Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?

Which drug is the most harmful when used regularly?

  • Marijuana

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  • None of them are harmful

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  • I'm not sure.

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petros

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Man uses weed to expand spiritual horizons and weed uses man to spread it's seeds around far and wide and tend to it's needs to prosper.
 

Mowich

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Bleeding an infected wound is still an excellent remedy.

The powder off Birch bark is still an antiseptic pain killer. Wood cutting boards are better, because wood contains natural antiseptics.

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

I get a kick out of people that think because science usurped ancient remedies, it somehow negates ancient remedies. :roll:

Sphagnum moss that is another piece of it, Bear. I learned the wonders of this moss when I used it to heal a bad wound on a dogs neck. It took me three days to have the wound pink and clean - by the weekend it had healed completely. I am never without a supply of it now and am lucky as it grows on a pond just up the road from where I live - the moss also has antiseptic properties.
 

petros

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Plantain.



Awesome anti-inflammatory and astringent. Works fast on skeeter bites.
 

Mowich

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Users buy from criminals and support criminal activity which include violence in the form of turf wars and theft.
Not all users buy from criminals, some are lucky enough to know someone who grows enough to support their occasional habit and that of other occasional users. Small Ma and Pa operations are prevalent in every corner of the province of BC. One need not resort to buying from a gang member in order to have a good smoke now and then.

Who are you going to complain to is someone robs you of your marijuana? The law also puts people's careers at risk, interferes with travel...
You are right about that which is why many smokers I know do not broadcast their use of marijuana nor do they break further laws by driving after smoking or being intoxicated when at work.
 

petros

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Anyone who grows two or three plants for themselves has nothing to worry about unless they turn a nickel or get behind the wheel.
 

Mowich

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Plantain.



Awesome anti-inflammatory and astringent. Works fast on skeeter bites.

And lest we forget, my all-time fav - the lovely and oh so exceptional - Achillea millefolium - aka Yarrow.





Isn't it amazing what is available in so many of our own backyards, fields, meadows and ponds? I have yet to identify one plant that grows on my land which doesn't have some medicinal or edible property. I even have some chicory which makes for a weak but potable coffee substitute.
 

petros

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Ever heard of bloodroot? A native buddy got me on to this one:

Research is
very promising for Bloodroot constituents. One is sanguinarine; it is showing
results as an anesthetic, antibacterial, anti-cholinesterase, anti-edemic,
anti-gingivitic, anti-inflammatory, anti-neoplastic, antioxidant,
anti-periodontic, anti-plaque, antiseptic, diuretic, emetic, expectorant,
fungicide, gastrocontractant, hypertensive, pesticide, respiratory stimulant
and more. Another important constituent is Berberine (also found in Goldenseal,
Oregon Grape and Honeysuckle) which is showing promise in fighting brain tumors
and many other cancers.

Blackroot is another he uses to purge before fasting. It makes you puke and gives you the ****s.
 

Cliffy

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Roasted Chicory and dandelion roots mixed make an even better coffee substitute. Yarrow is not only medicinal but is also used to throw the I ching. I have use plantain and mullein for over 40 years.
 

Niflmir

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I don't buy the gateway argument.

The gateway argument is the whole correlation vs. causation fallacy that people go around spouting as if everyone knew it, but they never apply it in practice.

I consider drug use riskier because it affects the whole country because of the crime deaths, gangs,
drug lords, smuggling, and generally makes people involved look weak and miserable, and the suppliers look
greedy, and a detrement to the good of the country, and a drain on the police force, and dangerous to
the innocent because of break n entry and general theft to obtain money for drugs.

This is all true, but I really think the conclusion to draw from this is that drugs should be legalized. All of those risks you mention arise not from inherent problems of the drugs, but from the fact that their distribution is uncontrolled, i.e. black (funny that "controlled substances" are distributed in uncontrolled markets). All the same was said of alcohol during prohibition. Legalize drugs, tax drugs, and use those tax revenues to treat the addicts; as it is now, our income tax is used to "treat" addicts (and non-problem users) with prison sentences.

Many people, due to a misplaced sense of righteousness, don't want to see these criminal organizations (like the Hell's Angels) become legitimate when drugs are legalized. I think the cycle of violence needs to stop. I would like to see the Hell's Angels become a legal business instead of the pack of murderers they seem to be.