.
We probably shouldn't attack them or cut them off either though... should we?

If there was a violent revolution in either of those countries, the US would not be able to stop it anymore than we were able to stop the Iranian Revolution. The Saudi and Egyptian Govt. stands on its own.

 

[Just the Facts]

Re: RE: Fallujah: the truth a

And it has nothing to do with your occupation of the Saudi Peninsula, the most sacred land in Islam?

That's the way it is perceived by the Muslim people, EagleSmack.

A few airbases hardly constitutes an occupation and we are there at the request of the Saudis. All they have to say is "Go" and we will go.

But you've been supporting a Saudi Royal family that won;t ask you to go.

Isn't the U.S. out, or in the process of getting out of SA? Am I missing something here? Did they change their minds? I thought they were moving to Bahrain or some place like that and just leaving behind a paltry training force for the Saudi's.

 

[mrmom2]

I thought they moved to Doha in Qauttar not to sure of the spelling though.

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: RE: Fallujah: the truth at last How the US murdered a ci

I thought they moved to Doha in Qauttar not to sure of the spelling though.

You both may be right.

I thought there still was some AF Squadrons at remote Saudi Airfields.

I could be wrong. I'll admit it... some here won't, but I will.

 

[Just the Facts]

Re: RE: Fallujah: the truth at last How the US murdered a ci

I thought they moved to Doha in Qauttar not to sure of the spelling though.

You both may be right.

I thought there still was some AF Squadrons at remote Saudi Airfields.

I could be wrong. I'll admit it... some here won't, but I will.

We're all wrong until we reach the pinnacle of knowledge. In the meantime, all that matters is the facts. Just the Facts! 8)

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Fallujah: the truth a

There are still some US military installations in Saudi Arabia, but that's not the point. The point is that they were there in force when Osama bin Laden declared war on the US. Since then they have flattened Fallujah, another Muslim holy city.

The US continues to provide security advice to the Saudi Royal family. The House of Saud continues to be propped up by both the policies of the US government and the money of US corporations, who oddly enough, have close ties to the Bush administration.

Those are facts, Just the Facts. You can look 'em up, you can take 'em to the bank.