Duffy is past expiry date- Harper should cut him loose.

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Removing senators a difficult task under the Constitution | CTV News



He committed fraud?
Rules for removal - he fits the bill. Pun intended.

UPDATED: Can a senator be removed from office? Yes, in theory. - Inside Politics

For a slightly longer, if not entirely illuminating answer to what has suddenly become a surprisingly frequently asked question -- let's turn the floor over to the Constitution Act:

31. The Place of a Senator shall become vacant in any of the following Cases:

(1) If for Two consecutive Sessions of the Parliament he fails to give his Attendance in the Senate;
(2) If he takes an Oath or makes a Declaration or Acknowledgment of Allegiance, Obedience, or Adherence to a Foreign Power, or does an Act whereby he becomes a Subject or Citizen, or entitled to the Rights or Privileges of a Subject or Citizen, of a Foreign Power;
(3) If he is adjudged Bankrupt or Insolvent, or applies for the Benefit of any Law relating to Insolvent Debtors, or becomes a public Defaulter;
(4) If he is attainted of Treason or convicted of Felony or of any infamous Crime;
(5) If he ceases to be qualified in respect of Property or of Residence; provided, that a Senator shall not be deemed to have ceased to be qualified in respect of Residence by reason only of his residing at the Seat of the Government of Canada while holding an Office under that Government requiring his Presence there.

And who shall decide if such a situation has arisen? Why, the senate itself, of course:

33. If any Question arises respecting the Qualification of a Senator or a Vacancy in the Senate the same shall be heard and determined by the Senate.
 

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Duffy is only one side of the equation.

Walllin, Brazeau, the others that had to pay back monies. The complete committee or ones on the Senate committee that white washed the audit to make it look pretty- Is that not fraud??? They can also hit the road.
The Chief of Staff can head back to Onex.

Why the numbers build up so fast perhaps they should rent a bus to cut down on return to address, transit fees. Budget cuts ya know.

A Judicial inquiry into the Senate and their spending, audits etc. Include MP's as well.
Make them public. You only get reimbursed after they have been approved and are made public.
Get rid of the so called Honor System where a Senator does not have to provide receipts.
Clarify and enforce the criteria for residency - Duffy did not qualify- He was not a resident of PEI.
Residency in the Prov a minimum of 10 years, nah make it 20 years. No parachuting someone in.
Unless they withhold the parachute, budget cuts again ya know.


And this lovely tidbit. Pay off Sun Media?? - They are on the team??? What the f was he thinking, what was he up to and what else has been tucked away?

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/mike...e-crtc-decision-on-sun-media-source-1.1285555

Sen. Mike Duffy attempted to influence the Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission’s upcoming decision involving the right-leaning Sun News Network, a source has told CTV News.

A well-placed source told CTV’s Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife that Duffy approached a Conservative insider with connections to the CRTC three weeks ago to discuss Sun Media, which is asking the federal regulator to grant its news channel “mandatory carriage,” or guaranteed placement on basic cable and satellite packages.

The move would boost Sun News Network’s profile and revenues.
 
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so how do we get rid of the Senate

The Senate serves as a counter balance to Parliament- problem is that it is partisan. The Senate is not being utilized in the manner that it should be.
Can you imagine what a powerful PM with a large majority could do.
 

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I think the adscam supporters are pissed off and embarassed that their conservative counter-story involves paying the money back. Those dirtly low down good for nothing liberal theiving bastards never paid back 90k of the hundreds of millions that they stole. The ultimate kick in the balls, they took the money under the guise of national unity. This disgusts me. You disgust me. All of you. Grow up. Do it. Now. Thank you.
 

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Senate appointments to journalists is the federal Conservatives attempt to control the media when that failed the Conservatives are cutting bait. Who do you think leaked their financials to the media it is easy to say that the government is supporting them just because lip service is cheap.
 

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Going by the news this past week I'd say many people are past their expiry date, Harper for one and Rob Ford for another. How much longer should the taxpayer subsidize these arch A$$holes?
 

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The Senate serves as a counter balance to Parliament- problem is that it is partisan. The Senate is not being utilized in the manner that it should be.
Can you imagine what a powerful PM with a large majority could do.
more damage than they do now, BUT if we start demanding accountability and some genius can come up with a method to ensure they can be shot on sight for misappropriation of funds and behavior unbecoming to the best interests of the country well maybe then we have a chance.

I want them gone...now...and I don't want our system replaced by a system to the south of us where they can't get anything done because all three houses fight all the time.

We need to start examining other countries governments because this doesn't work in our best interest fiscally.
 

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Senate appointments to journalists is the federal Conservatives attempt to control the media when that failed the Conservatives are cutting bait. Who do you think leaked their financials to the media it is easy to say that the government is supporting them just because lip service is cheap.

But appointing Adrienne Clarkson or Michelle Jean as GG is different, right?
 

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If only Senator Duffy had sipped his Scotch quietly - The Globe and Mail

Well before he left journalism, Mr. Duffy’s personality and appearance had become something of a joke. The Puffster, as people called him not so far behind his back, had an ego commensurate with his girth. (Disclosure: I was on his show from time to time, and we got along quite well.) Of course, it’s easy to get a big head if you have your own TV show, but Mr. Duffy’s head was larger than most. He came to believe that he was more important than most of the people he interviewed. He treated public figures he didn’t like as idiots, rogues and scoundrels. When he caught them offside – fudging, obfuscating, stonewalling, perhaps even forgetting where they lived – he’d tear them limb from limb.

At the same time, Mr. Duffy was the embodiment of the Ottawa insider. And as soon as he joined the other side, it was the media who were idiots, rogues and scoundrels. When a CP reporter asked him how many party fundraisers he’d attended in the past year, he responded in an e-mail: “You are beneath contempt.”

But this article nails it.

Mike Duffy is blameless. Also, he is eight feet tall and covered in fur - The Globe and Mail

This is what we call a Target Rich Environment- Anyone way you look at it, every angle has rot and corruption - along with complete idiocy - everywhere.

If only Senator Duffy had sipped his Scotch quietly - The Globe and Mail

Well before he left journalism, Mr. Duffy’s personality and appearance had become something of a joke. The Puffster, as people called him not so far behind his back, had an ego commensurate with his girth. (Disclosure: I was on his show from time to time, and we got along quite well.) Of course, it’s easy to get a big head if you have your own TV show, but Mr. Duffy’s head was larger than most. He came to believe that he was more important than most of the people he interviewed. He treated public figures he didn’t like as idiots, rogues and scoundrels. When he caught them offside – fudging, obfuscating, stonewalling, perhaps even forgetting where they lived – he’d tear them limb from limb.

At the same time, Mr. Duffy was the embodiment of the Ottawa insider. And as soon as he joined the other side, it was the media who were idiots, rogues and scoundrels. When a CP reporter asked him how many party fundraisers he’d attended in the past year, he responded in an e-mail: “You are beneath contempt.”

But this article nails it.

Mike Duffy is blameless. Also, he is eight feet tall and covered in fur - The Globe and Mail
 

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The Canadian Senate is like tits on a bull – neither useful nor necessary. But it is a handy way for both major political parties to milk the system. A Senate seat is a sinecure for party hacks and others owed for services rendered. There they can spend their declining years in comfort, and continue to serve their parties’ interests, on the taxpayers’ dime. The Senate is unelected and unaccountable, and you can be sure Mr. Duffy is not the only member who feels entitled to his entitlements.
yup 'bout says it all
 

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Canada’s New Govt. No corruption will be tolerated. How many times has the PM stated this???

Oh this is going to grow. Like a bad fungus. And having seen how this Govt. stumbles, mumbles, twists stories, and changes the story, why they will be the direct and sole cause of the fungus growing ever larger.
For those Libs, to sad for your party that they never had their feet held to the proverbial fire as the much derided, by Libs that is, National Post.

Sad to say the Globe or the TO Star clearly lack that credibility with consistency I would add.
There are the occasional writers for those papers who go after corruption be it Lib or Con.

Nigel Wright resigning leaves more questions for Stephen Harper | Full Comment | National Post

Did Prime Minister Stephen Harper have foreknowledge of a backroom deal between his now former chief of staff, Nigel Wright, and Sen. Mike Duffy, in which the latter’s $90,172 tab for improper housing expenses would be made to go away?
That question now takes centre stage, as Harper finds himself, for the first time in his seven-plus years in power, in the grip of a full-blown crisis at the highest levels of his government, with as-yet unknown consequences for all the players involved, including him. Tuesday, the PM is set to meet with his caucus.

The exchange, one suspects, will be neither pleasant nor brief.

Sunday morning, in a tersely worded statement that came just 48 hours after the Prime Minister’s Office had insisted Wright had the prime minister’s full confidence, the chief of staff announced his departure.

“In light of the controversy surrounding my handling of matters involving Senator Duffy, the Prime Minister has accepted my resignation as Chief of Staff,” Wright wrote. “My actions were intended solely to secure the repayment of funds, which I considered to be in the public interest, and I accept sole responsibility.”
Then comes the kicker: “I did not advise the Prime Minister of the means by which Sen. Duffy’s expenses were repaid, either before of after the fact.”

How very tactfully worded that clause is. Not advising someone “of the means” can be interpreted any number of ways. It could mean that the prime minister didn’t know whether the $90,172 was paid to Duffy by cheque, in cash, or via bank draft. It could mean the prime minister was not informed whether it was a loan, or a gift, or a combination of both. What it avoids, rather glaringly, is this very simple question: Did the prime minister know about and approve of the payment to Duffy?
 

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and some genius can come up with a method to ensure they can be shot on sight for misappropriation of funds
There is a method, it's called purchase orders. Unlike a credit card you can't buy extras or use them like cash. Everything a Senator needs can be acquired through purchase orders. Airline tix, food, office supplies, utilities etc....except booze.
 

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There is a method, it's called purchase orders. Unlike a credit card you can't buy extras or use them like cash. Everything a Senator needs can be acquired through purchase orders. Airline tix, food, office supplies, utilities etc....except booze.
hm, there's a thought, and they all travel through one destination and must be approved of and the person signing off is also cupable