Democrat Party Civil War Begins

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Liberal revolt threatens to derail House Democrats on their first day in charge

House Democratic leaders faced the prospect of a liberal rebellion on their first day in charge after prominent Democrats said they would oppose a package of rules changes endorsed by Nancy Pelosi, the incoming speaker.
Rep. Ro Khanna (Calif.) and Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.) said they would vote against the rules changes on Thursday — in the second vote Democrats will take in the majority, after electing Pelosi (D-Calif.) — because of the inclusion of a fiscal measure known as “pay as you go,” or PAYGO. That rule, echoing a provision in federal law and in the Senate’s rules, would require the House to offset any spending so as not to increase the budget deficit.
It remains to be seen whether the liberals will have the votes to torpedo the rules package, which sets the parameters for the new House. Defeat of the legislation would be an embarrassing setback for Pelosi that could herald future division in the Democratic caucus. In the near term, however, Democrats could regroup and revise the measureto win votes and move ahead on the House’s work, including a vote on legislation to reopen the government.
Liberals such as Khanna and Ocasio-Cortez — and activists on the political left — argue that PAYGO amounts to a legislative straitjacket that could impede their efforts to pass ambitious social programs. And they are especially dubious of its necessity after congressional Republicans waived the law in 2017 to pass a tax bill that added more than $1.5 trillion to the federal deficit over its first decade.
“This is in no way a vote against the leadership; this is a vote against austerity economics that has caused great harm to middle class and working families,” Khanna said in an interview Wednesday. “I don’t think we need to handcuff ourselves in ways that Republicans never have.”
Ocasio-Cortez announced her opposition in a tweet: “PAYGO isn’t only bad economics . . . it’s also a dark political maneuver designed to hamstring progress” on health care and other legislation.
Beyond Khanna and Ocasio-Cortez, however, opposition to the proposal appeared muted Wednesday. Several high-profile freshman Democrats — Reps.-elect Rashida Tlaib (Mich.), Ilhan Omar (Minn.) and Ayanna Pressley (Mass.) — have not taken a public position.
Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio) said in a statement that PAYGO “is a no go for me” and that the rule could obstruct “critical investments in education, infrastructure, and health care” but stopped short of saying definitively that he would vote against the rules changes.
The co-chairs of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, Reps. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.) and Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), said they would support the overall rules package despite their opposition to PAYGO, citing a commitment from House leaders that the provision “will not be an impediment to advancing key progressive priorities” in the new Congress.
“We all agree that the real problem with PAYGO exists in the statute that requires it,” they said in a statement. “That is why we will be introducing legislation in the 116th Congress to end PAYGO.”
House Democratic leaders agreed last year to drop another rule proposal opposed by Pocan and Jayapal, one that would have made it more difficult to pass legislation raising taxes.
The PAYGO rules date back nearly 30 years, to Congress’s initial attempts to rein in the budget deficits of the 1980s. But the rules fell by the wayside amid the budget surpluses of the 1990s.
When Democrats took control of Congress in 2007, they included PAYGO provisions in their rules, and in 2010, they wrote it into federal law. But Republicans never included the measure in House rules, and the law has been repeatedly waived over the years — making the practical effect of the law questionable.

Drew Hammill, a spokesman for Pelosi, responded to Khanna on Twitter on Wednesday by pointing out that the federal law remains in place regardless of what rules House Democrats adopt — and that including the measure in the rules would allow Democrats to “designate appropriate offsets” rather than allow the Trump administration to make the across-the-board cuts mandated in law.
“A vote AGAINST the Democratic Rules package is a vote to let Mick Mulvaney make across the board cuts, unilaterally reversing Democratic initiatives and funding increases,” he said, referring to the budget director and acting White House chief of staff.
Having a splinter group of lawmakers stand up against party leadership is nothing new in the House — the hard-right House Freedom Caucus did so routinely over the past four years of GOP control. But it is something that Pelosi and Democratic leaders had hoped to avoid on their first day in power.
Ocasio-Cortez appeared to solicit opposition to the PAYGO rule, retweeting a message Wednesday that it would take 18 Democratic no votes to block the rules package. But Khanna said he was not encouraging colleagues to vote against it and otherwise praised Pelosi and incoming Rules Committee Chairman Jim McGovern (Mass.) for the rest of the package.
The proposed rules, released Tuesday night, include a number of reforms — including a rule allowing members to wear religious headwear on the House floor for the first time, provisions giving bipartisan bills a clearer path to floor consideration and the establishment of a special committee to address the climate crisis.
“This is not some strategy of coordination where [members] are trying to torpedo the rules package,” Khanna said. “It’s a single member who cares deeply about economic policymaking a point about the direction we should go, and hopefully leadership will take it in that spirit.”

AOC making her mark on her first day
 

Curious Cdn

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I think the Trumpites and Smack need to bone up on their Mandarin.
The scary part are the lineups of really nasty entities that are wanting to fill the vacuum being made as America folds up into it's tortoise shell (again).
 

Danbones

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The scary part are the lineups of really nasty entities that are wanting to fill the vacuum being made as America folds up into it's tortoise shell (again).
Jeez the commie globalist trumphating lying racist pedo weiner nazis are sure stupid about reality...
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...and you wonder why you are considered by all the sane people to be comparable to a dyingosaur.
 

Danbones

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I think the Trumpites and Smack need to bone up on their Mandarin.
Says the raging trumphating commie.
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Should we be expecting the same ole #metoo scandal that bernie just gave the world from you too?

Bernie Sanders got wrapped up in a #MeToo scandal that could ruin his 2020 chances
https://patriotpulse.net/bernie-san...too-scandal-that-could-ruin-his-2020-chances/

I guess your projecting chinese friends don't like his brand of commie retardedness...doesn't plan to kill enough of his own people I guess. That's why they liked Hitlary so much - she would have stepped right up like a champ.
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I think the Trumpites and Smack need to bone up on their Mandarin.
Been to Richmond British Columbia lately ? Noticed how many MLA’s and MP’s are of Chinese extraction ? Maybe it is you that should be boning up on Mandarin.
 

Curious Cdn

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Been to Richmond British Columbia lately ? Noticed how many MLA’s and MP’s are of Chinese extraction ? Maybe it is you that should be boning up on Mandarin.
Imagine the quality of hostage that they would make if we played by Chinese rules?
 

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If only Trump they didn't need 40 of them to get anything done.