Drunk B.C. teen set ablaze, filmed after passing out at party

[JLM]

One thing that bothers me is how the populace in general seems to be immune to the fact that the incidences of this Sh*t is getting so much worse and more frequent than it was a couple of generations ago. "There's more media coverage now", "we used to do this stuff too when we were kids". Christ now this stuff is running rampant in our own communities, years ago you might hear of it once every five years, in some obscure place like Philadelphia.

 

[SLM]

One thing that bothers me is how the populace in general seems to be immune to the fact that the incidences of this Sh*t is getting so much worse and more frequent than it was a couple of generations ago. "There's more media coverage now", "we used to do this stuff too when we were kids". Christ now this stuff is running rampant in our own communities, years ago you might hear of it once every five years, in some obscure place like Philadelphia.

Because we didn't have instantaneous access to remote local news then. We do now.

It can alter the perception, don't discount that.

 

[JLM]

Because we didn't have instantaneous access to remote local news then. We do now.

It can alter the perception, don't discount that.

It would sure be nice if everything you say is right (and I regard you as very wise) but I'm pretty sure in actual fact things have gotten much worse- today we have electronic media, yesterday we had the grapevine and it was just about as fast. Mind you our news was pretty much limited to our own and surrounding communities. On the other matter of course our own insight into ourselves is much different from the attitude toward others............."I was justified"

 

[SLM]

It would sure be nice if everything you say is right (and I regard you as very wise) but I'm pretty sure in actual fact things have gotten much worse- today we have electronic media, yesterday we had the grapevine and it was just about as fast. Mind you our news was pretty much limited to our own and surrounding communities. On the other matter of course our own insight into ourselves is much different from the attitude toward others............."I was justified"

I'm not trying to say that it's better, worse or the same now. You'd need hard numbers to really support that one way or the other. But I do think we need to be aware of how we may perceive things to be because of rapid-fire "news" reports delivered over the internet or twitter or facebook. It's no different than reading a news article with a decidedly liberal or conservative slant to it, it doesn't mean that the news itself is not true but you need to weigh the bias in presenting the news to get to the truth.

In other words, you may hear of three similiar incidents all in one day, so it seems like it's a rampant thing. But then you may not hear about any more similar incidents for many, many more months afterward. So is it really increasing in frequency or is that just our perception?

It may well be increasing but we can't discount how our perceptions can taint the overall picture. That's all I'm trying to say.

 

[karrie]

Because we didn't have instantaneous access to remote local news then. We do now.

It can alter the perception, don't discount that.

More news, more people....of course we hear about this stuff more.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I'm not trying to say that it's better, worse or the same now. You'd need hard numbers to really support that one way or the other. But I do think we need to be aware of how we may perceive things to be because of rapid-fire "news" reports delivered over the internet or twitter or facebook. It's no different than reading a news article with a decidedly liberal or conservative slant to it, it doesn't mean that the news itself is not true but you need to weigh the bias in presenting the news to get to the truth.

In other words, you may hear of three similiar incidents all in one day, so it seems like it's a rampant thing. But then you may not hear about any more similar incidents for many, many more months afterward. So is it really increasing in frequency or is that just our perception?

It may well be increasing but we can't discount how our perceptions can taint the overall picture. That's all I'm trying to say.

You make a very good point here, & something similar was pointed out on the radio
last night. They where talking about Uranium Mining in Northern Saskatchewan (Yes,
this will tie back to what you're stating :lol. It has the approval of something like 81%
of the northern population, but....

They can have a meeting in a Northern community about the issue, & 100 people show
up. 99 are for it, and one guy shows up wearing a chicken suit and packing an air horn,
and who's the media going to focus on? To try to remain impartial when reporting, they'll
say, "Some where for it, & some where against it." and who's going to end up on the news?
Most likely the guy in the chicken suit.

Then, as you pointed out above, we're in a 24hr/day news cycle....and that's got to be filled.
We are going to hear about the guy in the chicken suit (or the monkey in the Ikea, whatever)
until something comes along to replace it in the news cycle. Hell, the radio station I listen to
reports the news every 10 minutes on the 10's. New news doesn't happen every 10 minutes
on the 10's very often. ;-)

More news, more people....of course we hear about this stuff more.

Thank you for say'n exactly what I'm try'n to say, in one sentence.

 

[SLM]

More news, more people....of course we hear about this stuff more.

You make a very good point here, & something similar was pointed out on the radio
last night. They where talking about Uranium Mining in Northern Saskatchewan (Yes,
this will tie back to what you're stating :lol. It has the approval of something like 81%
of the northern population, but....

They can have a meeting in a Northern community about the issue, & 100 people show
up. 99 are for it, and one guy shows up wearing a chicken suit and packing an air horn,
and who's the media going to focus on? To try to remain impartial when reporting, they'll
say, "Some where for it, & some where against it." and who's going to end up on the news?
Most likely the guy in the chicken suit.

Then, as you pointed out above, we're in a 24hr/day news cycle....and that's got to be filled.
We are going to hear about the guy in the chicken suit (or the monkey in the Ikea, whatever)
until something comes along to replace it in the news cycle. Hell, the radio station I listen to
reports the news every 10 minutes on the 10's. New news doesn't happen every 10 minutes
on the 10's very often. ;-)



Thank you for say'n exactly what I'm try'n to say, in one sentence.

Exactly. Which does not mean that we should fluff all reports; there may be, in some cases, some cause for concern or need to look at things a little more closely. But I do think we need to be aware of the method of delivery of the news that we receive because that becomes a part of the story.

 

[JLM]

More news, more people....of course we hear about this stuff more.

And on the news right now is a mass murder at a school in Connecticut with the possibility of as many as 27 dead!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/12/14/connecticut-school-shooting.html

 

[L Gilbert]

WTF is the matter with this generation we raised.

Matthew Sweet-Grant, Joshua McWhirter accused of setting teen on fire | Canada | News | National Post

A teenager has been severely burned in Kelowna, B.C., after his clothes were set aflame, and Mounties worry that a suspect may have staged similar attacks in the past.

RCMP Const. Kris Clark says the 18-year-old victim is being treated for second and third degree burns after falling asleep on the kitchen floor at house party in the Okanagan city on Dec. 8.

Clark says a man allegedly poured a liquid on the back of the inebriated victim and then lit a match, while another suspect recorded the resulting blaze.

Both men have been arrested.

Two Kelowna men, 20-year-old Matthew Sweet-Grant and 18-year-old Joshua McWhirter, remain in custody, charged with aggravated assault.

Nuckin futz! Between political nutbars, religious nutbars, and profiteering nutbars, society sure is cancerous and breeds some nasty f'n people.

 

[shadowshiv]

At least those two twits aren't protected by the Youth Justice thing

Unfortunately, that doesn't mean that they still won't receive a light sentence.

 

[Stretch]

well, seeing as how tptb have taken away our right to teach children right from wrong, to teach them to have respect, etc, and labeled it child abuse, ya best get used to it. give them mind altering drugs instead of a swift kick up the ar se or a clip around the ear. we are reaping what tptb have sown.........