Deadly US "interventions" World wide
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Real thumbs up to the title: Killing the terrorists was great news. Support terrorists, then suffer the consequences. Have to read between the lines when sources like that are used.
OB is a scientician?
Is scientician the new obsessed ideologue?
3 and a quarter lines, makes reading between the lines a short read.
Or possibly a scientologist... They're kinda the same
Not according to the administration at Bovine University... Minute 1:20 explains all.
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Drones Have Flown 3 Million Hours from 60 Bases Around the World
by John Glaser, November 02, 2011
Flying all over the world, increasingly sophisticated drones have been in the air much longer than is official acknowledged. According to statistics provided by the Army, Navy and Air Force, remotely piloted aircraft have flown around 2.7 million flight hours, and more than 87 percent of the time, these drones have been involved in combat. At least U.S. military and CIA 60 drone bases are peppered across the globe and their use is only getting more ubiquitous and more ominously capable at killing.
Drones Have Flown 3 Million Hours from 60 Bases Around the World -- News from Antiwar.com
and a pattern is evolving ..
by John Glaser, November 02, 2011
Flying all over the world, increasingly sophisticated drones have been in the air much longer than is official acknowledged. According to statistics provided by the Army, Navy and Air Force, remotely piloted aircraft have flown around 2.7 million flight hours, and more than 87 percent of the time, these drones have been involved in combat. At least U.S. military and CIA 60 drone bases are peppered across the globe and their use is only getting more ubiquitous and more ominously capable at killing.
Drones Have Flown 3 Million Hours from 60 Bases Around the World -- News from Antiwar.com
and a pattern is evolving ..
Why use the gas-guzzler model?
To help aid in its victorious raid on Tripoli, Libyan rebels used small drones to gather intelligence on Col. Moammar Kadafi’s forces, according to a Canadian drone maker.
Aeryon Labs Inc., based in Waterloo, Ontario, issued a news release that said the Transitional National Council, a formal name of the Libyan rebel force, has been using a hovering mini-robotic aircraft day and night to determine the locations of enemy troops and artillery positions.
The disclosure is the latest example of how drones are transforming modern warfare.
Aeryon Labs offers this description of the robotic aircraft:
See the video above for an idea of the drone’s capabilities and its appearance. (Remember *batteries not included?)
Libyan rebels use mini-drones in march on Tripoli [Video] - latimes.com
To help aid in its victorious raid on Tripoli, Libyan rebels used small drones to gather intelligence on Col. Moammar Kadafi’s forces, according to a Canadian drone maker.
Aeryon Labs Inc., based in Waterloo, Ontario, issued a news release that said the Transitional National Council, a formal name of the Libyan rebel force, has been using a hovering mini-robotic aircraft day and night to determine the locations of enemy troops and artillery positions.
The disclosure is the latest example of how drones are transforming modern warfare.
Aeryon Labs offers this description of the robotic aircraft:
The Aeryon Scout is a small, easy-to-fly man-packable flying robotic reconnaissance system design for operation in real-world, harsh conditions. It weighs just 3 pounds, packs into a suitcase or a backpack and can be quickly and easily deployed and operated by soldiers in the field. Instead of using joysticks, the Scout uses a map-based, touch-screen interface that allows new users to pilot the system in just minutes. The Scout essentially flies itself allowing the operator to focus on acquiring imagery.
The company said it “immediately” delivered the drone “to those fighting at the front” by a Canadian security company called Zariba Security Corp., which also trained the rebels on how to use it.
See the video above for an idea of the drone’s capabilities and its appearance. (Remember *batteries not included?)
Libyan rebels use mini-drones in march on Tripoli [Video] - latimes.com
CIA Drones Kill Large Groups Without Knowing Who They Are
CIA Drones Kill Large Groups Without Knowing Who They Are | Danger Room | Wired.com
CIA Drones Kill Large Groups Without Knowing Who They Are | Danger Room | Wired.com
US drone attacks kill dozens in Somalia
PressTV - US drone attacks kill dozens in Somalia
So killing en masse and not even knowing who the targets are.....is just fine with you??
tell me that it isn't so...
PressTV - US drone attacks kill dozens in Somalia
So killing en masse and not even knowing who the targets are.....is just fine with you??
tell me that it isn't so...
They will be along anytime, they are just finding the proper wording so stocks will rise for the various companies that make the drones.
They always have a target when a drone is given its orders you fire. If that/those people happen to be having a meeting/party then they all get taken out. The drones used today are very sophisticated and very reliant. In other words they hit their intended targets.
The expansion of the CIA’s undeclared drone war in the tribal areas of Pakistan required a big expansion of who can be marked for death. Once the standard for targeted killing was top-level leadership in al-Qaeda or one of its allies. That’s long gone, especially as the number of people targeted at once has grown. This is the new standard, according to a blockbuster piece in the Wall Street Journal: “men believed to be militants associated with terrorist groups, but whose identities aren’t always known.” The CIA is now killing people without knowing who they are, on suspicion of association with terrorist groups. The article does not define the standards are for “suspicion” and “association.”
Strikes targeting those people — usually “groups” of such people — are called “signature” strikes. “The bulk of CIA’s drone strikes are signature strikes,” the Journal’s Adam Entous, Siobhan Gorman and Julian E. Barnes report.
And bulk really means bulk. The Journal reports that the growth in clusters of people targeted by the CIA has required the agency to tell its Pakistani counterparts about mass attacks. When the agency expects to kill 20 or more people at once, then it’s got to give the Pakistanis notice.
Determining who is a target not a question of intelligence collection. The cameras on the CIA fleet of Predators and Reapers work just fine. It’s a question of intelligence analysis — interpreting the imagery collected from the drones, and from the spies and spotters below, to understand who’s a terrorist and who, say, drops off the terrorists’ laundry. Admittedly, in a war with a shadowy enemy, it can be difficult to distinguish between the two.
Fundamentally, though, it’s a question of policy: whether it’s acceptable for the CIA to kill someone without truly knowing if he’s the bombsmith or the laundry guy.
CIA Drones Kill Large Groups Without Knowing Who They Are | Danger Room | Wired.com
Strikes targeting those people — usually “groups” of such people — are called “signature” strikes. “The bulk of CIA’s drone strikes are signature strikes,” the Journal’s Adam Entous, Siobhan Gorman and Julian E. Barnes report.
And bulk really means bulk. The Journal reports that the growth in clusters of people targeted by the CIA has required the agency to tell its Pakistani counterparts about mass attacks. When the agency expects to kill 20 or more people at once, then it’s got to give the Pakistanis notice.
Determining who is a target not a question of intelligence collection. The cameras on the CIA fleet of Predators and Reapers work just fine. It’s a question of intelligence analysis — interpreting the imagery collected from the drones, and from the spies and spotters below, to understand who’s a terrorist and who, say, drops off the terrorists’ laundry. Admittedly, in a war with a shadowy enemy, it can be difficult to distinguish between the two.
Fundamentally, though, it’s a question of policy: whether it’s acceptable for the CIA to kill someone without truly knowing if he’s the bombsmith or the laundry guy.
CIA Drones Kill Large Groups Without Knowing Who They Are | Danger Room | Wired.com
Fat Man and Little Boy hit there intended targets as well. The point is that innocent people get killed and that is more than acceptable to some.
Unfortunately a 500 lb bomb takes out more than one house in a neighborhood, it takes out the neighborhood. When your enemy hides out in a civilian area it is unfortunate for the civilians who allow it to happen. I know of no one who wants to hurt or kill innocents on purpose except individuals like the drug lords, Arab extremists and a few individuals around the world. We are a long way off from living in a utopia and sometimes you have to do what must be done to help solve the problem.