Enough farting around on Iran & Nukes
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Reagan should have been brought before the Hague and tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity. His record has been completely whitewashed and most people remain ignorant of heinous crimes committed during his time in office with his approval.
The above is nothing compared to this:
Then there is this ICJ ruling that the US ignored:
Reagan's policies during the El Salvador civil war:
Salvadoran Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nasty stuff...
I met people who fled to Canada as refugees with the help of the Catholic church and who survived the above. What they witnessed is the stuff of nightmares. Ultimately Reagan is responsible for all these heinous crimes because he authorized and funded these actions. He even circumvented Congress when they tried to stop it. Reagan authorized covert actions which amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity, because of their nature and scale.
If you think Reagan was a good person worthy of respect and admiration, then you are going to have to defend what he authorized. Anyone care to defend rape, torture, murder, drug trafficking...
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The 1988 Iranian Inquisition was barbaric, brutal, insane, heinous... but does it cross the boundary of what is a crime against humanity... (debatable because of their nature and scale). If Israeli apologists claim believe that this event qualifies as a crime against humanity, then the same standard should apply to Israel. Since many of Israel's actions over the years are orders of magnitude greater and more cruel than the 1988 Iranian Inquisition, they should also qualify as crimes against humanity.
If the speed limit is 100 km/h and someone driving at 151 km/h can be convicted of racing, then it makes sense that someone driving faster than 200 km/h is also racing. Yet Israeli apologists would argue that driving at 135 km/h is racing only if the driver is Iranian. Meanwhile Israeli drivers are frequently clocked going more than 200 km/h and they are never charged with speeding, let alone racing. To Israeli apologist, how fast Israelis drive is beside the point because these people survived the holocaust. Anyone who claims Israeli drivers should be held to the same standard as Iranian drivers and arrested for speeding or racing is just being anti-Semitic...
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With regard to the actions of Iran, Israel is beside the point. I understand your desire to shift attention away from your darlings in Tehran. It isn't going to work though.
anti-semitic: a silly misuse of the expression.
"The word Semite from the Biblical "Shem", (Hebrew: שם, Arabic: ساميّ) which means Noble/Majestic in reference to having origin in the sky (Hebrew: שמיים, Arabic: سماء)."
"The Semitic people trace their origins to the biblical Shem & his children which corresponds with Neolithic population of the Arabian plate that has its cultural, linguistic & genetic roots in the region."
Jews may speak a Semitic language but they have been in Europe for so long that very few of them have Semitic blood. Now, what the state of Israel is doing to the Palestinians is truly anti-Semitic.
"The word Semite from the Biblical "Shem", (Hebrew: שם, Arabic: ساميّ) which means Noble/Majestic in reference to having origin in the sky (Hebrew: שמיים, Arabic: سماء)."
"The Semitic people trace their origins to the biblical Shem & his children which corresponds with Neolithic population of the Arabian plate that has its cultural, linguistic & genetic roots in the region."
Jews may speak a Semitic language but they have been in Europe for so long that very few of them have Semitic blood. Now, what the state of Israel is doing to the Palestinians is truly anti-Semitic.
My point is Iran and Israel should be held to the same standard.
If you are going to condemn the 1988 Iranian Inquisition as a crime against humanity, then you should also condemn every Israeli action which resulted in more death and destruction as crimes against humanity. Yet, you refuse to recognize Israel's many actions which far exceed the 1988 Iranian Inquisition as war crimes or crimes against humanity.
If you are going to condemn Iran for their NPT compliant enrichment activity, then you should be far more upset about Israel's blatant NPT violations.
I have no problem condemning war crimes and crimes against humanity regardless of who commits them. I've condemned Palestinians militant rocket and mortar attacks against Israeli civilians as war crimes. I also have no problem condemning the 1988 Iranian Inquisition as a barbaric, brutal, heinous and unjust. I'm not going to condemn Iran for their NPT compliant activities. But I will condemn every nation which violates the NPT including Iran if that ever happens.
I consider restraining innocent children in stress positions next to tanks as they fire chemical weapons at UN bomb shelters full of innocent civilians to be a war crime regardless of who does this. Can you admit this act is a war crimes when Israel does it? I doubt it. In fact, I've notice that few Israeli apologists here are able to condemn a single Israeli action regardless of how brutal, cruel or unjust.
hy·poc·ri·sy (h
2. An act or instance of such falseness
double standard Noun
a set of principles that allows greater freedom to one person or group than to another
So has Israel made any announcements that Iran doesn't exist and shouldn't be on a map of the world?
Anyway, getting back to the topic (which isn't about bashing Israel) I don't think ANY country should have nuclear weaponry. As far as that goes, I don't think any country should have to have weaponry period, but some people are just antisocial and make others require weaponry.
Anyway, getting back to the topic (which isn't about bashing Israel) I don't think ANY country should have nuclear weaponry. As far as that goes, I don't think any country should have to have weaponry period, but some people are just antisocial and make others require weaponry.
Spade might object.
Do you include those against Zionism even though the majority of Zionists are christian?
LOL, guess it takes a muddled mind to understand you...how sad for both of us. lol.
This would also seem to be pounding the war-drums against Iran who has not attacked Israel even after repeated calls to drop bombs on parts of their country, either by America or Israel. Nobody else seems to be very concerned about theit power plantsNor has there been any acts of hostility against America even after all the meddling and saber rattling on America's behalf since the late 70's. That would include an 8 yr war against their former partner Saddam from Iraq.
I thought I would wait for a poll that asks should Iran have nuclear power. Nobody in the mid-east should have them, verified by open inspections by the same teams that have already been in Iran. That part was in my 1st post on this subject.
Just what kind of sanctions would the West and Israel call for if Iran's attitude was the same as Israel's?
"Israel refuses cooperation
" Israel will not cooperate in any matter with this resolution which is only aiming at reinforcing political hostilities and lines of division in the Middle East region "
David Danieli, deputy director, Israeli atomic energy commission
Israel is one of only three countries worldwide along with India and Pakistan outside the nuclear NPT and is widely assumed to have the Middle East's only nuclear arsenal, though it has never confirmed or denied it.
"The delegation of Israel deplores this resolution," David Danieli, deputy director of Israel's atomic energy commission, told the chamber after the vote.
"Israel will not cooperate in any matter with this resolution which is only aiming at reinforcing political hostilities and lines of division in the Middle East region."
" Israel will not cooperate in any matter with this resolution which is only aiming at reinforcing political hostilities and lines of division in the Middle East region "
David Danieli, deputy director, Israeli atomic energy commission"
Middle East News | UN urges Israel to allow nuclear inspection
Just what kind of sanctions would the West and Israel call for if Iran's attitude was the same as Israel's?
"Israel refuses cooperation
" Israel will not cooperate in any matter with this resolution which is only aiming at reinforcing political hostilities and lines of division in the Middle East region "
David Danieli, deputy director, Israeli atomic energy commission
Israel is one of only three countries worldwide along with India and Pakistan outside the nuclear NPT and is widely assumed to have the Middle East's only nuclear arsenal, though it has never confirmed or denied it.
"The delegation of Israel deplores this resolution," David Danieli, deputy director of Israel's atomic energy commission, told the chamber after the vote.
"Israel will not cooperate in any matter with this resolution which is only aiming at reinforcing political hostilities and lines of division in the Middle East region."
" Israel will not cooperate in any matter with this resolution which is only aiming at reinforcing political hostilities and lines of division in the Middle East region "
David Danieli, deputy director, Israeli atomic energy commission"
Middle East News | UN urges Israel to allow nuclear inspection
Coming from you, that is absolutely hilarious. I hold them to the same standard. You, on the other hand, obviously don't.
Question
As Iran has signed the NPT for those that voted Yes in the poll - please substantiate why Iran should violate the treaty?
Well, there is you....MHz...Earth as One...Joey....It's not hard to be funny when you are surrounded by such great inspiration.
And how do you figure they are violating any treaty when the only ones saying they are are the yanks? Everything else I see says they are compliant. I think the US military has had it's head up it's own ass for so long they enjoy their own crap.