Do you or do you not believe in God and why?

Do You Believe in God?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 46.2%
  • No

    Votes: 10 38.5%
  • Fence Sitting at the Moment

    Votes: 4 15.4%

  • Total voters
    26

55Mercury

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God is all matter. But for the sheer entertainment value, trying to figure It out is a waste of time. silly earthlings
 

grainfedpraiboy

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Y In simple terms, my position would be that the existence of dark matter is a plausible and parsimonious explanation for certain observations of the motions of galaxies and stars within galaxies.

Not just stars and galaxies but even planets are affected.

This is the youtube video I used to teach my youngest kids about gravity and space time that also touches on dark matter. Petros might find it helps bring him up to speed.


 

talloola

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What is it that directs the migration routes and schedules of birds and fish? I don't think they read maps or calendars. :)

I give the birds all of the credit, their instinct, their built in memory box, they are wonderful
creatures, and just like us, they and all animals and birds and fish on this planet have their
own survival instinct, they have figured it out long long ago, and can adapt all thru the times
as the earth changes, just as we have.
and much of it is trial and error with both man and animal, keep on keepin on to survive.

don't you give anything alive on this earth credit for their own thought process and survival instincts,
why does it have to be given to them from someone else.

don't you give yourself credit for knowing and learning how to live and survive?
 

JLM

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I give the birds all of the credit, their instinct, their built in memory box, they are wonderful
creatures, and just like us, they and all animals and birds and fish on this planet have their
own survival instinct, they have figured it out long long ago, and can adapt all thru the times
as the earth changes, just as we have.
and much of it is trial and error with both man and animal, keep on keepin on to survive.

don't you give anything alive on this earth credit for their own thought process and survival instincts,
why does it have to be given to them from someone else.

don't you give yourself credit for knowing and learning how to live and survive?

I think you are getting close to the answer............."instincts", perhaps an embodiment of "God". :)
 

petros

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Yeah, very familiar, it's just another version of that old BS claim about science being a religion.

In your case it is Religion.

There isn't enough gravity to explain the Universe without tossing in fringe podssibility of the dark matter wildcard.

If ifs and buts were fruit and nuts we'll all have a merry Christmas.
 
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Corduroy

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I think you are getting close to the answer............."instincts", perhaps an embodiment of "God". :)

You are literally running through the God of the gaps program. You come up with something you can't explain, then someone explains it and so you announce God is the part that wasn't explained. If someone explained "instincts", you would surely find something mysterious in that explanation you could call God. Essentially, the entire premise of this argument is that god is whatever you don't know. Or in other words, God is your ignorance.
 

JLM

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You are literally running through the God of the gaps program. You come up with something you can't explain, then someone explains it and so you announce God is the part that wasn't explained. If someone explained "instincts", you would surely find something mysterious in that explanation you could call God. Essentially, the entire premise of this argument is that god is whatever you don't know. Or in other words, God is your ignorance.

Oooooooooooooooooh you're making things complicated. :) Let's start with your definition of God. Take your time, I'll be away until the afternoon. (I know nothing for sure about God, I can only come up with possibilities, which to me makes more sense than ruling it out)
 

talloola

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Oooooooooooooooooh you're making things complicated. :) Let's start with your definition of God. Take your time, I'll be away until the afternoon. (I know nothing for sure about God, I can only come up with possibilities, which to me makes more sense than ruling it out)


doesn't seem sensible to me to make up something from an idea that has no evidence of ever being anything
but an idea.
the idea that everything that is alive on this earth was caused from a god, is just
that, an idea, someone's wonderment of the marvels of nature doesn't have to be
caused by a god, but some think so.
the observance of how a bird knows to migrate is a learned instinctive nature of
the bird, but just an idea of some that it was caused by a god, no evidence of
any of those ideas being founded and true, so to decide that it is caused by a
god is just an answer for those who don't know but have to have an answer
NOW, i'll hold off on that assumption, can't jump aboard, that is too much like
someone's dream, then they told everyone it really did happen.

I don't think the god answer is a possibility at all, but because I don't know
the actual reason for life on earth, isn't a reason to think that 'MAYBE' it
was a god, nope I'm not a follower of other's little daydreams of possibilities.
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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You are literally running through the God of the gaps program. You come up with something you can't explain, then someone explains it and so you announce God is the part that wasn't explained. If someone explained "instincts", you would surely find something mysterious in that explanation you could call God. Essentially, the entire premise of this argument is that god is whatever you don't know. Or in other words, God is your ignorance.
Or possibly elves. Or maybe Elvis.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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I don't think the god answer is a possibility at all, but because I don't know
the actual reason for life on earth, isn't a reason to think that 'MAYBE' it
was a god, nope I'm not a follower of other's little daydreams of possibilities.

You have chosen to not accept it as a possibility.