Facebook’s Zuckerberg admits mistakes, outlines fixes

Murphy

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So, apart from Cliffy's computer, which would melt if FB was no longer available, Zuckerberg feels that user data must be detected. I'm sorry, but I have a hard time believing that such a large source like FB - 50 million users - is no longer going to be used for data mining.
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Facebook’s Zuckerberg admits mistakes, outlines fixes

Zuckerberg said Wednesday that Facebook has a “responsibility” to protect its users’ data and if it fails, “we don’t deserve to serve you.”
by Barbara Ortutay Danica Kirka and Gregory Katz The Associated Press

LONDON — Breaking more than four days of silence, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg admitted mistakes and outlined steps to protect user data in light of a privacy scandal involving a Trump-connected data-mining firm.

Zuckerberg said Wednesday that Facebook has a "responsibility" to protect its users' data and if it fails, "we don't deserve to serve you."

Zuckerberg and Facebook's No. 2 executive, Sheryl Sandberg, have been quiet since news broke Friday that Cambridge Analytica may have used data improperly obtained from roughly 50 million Facebook users to try to sway elections.

Facebook has already taken the most important steps to prevent such a situation from happening again, Zuckerberg said. For example, in 2014, it reduced access outside apps had to user data. However, some of the measures didn't take effect until a year later, allowing Cambridge to access the data in the intervening months.

Zuckerberg acknowledges that there is more the company needs to do.

In a Facebook post on Wednesday, Zuckerberg said it will ban developers who don't agree to an audit. An app's developer will no longer have access to data from people who haven't used that app in three months. Data will also be generally limited to user names, profile photos and email, unless the develop signs a contract with Facebook and gets user approval.

Earlier Wednesday, an academic who developed the app used by Cambridge Analytica to harvest data said that he had no idea his work would be used in Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign.


https://www.therecord.com/news-story/8343159-facebook-s-zuckerberg-admits-mistakes-outlines-fixes/
 

darkbeaver

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Those mistakes should send you to prison under western laws, to numerous to mention here at this time,a sane government would execute, it is the American way, the dead have a very different angle.

Zuckerberg should face the mob, burn the mother fukker and help the crops grow, old fashioned gardening
 

Murphy

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Lots of people do. But it's not really about data you put there. It is the sites you visit, spend money at, or polls that you fill out. Then there are causes you support, people you know, and the plaes they visit, support, etc.

When you click on a link, you might leave FB, but you're being followed!

They know what food interests you, clothes, movies, songs, anything that interests you enough to click on. Put this information together, add the information of friends, and they build a portfolio of who and what you are.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Lots of people do. But it's not really about data you put there. It is the sites you visit, spend money at, or polls that you fill out. Then there are causes you support, people you know, and the plaes they visit, support, etc.

When you click on a link, you might leave FB, but you're being followed!

They know what food interests you, clothes, movies, songs, anything that interests you enough to click on. Put this information together, add the information of friends, and they build a portfolio of who and what you are.

I turned on my location (allowed facebook to access) to check in once and forgot to turn it off. When I opened facebook back up when I got home it had a list of places I might be interested in based upon the route I had taken home. Much more careful about remembering to turn it off now as it knows where you go as well (if you let it).
 

Johnnny

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Google does everything you guys mention that Facebook does also.

You can see it in your browser whether you use incognito mode or not. Take a stab at hit.Spend 15 minutes looking at trips to some place like Ecuador and the next time you open up your browser the advertisement panes that some websites use will have trips to Ecuador advertised.

Also you should double check the permissions your phone gives apps. I've found a few apps on my phone that only asked for access to location but when i checked up on the options of the app a few months later it also gave itself access to my photos, contacts, web history etc...
 

OpposingDigit

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--Fareed Zakaria, CNN GPS, May 13, 2012--


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By Peter Waldman, Lizette Chapman and Jordan Robertson
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https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-palantir-peter-thiel

CIA-Funded Startup Palantir Denies Link to NSA — but They Both Make a 'Prism'
By Rebecca Greenfield
June 07, 2013
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2013/06/palantir-prism-nsa/66013

NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans' data with Israel
Secret deal places no legal limits on use of data by Israelis
Only official US government communications protected
Agency insists it complies with rules governing privacy
By Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras and Ewen MacAskill
September 11, 2013
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents

Israel’s N.S.A. Scandal
The memorandum of agreement between the N.S.A. and its Israeli counterpart covers virtually all forms of communication, including but not limited to “unevaluated and unminimized transcripts, gists, facsimiles, telex, voice and Digital Network Intelligence metadata and content.” The memo also indicates that the N.S.A. does not filter out American communications before delivery to Israel; indeed, the agency “routinely sends” unminimized data.
"It should also trouble Americans that the N.S.A. could head down a similar path in this country. Indeed, there is some indication, from a top-secret 2012 document from Mr. Snowden’s leaked files that I saw last year, that it already is. The document, from Gen. Keith B. Alexander, then the director of the N.S.A., notes that the agency had been compiling records of visits to pornographic websites and proposes using that information to damage the reputations of people whom the agency considers “radicalizers” — not necessarily terrorists, but those attempting, through the use of incendiary speech, to radicalize others. (The Huffington Post has published a redacted version of the document.)"
By James Bamford
September 16, 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/opinion/israels-nsa-scandal.html

How Israel helps eavesdrop on US citizens
By Ali Abunimah
November 03, 2008
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article9930.shtml

What is less well-known is that AT&T and Verizon handed "the bugging of their entire networks -- carrying billions of American communications every day" to two companies founded in Israel. Verint and Narus, as they are called, are "superintrusive -- conducting mass surveillance on both international and domestic communications 24/7," and sifting traffic at "key Internet gateways" around the US.
Virtually all US voice and data communications and much from the rest of the world can be remotely accessed by these companies in Israel, which Bamford describes as "the eavesdropping capital of the world." Although there is no way to prove cooperation, Bamford writes that "the greatest potential beneficiaries of this marriage between the Israeli eavesdroppers and America's increasingly centralized telecom grid are Israel's intelligence agencies."
What was the Israeli involvement in collecting U.S. communications intel for NSA?
Israeli high-tech firms Verint and Narus have had connections with U.S. companies and Israeli intelligence in the past, and ties between the countries' intelligence agencies remain strong.
June 08, 2013
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/04/shady-companies-nsa/all/1

Shady Companies With Ties to Israel Wiretap the U.S. for the NSA
In a rare and candid admission to Forbes, Retired Brig. Gen. Hanan Gefen, a former commander of the highly secret Unit 8200, Israel’s NSA, noted his former organization’s influence on Comverse, which owns Verint, as well as other Israeli companies that dominate the U.S. eavesdropping and surveillance market. “Take NICE, Comverse and Check Point for example, three of the largest high-tech companies, which were all directly influenced by 8200 technology,” said Gefen. “Check Point was founded by Unit alumni. Comverse’s main product, the Logger, is based on the Unit’s technology.”
By James Bamford
April 03, 2012
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/04/shady-companies-nsa

Israel Flagged as Top Spy Threat to U.S. in New Snowden/NSA Document
Israel was singled out in 2007 as a top espionage threat against the U.S. government, including its intelligence services, in a newly published National Security Agency (NSA) document obtained by fugitive leaker Edward Snowden, according to a news report Monday.
By Jeff Stein
August 04, 2014
Israel Flagged as Top Spy Threat to U.S. in New Snowden/NSA Document

Meet the Private Companies Helping Cops Spy on Protesters
Promotional materials for private spy companies show that mass surveillance technology is being sold to police departments as a way to monitor dissent
By John Knefel
October 24, 2013
http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...anies-helping-cops-spy-on-protesters-20131024

Israeli Data Spies Have Eyes Focused on U.S. Citizens
Tentacles of Israeli “security” firms stretch across U.S., globe
By Keith Johnson
November 23, 2013
Israeli Data Spies Have Eyes Focused on U.S. Citizens – American Free Press

Why is the FBI outsourcing some of its high-tech work to an Israeli company?
Over the last five years, the FBI has paid $2.5 million to the Israeli company, Cellebrite, for a wide range of services including cracking open and extracting data from locked Apple iPhones and mobile phones from all other major manufacturers, a relationship that illustrates the FBI’s lack of in-house expertise in some areas of digital security.
By Tim Johnson
February 08, 2017
FBI turns to high-tech firms to fill its own knowledge gaps | McClatchy Washington Bureau

How Israel Became a Hub for Surveillance Technology
The group identified 27 Israeli surveillance companies — the highest number per capita of any country in the world. (The United States leads the world in sheer number of surveillance companies: 122.) Unit 8200 veterans either founded or occupy high-level positions in at least eight of the Israeli surveillance companies named by Privacy International, according to publicly available information. And that list doesn’t include companies like Narus, which was founded by Israeli veterans of Unit 8200 but is now owned by Boeing, the American defense contractor. (Privacy International categorized Narus as an American company because it’s headquartered in California.) Narus technology helped AT&T collect internet traffic and billions of emails and forward that information to the National Security Agency, according to reporting in Wired magazine and documents from the Snowden archive.
By Alex Kane
October 17, 2016
https://theintercept.com/2016/10/17/how-israel-became-a-hub-for-surveillance-technology
 

EagleSmack

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So, apart from Cliffy's computer, which would melt if FB was no longer available, Zuckerberg feels that user data must be detected. I'm sorry, but I have a hard time believing that such a large source like FB - 50 million users - is no longer going to be used for data mining.

And how the Dems were horrified that FB was used as a platform for their opponents. Heck, they were bragging about the Clinton Campaign's superior ground game AND their ability to use social media to put Clinton Campaign stuff in touch with potential Clinton voters... i.e data mining.
 

gerryh

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Lots of people do. But it's not really about data you put there. It is the sites you visit, spend money at, or polls that you fill out. Then there are causes you support, people you know, and the plaes they visit, support, etc.

When you click on a link, you might leave FB, but you're being followed!

They know what food interests you, clothes, movies, songs, anything that interests you enough to click on. Put this information together, add the information of friends, and they build a portfolio of who and what you are.

Google does everything you guys mention that Facebook does also.

You can see it in your browser whether you use incognito mode or not. Take a stab at hit.Spend 15 minutes looking at trips to some place like Ecuador and the next time you open up your browser the advertisement panes that some websites use will have trips to Ecuador advertised.

Also you should double check the permissions your phone gives apps. I've found a few apps on my phone that only asked for access to location but when i checked up on the options of the app a few months later it also gave itself access to my photos, contacts, web history etc...


And none of this should be a surprise to anyone.