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gerryh

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So much for that!!!
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So much for what? For proving that you don't have the mental ability to understand the difference between pedophilic homosexuality and homosexuality? It's surprising and actually a tad disconcerting since you were a teacher.

It's simple really, the study's have shown, as you have quoted, that the majority of pedophiles are heterosexual males. Most are in male/female relationships and have no attraction to other males EXCEPT prepubescent males.Their pedophilia manifests itself in one of three ways. Attraction to prepubescent males, attraction to prepubescent females or not having a preference.

What if it is true???

Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse

An anecdote:

My brother, my friend and I were discussing this very issue a few years ago, only in passing. I said that I didn't think gays were more attracted to children.....my brother (who is gay) looked at me and said "Haven't spent much time on gay porn sites, have you??"

Shocked the hell out of me.

Unfortunately, the idiots that sit on the SCC have decided that it doesn't matter if it is true or not, it must not be said.

Beyond belief.


Your brother is full of shyte, I would even go so far as to say he is an outright liar. Or.... he's projecting.
 

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THAT is giving benefit of the doubt?? I don't think you quite understand the phrase.

There is a huge gray area between indications of certain desires and actual violation of the law.

I promise you, my brother would report actual exploitation of a child in a heartbeat.

And the anecdote is true.

And you should have some basis before you suggest that someone is a liar.

Actually I DIDN'T call your brother a liar. I said you were full of BS because if what you said was true then - to be blunt - your brother likes checking out porn sites of men and kids, or it never happened. If you brother has seen such things and reported it, then good, but he really should stop going to such sites.

And yeah, that is me giving you the benefit of the doubt. If I wrote what I felt, I WOULD have called you a liar, like Gerryh did. Instead I'd rather just assume you made the story up to try and prove your point.


From your link:

HUH???????? I'm sorry, sexual abuse of a male by a male IS homosexuality



From that link

"Offenders are most commonly heterosexual men, even if the victim is a boy."

Once again, male on male IS homosexuality.

In fact, each of your links depends on that same illogical explanation of adult male to male child sexual exploitation...........

So much for that!!!
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Uh, WRONG. Male on male child exploitation is NOT homosexual and, as Gerryh mentioned, most men in these cases ARE attracted to adult women. Hell, some of them are even MARRIED with kids of their own. So really what's your excuse and your outrage for those people?

Adult on child abuse is not about sex, it's about POWER. Some prefer the power over girl children, some prefer it over boy children, and some just don't care, a child is a child that they can control, they can own, possess, etc.

Those links don't negate my point that ANY adult, be they heterosexual OR homosexual, that abuses a child makes them a PEDOPHILE. To me, THAT is their "sex" and in either case it's wrong, evil, vile, etc. These people - men and women both - are not straight, they're not gay, they're pedophiles.

As you said, "So much for that!!"

That's right. Which homosexuality is, lol.

Yes it is. Even the studies you would forward about monkey's, sheep and whatnot, say the same thing.

Even geneticists studying the genetic aspects of call it an anomaly.

Even those that claim it's caused by nurture, call it an anomaly.

It is out of step with the natural process of procreation in all species, except asexual, and is anomalous. Ergo unnatural.

Bonobos.

Sorry Bear but Bonobos actually disprove your claim. Bonobos partake in not just homosexuality but are in essence bisexual. They'll get together with anyone for pleasure, for stress, to settle arguments. It's all natural. Not an anomaly, it's not unnatural, it's how they live. Homosexuality does have a purpose, we're only just seeing/looking for it because it's only recently people actually gave a crap enough to want to look for it. Same with why "suddenly" so many people seem gay; it's not a sudden thing but rather the time has made it more likely that being gay isn't the death sentence in some places it was.
 

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So much for what? For proving that you don't have the mental ability to understand the difference between pedophilic homosexuality and homosexuality? It's surprising and actually a tad disconcerting since you were a teacher.

It's simple really, the study's have shown, as you have quoted, that the majority of pedophiles are heterosexual males. Most are in male/female relationships and have no attraction to other males EXCEPT prepubescent males.Their pedophilia manifests itself in one of three ways. Attraction to prepubescent males, attraction to prepubescent females or not having a preference.




Your brother is full of shyte, I would even go so far as to say he is an outright liar. Or.... he's projecting.

You're an arzehole Gerry, but I talk to you anyway, and usually try to be polite.

Your inability to see beyond what is an obvious academic attempt to avoid accusations of elevated levels of pedophilia among homosexual men is charming. Obviously the researchers know nothing, when they classify people as either heterosexual or homosexual. We all fall on the spectrum somewhere, but if you are a man and diddling little boys, you are NOT hard over on the heterosexual side, I don't care who you live with.

Geezus, are you people really that brain-dead, you can't see what obviously is a scientific conclusion based on political correctness??

Indeed, one of the reasons there is such a problem with Catholic priests is the fact that often good Catholics wanting to somehow overcome their own homosexuality join the priesthood, and then find it impossible, to the detriment of the boys in their care.

The idea that the abuse of male children by men has nothing to do with homosexuality is simply ridiculous on the face of it.

THINK, don't just accept.
 

gerryh

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You're an arzehole Gerry, but I talk to you anyway, and usually try to be polite.

Your inability to see beyond what is an obvious academic attempt to avoid accusations of elevated levels of pedophilia among homosexual men is charming. Obviously the researchers know nothing, when they classify people as either heterosexual or homosexual. We all fall on the spectrum somewhere, but if you are a man and diddling little boys, you are NOT hard over on the heterosexual side, I don't care who you live with.

Geezus, are you people really that brain-dead, you can't see what obviously is a scientific conclusion based on political correctness??

Indeed, one of the reasons there is such a problem with Catholic priests is the fact that often good Catholics wanting to somehow overcome their own homosexuality join the priesthood, and then find it impossible, to the detriment of the boys in their care.

The idea that the abuse of male children by men has nothing to do with homosexuality is simply ridiculous on the face of it.

THINK, don't just accept.

Define pedophilia, because I don't think you know what it is.
 

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Now I understand it.

I'm a boinker bee and my purpose in life is to boink breeder bees to make little bees for the gay worker bees to take care of.

Hooray for the boinker bees!

Now to convince my wife....


UPDATE!

She set me straight.

Boinker bees are disposible and a workers can step up to be queen if voted in by the boinker and worker bees by beeing fed royal jelly.

She also says beta wolves will step up to be alpha through age or death of pack leaders.

Bummer
 
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The idea that the abuse of male children by men has nothing to do with homosexuality is simply ridiculous on the face of it.
Actually, it has more to do with age than gender. Otherwise female pedophiles would only choose girls and male pedophiles would only choose boys. Sorry, but both genders choose both.

THINK, don't just accept.
And I might add, THINK, don't just ASSume.
 

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As far as I can conclude, Tom Kott must be a racist.

Decline of Canada's free speech started with Keegstra and Taylor? No mention of the lack of truth as a defense in libel suits? No mention of Little Sisters? Customs can confiscate anything they think is obscene and Kott is ok with that? Tearing down the Oakes test while upholding the USA as a shining example? Because the Miller test is so much better than Oakes? "The American Supreme Court treats citizens as rational adults who can make their own decisions, unlike in Canada where we're regarded as defenseless children." Is Tom Kott really this ignorant? Yet Another Obscenity Trial? We Should Be Ashamed | Alternet

None of these merit a mention? But all these cases about censoring racially premised hatred deserve outrage? Surely attempting to build a case about the sad state of freedom of speech in Canada deserves some mention of the issues about the censorship targeting people who are not bigoted. He might not be a racist, but building up hyperbole on freedom of speech absolutism necessitates mentioning some of these other examples and he doesn't even give them a passing mention.
 

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With his defence of keegstra, I can see why you like him. For me, he isnt worth the shyte in a toilet.


Which is exactly the point:

It is not popular speech, or politically correct speech that requires protection.......it is speech on the fringes, outside the ordinary.

I do understand that the "progressives" hate the mass of the people, and think they are so stupid they can not be exposed to asinine ideas for fear they will convert whole-heartedly to Naziism or gay murder.......

But those of us who do trust in democracy and the sense of the common man realise that freedom of speech is the cornerstone of an open and free society,

And therefore our Charter, and our Supreme Court, are a complete farce.
 

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Which is exactly the point:

It is not popular speech, or politically correct speech that requires protection.......it is speech on the fringes, outside the ordinary.

I do understand that the "progressives" hate the mass of the people, and think they are so stupid they can not be exposed to asinine ideas for fear they will convert whole-heartedly to Naziism or gay murder.......

But those of us who do trust in democracy and the sense of the common man realise that freedom of speech is the cornerstone of an open and free society,

And therefore our Charter, and our Supreme Court, are a complete farce.


So, you also feel that keegstra got a raw deal. Good to know.
 

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Bonobos.

Sorry Bear but Bonobos actually disprove your claim.
Not unless they've managed to reproduce while performing homosexual acts.

Same with why "suddenly" so many people seem gay; it's not a sudden thing but rather the time has made it more likely that being gay isn't the death sentence in some places it was.
I agree.
 

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So, you also feel that keegstra got a raw deal. Good to know.

Actually, you are wrong on that, at least partially.

Keegstra was teaching his history class that the Holocaust was a fraud.

For that, he needed to be fired for incompetence.

However, the legal charges were unnecessary, and IMHO outrageous in a free country.