LOL They're just using cutting edge technology. I've been steaming it for three days now.
Egypt on the Verge of Collapse?
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LOL They're just using cutting edge technology. I've been steaming it for three days now.
I'm not sure I know what you mean. I use Firefox and AVG anti-virus. I also block all tracking cookies so nothing goes out from my comp unless I send something. I feel much more fearful of google. BTW, do you have 'chrome' yet? That browser is dirty. Watch your back there. Oh ya. If you sign into a web based e-mail service or a youtube account then you are signed into Google. LOL. Al Jazeera doesn;t care about you. Google does though. You need to re-prioritze your allocation of trust.
Tug....leg....pull...get it son?
As Foghorn leghorn would say....you're flying too low son....Keep your eye on the ball...eye...ball heh! heh!
I still believe Bush was right but history will be the ultimate judge on who was right and who was wrong..
So your saying Reagan's responsible for Sadat's Assaaaination? As for Mubarak he was the lesser of two evils. Should he fall from power it will be interesting to see what happens in Jordan and Syria because this wave is not going to stop with Egypt..
I love it Democracy is a joke according to some. No democracy is not a joke the fact that
we have all gone to sleep and allowed the structure of our society to change is in fact a joke.
We have allowed our system to be twisted to determine that democracy can include a nice
life for us while turning others lives into a new hell on earth. Most of it is not done for power
or politics its done for economics. We rail against all kinds of ills that one group does to
another at demonstrations , on radio shows and even in casting our ballots in an election.
The we all go home and look around our homes at the cheap products we purchased for
the very reason that they were cheap without a single thought to the exploitation of the people
who made them.
Condemn America or other Western Powers if you want, that is if it makes you feel better but
just before we do that, we should look at some other facts.
1 We ignore the fact that people in the countries we went to exploit their own people
2 The very powers that be in the Middle East exploit their own citizens and the people who
are in conflict with the West are brainwashing their own children to be suicide bombers
because they don't have the guts to do it themselves.
3 The terrorists buy the weapons and the scientific advanced technology from the very nations
they condemn.
4 The people who applaud from a distance those demonstrating in the streets know full well
the protesters are about to become victims of something far worse than the mess they are
living with now.
People are looking at Egypt, and Tunisia as the spark plug for all of this, not so Yemen started
the whole thing and its been ongoing for several months. Sudan is slowly fading out of control
and that is the only reason they let the south go because they are going to have to consolidate
to hold on. I think Saudi Arabia, and Jordan are in big trouble as well. The only group I think that
will survive this is Syria. the Baath Party there has provided stable government for the people
over all.
Fact is people are fed up the with dictators, they are fed up with the religious fundamentalists and
I think world communication is at the heart of this. People are not prepared to live in the dark ages.
I think the one person who did get it right was Senator John McCain, he said if we didn't pay attention
and if we left Iraq and Afghanistan to their own devices, the west would be back trying to control
a much wider conflict with more serious problems. This is only the beginning.
America is going to protect its interests, so will China and Russia and all of Europe. There could
well be a life and death struggle with civil wars within civil wars and what frightens me is I don't
think many realize how complicated the Middle East really is. I say that because we have dealt only
with the symptoms of the problem without admitting what the problems really are.
The Road to chaos may well turn out to be the same road the Roman Empire took and it took all
of civilization with it for a few hundred years.
Yes the Arab World is about to go up like a powder keg, and how we respond will set the course for
some measure of generational war, or some glimmer of light for stability in the region in the next
decade. Short term hang onto you seat for a wild ride through history.
we have all gone to sleep and allowed the structure of our society to change is in fact a joke.
We have allowed our system to be twisted to determine that democracy can include a nice
life for us while turning others lives into a new hell on earth. Most of it is not done for power
or politics its done for economics. We rail against all kinds of ills that one group does to
another at demonstrations , on radio shows and even in casting our ballots in an election.
The we all go home and look around our homes at the cheap products we purchased for
the very reason that they were cheap without a single thought to the exploitation of the people
who made them.
Condemn America or other Western Powers if you want, that is if it makes you feel better but
just before we do that, we should look at some other facts.
1 We ignore the fact that people in the countries we went to exploit their own people
2 The very powers that be in the Middle East exploit their own citizens and the people who
are in conflict with the West are brainwashing their own children to be suicide bombers
because they don't have the guts to do it themselves.
3 The terrorists buy the weapons and the scientific advanced technology from the very nations
they condemn.
4 The people who applaud from a distance those demonstrating in the streets know full well
the protesters are about to become victims of something far worse than the mess they are
living with now.
People are looking at Egypt, and Tunisia as the spark plug for all of this, not so Yemen started
the whole thing and its been ongoing for several months. Sudan is slowly fading out of control
and that is the only reason they let the south go because they are going to have to consolidate
to hold on. I think Saudi Arabia, and Jordan are in big trouble as well. The only group I think that
will survive this is Syria. the Baath Party there has provided stable government for the people
over all.
Fact is people are fed up the with dictators, they are fed up with the religious fundamentalists and
I think world communication is at the heart of this. People are not prepared to live in the dark ages.
I think the one person who did get it right was Senator John McCain, he said if we didn't pay attention
and if we left Iraq and Afghanistan to their own devices, the west would be back trying to control
a much wider conflict with more serious problems. This is only the beginning.
America is going to protect its interests, so will China and Russia and all of Europe. There could
well be a life and death struggle with civil wars within civil wars and what frightens me is I don't
think many realize how complicated the Middle East really is. I say that because we have dealt only
with the symptoms of the problem without admitting what the problems really are.
The Road to chaos may well turn out to be the same road the Roman Empire took and it took all
of civilization with it for a few hundred years.
Yes the Arab World is about to go up like a powder keg, and how we respond will set the course for
some measure of generational war, or some glimmer of light for stability in the region in the next
decade. Short term hang onto you seat for a wild ride through history.
There never was a democracy in Egypt, just governments favorable for or against us. The former Soviet Union is as much responsible for the chaos in Egypt as the West was. But more in reply to you, a dictator, kick out the bankers and you will fail even quicker. Democracy is a prize to be won and held on to and cherished, not a handout.
I'm watching the feed, it's good. You need a blocker to prevent the popups.
Time for western leaders to use the D-word, democracy and shoo away the rotten old tyrant that tortures. Western leaders seem to have forgot the grand gesture. Throw away the cold calculation and support the people. How can our leaders not support democracy?
Rightnow, an Aljazeera reporter is saying the generals make a few hundred thousand dollars a year. While the soldiers and officers who are on the tanks and carry the guns, only make a few hundred dollars a month and they won't be shooting on the Egyptian people.
The mideast like most parts of the world are infititely complicated, but what most people want is less oppression and more opportunity. Asian and African countries will never become models of democracy. Try to name one model democracy is Asia. Let's try Japan say, not repressive, but intensely xenophobic and won't permit immigration-even Japanese descendants from Brazil. But I've visited Japan and it's a great place to visit. Tokyo and Osaka are cool cities to see.
Much could be said for South Korea as for Japan. The people are doing well.
For most of the world, a more democratic form of govt will improve their lives because the people are so technocratic, they know what they have to do to live better, and that means hard work. Arabs are Asians and will use democracy to their best advantage and get ahead.
Obama is not getting Asians as much democracy as possible ASAP, thus he is falling on the wrong side of history. Funny how his speeches before he became president were so inspiring, then he gets the job and he speaks like a dullard. Bad sign. In my mind he's looking like a fake, when the chips are down, he really doesn't favour democracy. Say the D-word Obama for Egypt to retore your cred.
Today's News
AJE - Al Jazeera English
Egypt authorities order Aljazeera to shut down their operations in Egypt and arrested 6 Aljazeera journalists.
Thousands of protesters stayed in Tahrir square last night, defying curfews. At this time the square is full of protesters. 3 armored personal carriers and a tank remain in the square, but the rest of the tanks have left.
Protesters call for a general strike starting today and a million person protest to march on the presidential palace tomorrow.
Banks, the stock exchange and most businesses in major cities remain closed today. If the banks open, its likely everyone will try to withdraw their money causing a run on the bank. If the stock exchange opens, it would probably trigger a panic sell off.
People are queuing up to buy bread and other basic foods.
The internet still is shut down.
Police are back on Cairo's streets this morning after being absent for 2 days. So far they aren't trying to disperse protesters, but taking up their regular duties. People seem to be going out of their way to make the police feel welcome, by bringing traffic cops tea and sweets.
AJE - Al Jazeera English
Egypt authorities order Aljazeera to shut down their operations in Egypt and arrested 6 Aljazeera journalists.
Thousands of protesters stayed in Tahrir square last night, defying curfews. At this time the square is full of protesters. 3 armored personal carriers and a tank remain in the square, but the rest of the tanks have left.
Protesters call for a general strike starting today and a million person protest to march on the presidential palace tomorrow.
Banks, the stock exchange and most businesses in major cities remain closed today. If the banks open, its likely everyone will try to withdraw their money causing a run on the bank. If the stock exchange opens, it would probably trigger a panic sell off.
People are queuing up to buy bread and other basic foods.
The internet still is shut down.
Police are back on Cairo's streets this morning after being absent for 2 days. So far they aren't trying to disperse protesters, but taking up their regular duties. People seem to be going out of their way to make the police feel welcome, by bringing traffic cops tea and sweets.
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Israel cannot permit democracy to bloom in the ME. Israels existence depends on the misery of its neighbours, delivered and maintained with the full official blessings of Canada and the rest of the faux democratic western financial apparatus. So in the ME they can have the iron boot of Israeli domination or they can have democracy,but they will not ever have both.
AMERICA IS EGYPT
January 31, 2011 posted by Gordon Duff ·
“FACE VALUE,” THEY ARE IN THE STREETS FOR ALL OF US
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Egypt is a lesson for America, teaching us to look at ourselves, at how free we really are. We are not so different, Egypt under Mubarak and America under what ever gang of financial criminals and foreign thugs is controlling the government today. Egyptians have known thousands of years of slavery. They recognize it when they see it. Slavery, for most Americans, is something new. Americans woke up one day and weren’t so free anymore, maybe not at all. Some didn’t see it coming. Others screamed a warning and were pounded into the ground for it.
Seeing what is going on in Egypt reminds me of how I thought America was going to be. The 60′s were confusing, for those of us who were around then and still have the brain cells left to reminisce. John Kennedy’s America was going to save the world, not so much from Communism but from slavery and dictatorship. Africa had “de-colonialized” and the dictatorships, the banana republics, Franco, Tito, whoever that guy in Korea was, all those oppressive folks were going to be tossed aside and Americans would lead the way, Peace Corps if possible, Special Forces if it came down to it.
We were the guys with democracy to sell and Kennedy had the credibility to pull it off. Then “they” killed him and we got Johnson, the USS Liberty, deeper into Vietnam and, eventually another dead Kennedy, killed to put Nixon in office and end all that foolishness, hope and moral righteousness.
Mohamed ElBaradei: Globalist Pied Piper Of
The Egyptian Revolt
By Paul Joseph Watson
If the Egyptians are successful in toppling Mubarak, only to replace him with ElBaradei, they will have achieved nothing, and the eventual outcome will merely see Egypt remain as a subservient client state of the US military-industrial complex
bits & pieces
Did you know the post-Mubarak "govt in exile" was finalized in December? Did you know that a big oil exec from Archer Daniels Midland revealed the plans for a "M.E. conflagration around turn of year" back in SEPT 2010?? Did you know a US National Guard Unit was sent over to the SINAI PENINSULA to safeguard Israel against the "Egypt Revolution"- back in early January?
AMERICA IS EGYPT
January 31, 2011 posted by Gordon Duff ·
“FACE VALUE,” THEY ARE IN THE STREETS FOR ALL OF USBy Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Egypt is a lesson for America, teaching us to look at ourselves, at how free we really are. We are not so different, Egypt under Mubarak and America under what ever gang of financial criminals and foreign thugs is controlling the government today. Egyptians have known thousands of years of slavery. They recognize it when they see it. Slavery, for most Americans, is something new. Americans woke up one day and weren’t so free anymore, maybe not at all. Some didn’t see it coming. Others screamed a warning and were pounded into the ground for it.
Seeing what is going on in Egypt reminds me of how I thought America was going to be. The 60′s were confusing, for those of us who were around then and still have the brain cells left to reminisce. John Kennedy’s America was going to save the world, not so much from Communism but from slavery and dictatorship. Africa had “de-colonialized” and the dictatorships, the banana republics, Franco, Tito, whoever that guy in Korea was, all those oppressive folks were going to be tossed aside and Americans would lead the way, Peace Corps if possible, Special Forces if it came down to it.
We were the guys with democracy to sell and Kennedy had the credibility to pull it off. Then “they” killed him and we got Johnson, the USS Liberty, deeper into Vietnam and, eventually another dead Kennedy, killed to put Nixon in office and end all that foolishness, hope and moral righteousness.
America was going to be about bombing.
Mohamed ElBaradei: Globalist Pied Piper Of
The Egyptian Revolt
By Paul Joseph Watson
If the Egyptians are successful in toppling Mubarak, only to replace him with ElBaradei, they will have achieved nothing, and the eventual outcome will merely see Egypt remain as a subservient client state of the US military-industrial complex
bits & pieces
Did you know the post-Mubarak "govt in exile" was finalized in December? Did you know that a big oil exec from Archer Daniels Midland revealed the plans for a "M.E. conflagration around turn of year" back in SEPT 2010?? Did you know a US National Guard Unit was sent over to the SINAI PENINSULA to safeguard Israel against the "Egypt Revolution"- back in early January?
You clearly suffer from IDS (Israel Derangement Syndrome) and unfortunately there's no known cure.. :-(
Mubarak is finished:
Most likely Mubarak's government will resign and power will be handed over to Elbaradei, who will lead a caretaker government until general elections in September.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/01/world/middleeast/01egypt.html
Most likely Mubarak's government will resign and power will be handed over to Elbaradei, who will lead a caretaker government until general elections in September.
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Faux once again couldn't find not only the truth but reality.No wonder Egypt is in trouble:
Today's News
This is certainly the biggest crowd I've ever seen. Its well over a million people. Some news sources peg the number at two million as the crowd continues to grow. At some point today this crowd is going to march on the Presidential palace, even though Mubarak isn't there. I don't think this will turn violent. The mood at this point is more like a celebration or giant street party.
Aljazeera Headline
Giant protest kicks off in Egypt
Cairo's "million-man-march" reaches its target, as multitudes call for president Mubarak to resign.
About 1,000,000 people have gathered for the planned "march of a million" in the Egyptian capital, calling for Hosni Mubarak, the embattled Egyptian president, to step down.
Meanwhile, one of Egypt's oldest parties, Wafd, announced on Tuesday that a number of opposition groups have agreed to form "a national front" to deal with the volatile situation there. In a statement, Wafd said that president Mubarak "has lost legitimacy."
Also on Tuesday, the Muslim Brotherhood, an officially banned but tolerated movement, said it will not negotiate with president Mubarak or his government.
Earlier, some opposition parties have called for Mubarak to delegate responsibilities to newly appointed vice-president Omar Suleiman, who they are prepared to negotiate with.
Throngs protest
Thousands of demonstrators began gathering from early on Tuesday morning in Cairo's Tahrir Square, which has been the focal point of protests in the capital and served as the meeting area for the march to begin on the eighth day of an uprising that has so far claimed more than 125 lives.
Another protest in the Mediterranean port city of Alexandria attracted tens of thousands of protesters, as national train services were cancelled in an apparent bid to stymie protests. Protests were also reported in the city of Suez.
Protest organisers have also called for an indefinite strike to be observed across the country.
Soldiers at Tahrir Square have formed a human chain around protesters, and are checking people as they enter for weapons. Tanks have been positioned near the square, and officers have been checking identity papers.
The army has also blocked all major roads in the city, and tens of thousands of protesters are being held at the Kasr al-Nile bridge. They were on their way to the main protest at Tahrir Square.
'Gaining momentum'
Al Jazeera correspondents have described a "festival-like" and "communal" atmosphere at the protest, with protesters from all walks of life represented.
"It is peaceful, people power that has united here in the heart of Egypt's historic square," reported one correspondent....
Giant protest kicks off in Egypt - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
Live streaming video on AlJazeera's main news page:
AJE - Al Jazeera English
This is certainly the biggest crowd I've ever seen. Its well over a million people. Some news sources peg the number at two million as the crowd continues to grow. At some point today this crowd is going to march on the Presidential palace, even though Mubarak isn't there. I don't think this will turn violent. The mood at this point is more like a celebration or giant street party.
Aljazeera Headline
Giant protest kicks off in Egypt
Cairo's "million-man-march" reaches its target, as multitudes call for president Mubarak to resign.
About 1,000,000 people have gathered for the planned "march of a million" in the Egyptian capital, calling for Hosni Mubarak, the embattled Egyptian president, to step down.
Meanwhile, one of Egypt's oldest parties, Wafd, announced on Tuesday that a number of opposition groups have agreed to form "a national front" to deal with the volatile situation there. In a statement, Wafd said that president Mubarak "has lost legitimacy."
Also on Tuesday, the Muslim Brotherhood, an officially banned but tolerated movement, said it will not negotiate with president Mubarak or his government.
Earlier, some opposition parties have called for Mubarak to delegate responsibilities to newly appointed vice-president Omar Suleiman, who they are prepared to negotiate with.
Throngs protest
Thousands of demonstrators began gathering from early on Tuesday morning in Cairo's Tahrir Square, which has been the focal point of protests in the capital and served as the meeting area for the march to begin on the eighth day of an uprising that has so far claimed more than 125 lives.
Another protest in the Mediterranean port city of Alexandria attracted tens of thousands of protesters, as national train services were cancelled in an apparent bid to stymie protests. Protests were also reported in the city of Suez.
Protest organisers have also called for an indefinite strike to be observed across the country.
Soldiers at Tahrir Square have formed a human chain around protesters, and are checking people as they enter for weapons. Tanks have been positioned near the square, and officers have been checking identity papers.
The army has also blocked all major roads in the city, and tens of thousands of protesters are being held at the Kasr al-Nile bridge. They were on their way to the main protest at Tahrir Square.
'Gaining momentum'
Al Jazeera correspondents have described a "festival-like" and "communal" atmosphere at the protest, with protesters from all walks of life represented.
"It is peaceful, people power that has united here in the heart of Egypt's historic square," reported one correspondent....
Giant protest kicks off in Egypt - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
Live streaming video on AlJazeera's main news page:
AJE - Al Jazeera English
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