Do they prefer buying oil from terrorists

[petros]

How many of the wells along that pipeline route are already contaminated by nitrates from 70 years of fertilizer use especially these new "green" techniques where anhydrous ammonia is pumped right into their water supply.

What would their reaction be is they were told to stop using nitrogen to grow their crops?

It's their land, if they want more that should be their right.

They only own the top 2 feet.

 

[EagleSmack]

The US has a big decision to make. Not only does the opportunity exist fro the oil sands to export to Asia via the West coast ports, but there are plans for 3 LNG facilities out there as well.

It's very much in Canada's best interests to service these markets as it will create a more competitive landscape for the resource, but in doing so, it may have a big impact on the cost of fueling the US economy.

I hope you do build it and we will be sorry. Clearly my government feels it is better lining the pockets of ME countries instead of taking advantage of resources here in the US.

No matter how much we complain they will do as they please... both parties.

Not in their backyard, would be my guess.

That would be a good guess. I'd say you're spot on.

 

[petros]

Dollars to donuts those Nebraski farmers are already burning Canadian diesel and heating their houses with CDN nat gas. Go ****in' figure!

 

[EagleSmack]

I'm sure they're not the only ones down here using it.

It's a case of NIMBY.

 

[Tonington]

They only own the top 2 feet.

Which will have to be disturbed and in the case of an oil spill, the details of which were scant, the EPA wants to see better plans, especially after the recent spills. It boggles my mind that in the past go-aheads were given without solid disaster plans.

 

[petros]

Which will have to be disturbed and in the case of an oil spill, the details of which were scant, the EPA wants to see better plans, especially after the recent spills. It boggles my mind that in the past go-aheads were given without solid disaster plans.

They all get paid well for loses. Very well. I get a G-Note a year from the hydro right of way over my land. If they need to do repairs and drive through my crop I get paid.

Which will have to be disturbed and in the case of an oil spill, the details of which were scant, the EPA wants to see better plans, especially after the recent spills. It boggles my mind that in the past go-aheads were given without solid disaster plans.

You knew Keystone 1 used to be a nat gas line until last year? It's 40 years old.

 

[captain morgan]

I hope you do build it and we will be sorry. Clearly my government feels it is better lining the pockets of ME countries instead of taking advantage of resources here in the US.

I too hope that it is developed, but not under these circumstances that are along the lines of an 'us vs them' scenario. As it stands, some of the political grand-standing may result in the US consumers getting the sh*t-end-of-the-stick for no good reason.

 

[petros]

These Canadian pipelines mean American jobs. Good jobs, good pay and will employ plenty of people all along their routes. Lots of jobs for fitters, welders, iron workers, pumping station and refinery staff.

High fuel prices and unemployment are the top complaints in todays' news but when offered opportunity for mutual prosperity it is shot down due to misinformed tree huggers who think they are getting oil sands oil when in reality it is heavy crude being piped down.

 

[EagleSmack]

When it comes to drilling, etc. for fossil fuels in North America, good paying jobs are inconsequential here in the US.

 

[Tonington]

They all get paid well for loses. Very well. I get a G-Note a year from the hydro right of way over my land. If they need to do repairs and drive through my crop I get paid.

Good for you, it's your land, so do what you want with it.

You knew Keystone 1 used to be a nat gas line until last year? It's 40 years old.

So? New pipeline (the Gulf Coast expansion project) means new regulatory approval.

 

[petros]

Good for you, it's your land, so do what you want with it.

So? New pipeline (the Gulf Coast expansion project) means new regulatory approval.

It already has been approved on April 5th 2010. Now it's braindeads who think it's oil sands oil.

U.S. Climate Protests Shift to Blocking Keystone XL Pipeline Approval | Reuters

Read the article and read them contradict themselves calling heavy crude bitumen. Two completely different ****ing products altogether.

But a summons for civil disobedience at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue this summer
indicates they are unwilling to be anywhere near as lenient about a lightning
rod of a proposed pipeline. It's known as the Keystone XL and it could pump
millions more barrels of heavy crude from Alberta,
Canada's oil sands mines to refineries along the U.S. Gulf Coast if the federal
government greenlights it.

Treehuggers need some smarter people hugging trees.

 

[Tonington]

TransCanada calls it a crude oil pipeline...

 

[petros]

TransCanada calls it a crude oil pipeline...

It is indeed a crude oil pipeline. Heavy crude that comes from deep in the ground and is not mined like bitumen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_crude_oil

 

[mentalfloss]

TransCanada calls it a crude oil pipeline...

 

[petros]

Cock of the walk!

Do tree huggers protest while filling up at a Citgo station which is also heavy crude based gasoline? They have to float that stuff to LA and TX by tanker clear across the Carribean.

 

[EagleSmack]

Cock of the walk!

Do tree huggers protest while filling up at a Citgo station which is also heavy crude based gasoline? They have to float that stuff to LA and TX by tanker clear across the Carribean.

Nope never. And when they take their trips to conferences to find better ways to save the world they fly. Their big browstones that line Beacon Hill in Boston and Cambridge where oil evoporates in the boilers like water on a white hot iron.

My favorite line I heard from an earthy crunchy guy living on Natucket...

"I'm all for saving the Earth and I think we must do something about Global Warming... I just don't want those windmills built on Nantucket. I know that must sound hypocritical."

Ya think?

 

[petros]

I hope they know what poison oak looks like before hugging it.

 

[TenPenny]

Cock of the walk!

Do tree huggers protest while filling up at a Citgo station which is also heavy crude based gasoline? They have to float that stuff to LA and TX by tanker clear across the Carribean.

Did those raving about Chavez in Venezuela stop filling up at Citgo?

 

[taxslave]

I'm opposed to the pipeline simply because I think the refining jobs should be in Canada and ship finished products. That way individual products can be shipped all over the world to the highest bidder and we are not stuck sucking up to the US to try and get paid a fair amount.

 

[captain morgan]

I'm opposed to the pipeline simply because I think the refining jobs should be in Canada and ship finished products. That way individual products can be shipped all over the world to the highest bidder and we are not stuck sucking up to the US to try and get paid a fair amount.

I believe that Canadians would not have the motivation to build more large scale refineries due to NIMBYISM, but we certainly moan when we are forced to but back the product from those that make the sacrifice.