Falkland Islanders cast their votes in sovereignty referendum
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You mean 17 of those Argies in the Falklands voted to remain BRITISH????
There were only three votes for other options.
So, to anyone that can subtract 3 from 20 (I guess that excludes you) the conclusion is obvious:
"You're an idiot" is about as much as you can understand.
I don't feel like doing the math but it seems that you're going to need a lot of Argentinians to move to the Falklands to swing the vote. If only 3 of 20 Argentinians voted to leave the Commonwealth... well that says a lot.
It is not as if they can just walk across the border either. That shatters the US-Mexico comparison.
Of course it does.
Now, consider this:
If you were Argentinian, why would you move to the Falkland Islands??
I suggest only one possible reason: To get away from Argentina!!!!
And to enjoy British liberty.
The softest thing cannot be broken.
Yelling at those who will not listen is the way of the infidel.
Congratulations, you have won the war on straw.
There are tidbits of land all over the globe left over from the days of imperialism maybe
but not all. Gibraltar is one that will remain in British hands. The Falklands is another,
even Puerto Rico which is an American possession. I could list a few more but more to
the point the people of these regions wish to remain with what they know.
As for fascist Argentina, at the time that was true but since then the nation has moved
more to the left. I still think it is not a left right thing as much as it is a land claim and no
matter who, the old fascist right wing or the more modern liberal democrats would still go
after the islands if it were possible. They also know the British will defend them to the end.
A hundred years from now the people of that region will be more British that the British in
Britain just like the situation in Northern Ireland.
but not all. Gibraltar is one that will remain in British hands. The Falklands is another,
even Puerto Rico which is an American possession. I could list a few more but more to
the point the people of these regions wish to remain with what they know.
As for fascist Argentina, at the time that was true but since then the nation has moved
more to the left. I still think it is not a left right thing as much as it is a land claim and no
matter who, the old fascist right wing or the more modern liberal democrats would still go
after the islands if it were possible. They also know the British will defend them to the end.
A hundred years from now the people of that region will be more British that the British in
Britain just like the situation in Northern Ireland.
Here's something better to be proud of, 'Inglin, Hong Kongers want back in:
Polls | South China Morning Post
And like the OP, also not surprising.
Polls | South China Morning Post
And like the OP, also not surprising.
Of course history fans know the Real Reason the Briddish hang onto Las Islas Malvinas so tenaciously
Good thing.
If they had become a "country", the Argies would invade within a few years. No link, just an opinion.
Soon Argentines may have something else to be angry about. The Falklands are no longer just an archipelago of sheep farmers and fishermen at world’s end. A promising offshore oil discovery is expected to bring the British territory $10.5 billion in tax revenue and royalties over 25 years.
The Argentines have threatened to sue any company involved in Falklands drilling, but that hasn’t stopped the islanders. The Falklands government is starting a wealth fund to manage the cash. On the agenda: paving the main highway from the airport to the capital of Stanley, improving the port so it can accept larger ships, and reimbursing the £60 million ($90 million) the U.K. spends annually to defend the islands. “In times of recession, it’s difficult for people in the U.K. to justify spending money on a small population on the other end of the world,” says Andrea Clausen, a Falklander who owns a bus company. “But as long as Argentina claims the Falklands in its constitution, the threat won’t go away.”
The offshore oil discovery may generate government revenues of about $160,000 per person each year when it starts production in 2017, according to London-based consultants Edison Investment Research. That’s equivalent to the aftertax income of a top 1 percent earner in Britain, figures London’s Institute for Fiscal Studies, which researches the impact of taxes and spending. Falkland officials in December visited Norway and the Shetland Islands, which have similar funds to invest their oil and gas earnings. They wanted to know how to avoid inflation and poor financial management. The discovery “will no doubt be transformational for the islands, increasing government revenue several times over,” says Mineral Resources Director Stephen Luxton.
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The Falkland Islands Brace for Oil Wealth - Businessweek
The Argentines have threatened to sue any company involved in Falklands drilling, but that hasn’t stopped the islanders. The Falklands government is starting a wealth fund to manage the cash. On the agenda: paving the main highway from the airport to the capital of Stanley, improving the port so it can accept larger ships, and reimbursing the £60 million ($90 million) the U.K. spends annually to defend the islands. “In times of recession, it’s difficult for people in the U.K. to justify spending money on a small population on the other end of the world,” says Andrea Clausen, a Falklander who owns a bus company. “But as long as Argentina claims the Falklands in its constitution, the threat won’t go away.”
The offshore oil discovery may generate government revenues of about $160,000 per person each year when it starts production in 2017, according to London-based consultants Edison Investment Research. That’s equivalent to the aftertax income of a top 1 percent earner in Britain, figures London’s Institute for Fiscal Studies, which researches the impact of taxes and spending. Falkland officials in December visited Norway and the Shetland Islands, which have similar funds to invest their oil and gas earnings. They wanted to know how to avoid inflation and poor financial management. The discovery “will no doubt be transformational for the islands, increasing government revenue several times over,” says Mineral Resources Director Stephen Luxton.
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The Falkland Islands Brace for Oil Wealth - Businessweek
There won't be a slow trickle of Argies into the Falklands. The Falkland Islands government will control who is and who isn't allowed to settle in the Falklands.
If the Spanish didn't invade that part of South America and brutalise the area's native Americans and seize their land then there would be no Argentina at all today.
The Falklands were a different story, however. There was nobody on them when the British arrived there.
Port Stanley, the capital of the Falkland Islands, may be renamed Port Margaret in tribute to the woman who liberated the islands from Argentina in 1982.
Margaret Thatcher is incredibly popular in the Falkland Islands and the Falkland Islands flag was flown at half-mast throughout the islands when she passed away on Monday at the age of 87. Every year, on January 10th, the islanders celebrate Margaret Thatcher Day.
The idea to rename the islands' capital is being backed by MPs and is also attracting considerable support on the islands. A few years ago, one of the islands was named after Craig Jones, a Para who was the last soldier to die in the Falklands War.
The proposal is likely to trigger fury in Argentina, which has been ratcheting up the rhetoric over the sovereignty of the Falklands around the 30th anniversary of the conflict.
Our heroine: Margaret Thatcher with troops in the Falklands in 1982 just after the war. One islander said: 'We owe everything to her'
Margaret Thatcher stands proudly on Victory Green, Port Stanley, during her 1992 visit to mark the tenth anniversary of the Falklands War
Port Stanley is named after Edward Smith-Stanley, 14th Earl of Derby, who was British prime minister three times in the mid-19th century, but never set foot in the Falklands.
Tory MP Tobias Ellwood, a Parliamentary aide at the Foreign Office, said: ‘I would warmly encourage the Falklanders to consider this as a fitting way to remember her legacy.
‘She has been an inspirational 20th century political hero. One way to mark this extraordinary life and contribution would be for the Port to be renamed from one prime minister who never set foot there to another who liberated it.’
Mr Ellwood, who headed a successful campaign to have the tower which houses Big Ben renamed the Elizabeth Tower in honour of the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee last year, added: ‘Port Margaret has a fine ring to it.’
Lady Thatcher meets personnel aboard the Royal Navy destroyer HMS Antrim during her five-day visit to the Falkand Islands in 1983
Devizes MP Claire Perry, who is Parliamentary private secretary to Defence Secretary Philip Hammond, said: ‘I think it is a fantastic idea, as long as the people of the Falklands agree.’
Andrew Rosindell, secretary of the all-party Parliamentary group on the Falklands, said the islanders would want to mark Lady Thatcher’s passing.
‘It is up to them exactly how they do it,’ he said.
‘It could be a renaming or it could be a statue in Stanley. Whatever they do I am sure they will commemorate her in an appropriate way.’
Zoran Zuvic, a Falkland Islands Defence Force member who met Lady Thatcher four times, said: ‘Anything that remembers Maggie and what she did for us is a good idea, and I imagine many other Falklanders would support it too.
'She’s our hero, a great person, and she will forever be part of the history of our islands.
Margaret Thatcher and her husband Denis, who died in 2003, standing on Victory Green in Port Stanley on the Falkland Islands in 1992 for the 10th anniversary of liberation
A group of former British paratroopers who fought in the Falklands War, salute as they leave a wreath for former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher at a street sign in her name after hearing of her death, in Port Stanley
‘We recently renamed an island here after Craig Jones, a Para who was the last soldier to die in the war. If we’ve named an island after one soldier, there’s every chance we can rename our capital after the person we owe everything to.’
Former Falklands policeman Graham Didlick, now a battlefield tour guide, said: ‘I would be open to the idea of changing Stanley’s name in honour of Margaret Thatcher. She was a great woman. It is highly likely that if she wasn’t in power when Argentina invaded the Falklands I wouldn’t be here today.’
It has been announced that Lady Thatcher may also have a statue of her in London's Trafalgar Square.
Read more: Thatcher tribute: Will Falkland Islands capital Port Stanley become Port Margaret? | Mail Online
Margaret Thatcher is incredibly popular in the Falkland Islands and the Falkland Islands flag was flown at half-mast throughout the islands when she passed away on Monday at the age of 87. Every year, on January 10th, the islanders celebrate Margaret Thatcher Day.
The idea to rename the islands' capital is being backed by MPs and is also attracting considerable support on the islands. A few years ago, one of the islands was named after Craig Jones, a Para who was the last soldier to die in the Falklands War.
The proposal is likely to trigger fury in Argentina, which has been ratcheting up the rhetoric over the sovereignty of the Falklands around the 30th anniversary of the conflict.
Our heroine: Margaret Thatcher with troops in the Falklands in 1982 just after the war. One islander said: 'We owe everything to her'
Margaret Thatcher stands proudly on Victory Green, Port Stanley, during her 1992 visit to mark the tenth anniversary of the Falklands War
Port Stanley is named after Edward Smith-Stanley, 14th Earl of Derby, who was British prime minister three times in the mid-19th century, but never set foot in the Falklands.
Tory MP Tobias Ellwood, a Parliamentary aide at the Foreign Office, said: ‘I would warmly encourage the Falklanders to consider this as a fitting way to remember her legacy.
‘She has been an inspirational 20th century political hero. One way to mark this extraordinary life and contribution would be for the Port to be renamed from one prime minister who never set foot there to another who liberated it.’
Mr Ellwood, who headed a successful campaign to have the tower which houses Big Ben renamed the Elizabeth Tower in honour of the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee last year, added: ‘Port Margaret has a fine ring to it.’
Lady Thatcher meets personnel aboard the Royal Navy destroyer HMS Antrim during her five-day visit to the Falkand Islands in 1983
Devizes MP Claire Perry, who is Parliamentary private secretary to Defence Secretary Philip Hammond, said: ‘I think it is a fantastic idea, as long as the people of the Falklands agree.’
Andrew Rosindell, secretary of the all-party Parliamentary group on the Falklands, said the islanders would want to mark Lady Thatcher’s passing.
‘It is up to them exactly how they do it,’ he said.
‘It could be a renaming or it could be a statue in Stanley. Whatever they do I am sure they will commemorate her in an appropriate way.’
Zoran Zuvic, a Falkland Islands Defence Force member who met Lady Thatcher four times, said: ‘Anything that remembers Maggie and what she did for us is a good idea, and I imagine many other Falklanders would support it too.
'She’s our hero, a great person, and she will forever be part of the history of our islands.
Margaret Thatcher and her husband Denis, who died in 2003, standing on Victory Green in Port Stanley on the Falkland Islands in 1992 for the 10th anniversary of liberation
A group of former British paratroopers who fought in the Falklands War, salute as they leave a wreath for former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher at a street sign in her name after hearing of her death, in Port Stanley
‘We recently renamed an island here after Craig Jones, a Para who was the last soldier to die in the war. If we’ve named an island after one soldier, there’s every chance we can rename our capital after the person we owe everything to.’
Former Falklands policeman Graham Didlick, now a battlefield tour guide, said: ‘I would be open to the idea of changing Stanley’s name in honour of Margaret Thatcher. She was a great woman. It is highly likely that if she wasn’t in power when Argentina invaded the Falklands I wouldn’t be here today.’
It has been announced that Lady Thatcher may also have a statue of her in London's Trafalgar Square.
Read more: Thatcher tribute: Will Falkland Islands capital Port Stanley become Port Margaret? | Mail Online
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Seems Argentina is not willing to let go. And if this is actually being shown may bring up another generation that may want to try again to take back the Falklands.............
Argentinian children's cartoon about the Falkland Islands (subtitled)
Some of the English subtitling uses words that they may not understand the effect of in English use so if you are for example, adverse to F bombs, don't watch........
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKkcTpCur7g
Argentinian children's cartoon about the Falkland Islands (subtitled)
Some of the English subtitling uses words that they may not understand the effect of in English use so if you are for example, adverse to F bombs, don't watch........
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKkcTpCur7g