Enough farting around on Iran & Nukes

[MHz]

Are you suggesting those 30,000 in prison at the end of a war, that was defensive in nature, is the height of barbarism and all victims were Jewish???

No hatred involved, I think they have misunderstood the Bible once again. It is the King who invites them to come to His place rather than they invite the King (that would be the only begotten of the Almighty ) to their place. That's been done, He died at their hands because they had a 'God-approved' Temple. Seriously, 40 years later the city and the temple were toast in importance to God. That is what they could offer Christ, a desolate city. Christ, on the other hand can offer them a true 'city of God' because not only is Jerusalem His, but the rest of the Earth is also.
While I wouldn't take up arms in the defense of Christmas decorations, when my blood and my money is being 'annexed' (given away without my explicit consent), I'm not sure how far down the path I want to go with a Nation's political structure that is actively participating (listening to ) in matters of religion that has something called the end-times. Delusions of grandeur will have them thinking they are God rather than letting God be God. Christians can't even understand the last book of the Bible, their rendition on the other 65 books has to be taken with a grain of salt. The sword of Justice was given to the leaders of the various Nations. Christians are told to obey the Laws of the land (pay your taxes) and God's morality Law and primary Law.
If you are going to claim a territory by the law of the gun or claim a new territory because it is the will of the Gods then there is a possibility of you being a liar. If it was religious then they would not be involved in the politics. Present day Israel doesn't have to be explored any deeper than that. The same method their 'best friends' used the last time the 'took control of some new land' is being used against the same groups in both cases. Goober that is what you are supporting if I am reading your posts right, the only that is going to get from me is endless posts in reply, nothing personal but that sort of thinking gets war crimes charges, for real. Being called a Nazi on a chat forum is squat, you can chatter 'Bush, Bush,' all you want, the day he is arrested is the same day that word ceases to cross your lips, in shame and in fear of being targeted as one of his supporters.

 

[Goober]

Are you suggesting those 30,000 in prison at the end of a war, that was defensive in nature, is the height of barbarism and all victims were Jewish???

No hatred involved, I think they have misunderstood the Bible once again. It is the King who invites them to come to His place rather than they invite the King (that would be the only begotten of the Almighty ) to their place. That's been done, He died at their hands because they had a 'God-approved' Temple. Seriously, 40 years later the city and the temple were toast in importance to God. That is what they could offer Christ, a desolate city. Christ, on the other hand can offer them a true 'city of God' because not only is Jerusalem His, but the rest of the Earth is also.
While I wouldn't take up arms in the defense of Christmas decorations, when my blood and my money is being 'annexed' (given away without my explicit consent), I'm not sure how far down the path I want to go with a Nation's political structure that is actively participating (listening to ) in matters of religion that has something called the end-times. Delusions of grandeur will have them thinking they are God rather than letting God be God. Christians can't even understand the last book of the Bible, their rendition on the other 65 books has to be taken with a grain of salt. The sword of Justice was given to the leaders of the various Nations. Christians are told to obey the Laws of the land (pay your taxes) and God's morality Law and primary Law.
If you are going to claim a territory by the law of the gun or claim a new territory because it is the will of the Gods then there is a possibility of you being a liar. If it was religious then they would not be involved in the politics. Present day Israel doesn't have to be explored any deeper than that. The same method their 'best friends' used the last time the 'took control of some new land' is being used against the same groups in both cases. Goober that is what you are supporting if I am reading your posts right, the only that is going to get from me is endless posts in reply, nothing personal but that sort of thinking gets war crimes charges, for real. Being called a Nazi on a chat forum is squat, you can chatter 'Bush, Bush,' all you want, the day he is arrested is the same day that word ceases to cross your lips, in shame and in fear of being targeted as one of his supporters.

Doddering Man
I do not know where in hell you got this idea that I suggested the 30, 00 murdered were Jewish - They we so called enemies of the State - So the Theological Thugs decided upon mass executions - Children were hung enmasse -
That is the regime you defend - Mass murderers - no more no less than ideological murdering homicidal maniacs who believe they are doing Gods work - they will do anything to remain in power - and you would trust these freaks with Nukes -

Jesus on a Cross -

You are a simpleminded one now aren't you.

Israel was a nation that was destroyed and then reborn - It has happened all across Europe - But because it is Jews then the Anti Semites vent their hatred for anything Jewish-

 

[MHz]

Israel was a nation that was destroyed and then reborn - It has happened all across Europe - But because it is Jews then the Anti Semites vent their hatred for anything Jewish-

They were put into exile, that is a long way from destroyed when God is involved. If part of His return involves stepping on Jerusalem, if He loved them He would lead them away from that place until that danger is past. The end result of being stepped on is a valley several miles wide, being in exile from that is better than being under-foot. He will only be expecting the ones destined for slaughter, that is a different pile of bones as far as God is concerned, one pile is destined for rewards the other for punishments, why would you want your bones to be found in the wrong pile, especially those two?

 

[Goober]

They were put into exile, that is a long way from destroyed when God is involved. If part of His return involves stepping on Jerusalem, if He loved them He would lead them away from that place until that danger is past. The end result of being stepped on is a valley several miles wide, being in exile from that is better than being under-foot. He will only be expecting the ones destined for slaughter, that is a different pile of bones as far as God is concerned, one pile is destined for rewards the other for punishments, why would you want your bones to be found in the wrong pile, especially those two?

MHZ
This is not a discussion on what God wants or does not want regarding the State of Israel -

Answer the questions I asked or agree that they are Crimes against Humanity and as such qualify for Indictment before the Court in the Hague.

 

[MHz]

You almost state that like they have to be guilty in order to be charged. The court can hear many petitions, the PPV revenues would solve all the money problems for the world. Chip everybody named so the world can follow them on the web. Lotteries could be based on the number of times a certain word is said on a daily or hourly basis. The technology is already there. That is why the best PR for Israel would be for the named ones to trot right over to wherever the warrant is and turn themselves in, do not waive the 7 day sentence option and show the same clip as I saw on the tube. They should be back on the streets by that same evening.
Hopefully Diabold will not supply the machines that pick the Judges for the various trials.

 

[Goober]

You almost state that like they have to be guilty in order to be charged. The court can hear many petitions, the PPV revenues would solve all the money problems for the world. Chip everybody named so the world can follow them on the web. Lotteries could be based on the number of times a certain word is said on a daily or hourly basis. The technology is already there. That is why the best PR for Israel would be for the named ones to trot right over to wherever the warrant is and turn themselves in, do not waive the 7 day sentence option and show the same clip as I saw on the tube. They should be back on the streets by that same evening.
Hopefully Diabold will not supply the machines that pick the Judges for the various trials.

Doddering Old Man

I noted that you have not signed in today - Must be working on the invisible or Slither Mode - I think that suits you -

No - You do not have to be guilty of anything but not adhering to the Theological Religious Nuts can get you executed - even in foreign countries,

I also noted that in your doddering around you have decided not to vote - So vote - show where you stand - Sitting on a picket fence can be bad for the arse - Or do you prefer the Slither Mode -

 

[MHz]

Answer the questions I asked or agree that they are Crimes against Humanity and as such qualify for Indictment before the Court in the Hague.

I agree that treason should carry the same penalty as any war-crime, as such the courts should have authority to investigate fully, same as for any allegation that can go back to the mid-20th century .
Iraq should have lodged a complaint with the courts, did anybody? Is their a case #. Was there a UN condemnation when it happened. The views of the various Nations that supported the two sides might need to examined for prejudiced statements and skewed data.

 

[Colpy]

Arguing with a nutcase is like trying to nail jello to a tree.

 

[petros]

Osama bin Laden and nuclear weapons

All PROVEN to be BULL**** year ago. Where were you when the **** surfaced?

 

[ironsides]

TEHRAN, Iran – Iranian security forces fired on stone-throwing protesters in the center of the capital Sunday in one of the bloodiest confrontations in months, opposition Web sites and witnesses said. At least five people were killed.
Some accounts of the violence in Tehran were vivid and detailed, but they could not be independently confirmed because of government restrictions on media coverage. Police, who denied using firearms, said dozens of officers were injured and more than 300 protesters were arrested.
The dead included a nephew of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi, according to Mousavi's Web site, Kaleme.ir. The clashes were sure to deepen antagonism between the government and a reform movement that has shown resilience in the face of repeated crackdowns.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091227/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran

 

[petros]

CIA/Mossad "Divide and Conquer".

Neither group the government or the reform movement will win.

Not Iranian women or men, not you or I, not women or men in Israel, ONLY Zionism benefits.

 

[petros]

CIA/Mossad "Divide and Conquer".

Neither group the government or the reform movement will win.

Not Iranian women or men, not you or I, not women or men in Israel, ONLY Zionism benefits.

Before you go off all goofy and pius, ANYONE can be a Zionist, even Satanists.

 

[Goober]

All PROVEN to be BULL**** year ago. Where were you when the **** surfaced?

As you are more knowledgeable than I in this area I asked what would happen to a single source water supply - could it be contaminated with nuke isotopes - become unusable for ?? How long - I do not know

But chemicals are easier, biological are more difficult - but entirely plausible. Your opinion is?

 

[petros]

As you are more knowledgeable than I in this area I asked what would happen to a single source water supply - could it be contaminated with nuke isotopes - become unusable for ?? How long - I do not know

But chemicals are easier, biological are more difficult - but entirely plausible. Your opinion is?

I asked you to do this months ago which was get an atlas or go to a weather website to find the prevailing wind direction and see for yourself where on the planet the after effects of a nuke strike or bio attack finally settle to earth.

Think about this for a moment. What was worse Goobs? The explosive power of the nukes on Japan or the fallout that still is an issue today?

Now that you know where the fallout lands ask yourself if popping a nukes or bio weapons is beneficial at all to Islamic nations especially Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iran and Turkey and those who drink from the mountain ranges there in like Iraq, Kuwait. Saudi Arabia and on and on and on.

Goobs I know you are an intelligent man I offered you some reading advice a while back the book was The GrandChessboard by Zbigniew Brzezinski. Did you ever get the chance to read it?

I can assume you haven't so once again I'll suggest you read it before you believe the propaganda on the tube. If you read it you'll know what to expect for next 20 years in the news. and EXACTLY how and why the events play out as they do.

It's your future if you want a peek at it please read it.

Mr Brzenski says this is to be part of your future.

"The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values (of Liberty). Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities."

Iis that what you want because it is all part of the US/Israeli Zionist doctrine?

READ man READ, PLEASE!

 

[petros]

"It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." —from The Grand Chessboard, Brzezinski 1997

 

[petros]

Mr Brzenski CREATED alQaeda Goober...... it' is fact.

Read up on this man. he is by far a bigger threat to you or me than any other man on this freakin' planet.

 

[petros]

In 1998, Brzezinski was interviewed by the French newspaper Nouvel Observateur on the topic of Afghanistan. He revealed that CIA support for the mujaheddin had started before the 1979 Soviet invasion. Brzezinski saw the invasion as an opportunity to embroil the Soviet Union in a bloody conflict comparable to the US experience in Vietnam. He referred to this as the "Afghan Trap" and viewed the end of the Soviet empire as worth the cost of strengthening militant Islamic groups.

He went on to say in that interview, "What is most important to the history of the world? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?" When the interviewer questioned him about Islamic fundamentalism representing a world menace, Brzezinski said, "Nonsense!"

Why does he think it is "Nonsense!" Goobs? because he and his buddies run alQaeda and he knows how and when to use them for the benefit of scaring the **** out of good people like you Goober.

Think about this long and hard.....

If he had already created al Qaeda BEFORE the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan just what exactly did he initially plan to use them for?

 

[Goober]

I asked you to do this months ago which was get an atlas or go to a weather website to find the prevailing wind direction and see for yourself where on the planet the after effects of a nuke strike or bio attack finally settle to earth.

Think about this for a moment. What was worse Goobs? The explosive power of the nukes on Japan or the fallout that still is an issue today?

Now that you know where the fallout lands ask yourself if popping a nukes or bio weapons is beneficial at all to Islamic nations especially Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iran and Turkey and those who drink from the mountain ranges there in like Iraq, Kuwait. Saudi Arabia and on and on and on.

Goobs I know you are an intelligent man I offered you some reading advice a while back the book was The GrandChessboard by Zbigniew Brzezinski. Did you ever get the chance to read it?

I can assume you haven't so once again I'll suggest you read it before you believe the propaganda on the tube. If you read it you'll know what to expect for next 20 years in the news. and EXACTLY how and why the events play out as they do.

It's your future if you want a peek at it please read it.

Mr Brzenski says this is to be part of your future.

"The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values(of Liberty). Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities."

Iis that what you want because it is all part of the US/Israeli Zionist doctrine?

READ man READ, PLEASE!

Petros - Hope you and your family had a good Christmas. For the past number of years I have been so busy I did not know whether to shiite or go blind - This summer looks like I will be able to take time for me - Me Time is important and it was overlooked- Being Frugal - A quality I might add - I will call my local used book stores to see if they have it and if not place it on my order list -Yes I am well aware of how they - Business 1st then Govt will be able to literally tell what type of shirt you have on when you walk thru one of those scanners at a store - Scary as hell.

But I am not a believer in a Zionist conspiracy

 

[petros]

But I am not a believer in a Zionist conspiracy

It goes far beyond Zionism. Zionism is a tool like Communism, Nazism, Fascism are or have been in the past.

To change your beliefs wouldn't be hard IF, like you say you had the time to read. Some of the materials that many spout as 'conspiracy theory' come from places like the congressional Record, Library of Congress or this excert from a letter from Albert Pike (Luciferian Internationalist) to cohort Gussepi Mazzini in Italy Aug 15 1871 which is housed in the British Museum Library

“We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm
which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of
savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend
themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of
civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that
moment without compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its
adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of
Lucifer brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general
reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of christianity and atheism, both​

conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

Nilhilists (Nazis) and Atheits (Soviets & Maoists) have done or are playing their roles quiet well some 138 years later.​

Pike and his beleifs are very much alive and kicking and in power in Washington and Tel Aviv.​

 

[petros]

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But I am not a believer in a Zionist conspiracy

Goobs if you removed Judaism from Zionism it wouldn't flinch because Zionism only uses Judaism to achieve goals far bigger than a free and sovereign Israel.