Day of the Lord, wrath and blessings

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Megahurtz post#19... like most of his posts are simple C/P s from other web sites like this one
Day of the Lord, literalist version.
Just like selfshame and French parrot
That's because my handle over there is Wayfaring Stranger. Here is the next part and I will post it @Godlike tomorrow at 10AM.

Zep:1:1:
The word of the LORD which came unto Zephaniah the son of Cushi,
the son of Gedaliah,
the son of Amariah,
the son of Hizkiah,
in the days of Josiah the son of Amon,
king of Judah.

The passage below is part of the 7 vials determination. The Beasts of the field and birds that are invited to feed on the flesh of men are killed by Christ after. The feast is payment to the blood sacrifices that took place from when God killed a lamb to sew some clothes for Adam and Eve as protection after the exile from the garden. By removing all other flesh they are spared being killed at the end of the 1,000 year reign as anything not sinless and knowing about good and evil is sent to the fiery. With Christ taking away their breath of life it means He has set a way to reward them for that ‘sin’. The covenant would allow them to be made healthy just like fish are able to live in the former Dead Sea.

Ho:2:18:
And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field,
and with the fowls of heaven,
and with the creeping things of the ground:
and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth,
and will make them to lie down safely.

Lu:12:6:
Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings,
and not one of them is forgotten before God?
Lu:12:7:
But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Fear not therefore:
ye are of more value than many sparrows.

Being remembered by the God of Life when you are already in the grave is never a bad thing. This is a verse that is fulfilled at the start of the new earth era.

Isa:60:22:
A little one shall become a thousand,
and a small one a strong nation:
I the LORD will hasten it in his time.

Zep:1:2:
I will utterly consume all things from off the land,
saith the LORD.
Zep:1:3:
I will consume man and beast;
I will consume the fowls of the heaven,
and the fishes of the sea,
and the stumblingblocks with the wicked;
and I will cut off man from off the land,
saith the LORD.

The vials make a clean sweep, the 144,000 from the 12Tribes will see it unfold from the mountain top where Christ, Moses and Elias were seen in a vision. On the day of the return they will be in the holy land in their glorified body, along with the rest of the whole House of Israel. The fish in the Dead Sea will be the ‘other flesh’ alive after the feast is finished.

Zep:1:4-6:
I will also stretch out mine hand upon Judah,
and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem;
and I will cut off the remnant of Baal from this place,
and the name of the Chemarims with the priests;
And them that worship the host of heaven upon the housetops;
and them that worship and that swear by the LORD,
and that swear by Malcham;
And them that are turned back from the LORD;
and those that have not sought the LORD,
nor enquired for him.

The path of the possession starts at Jerusalem, it is quite likely the path will follow the list given in Jeremiah:25. The online Bible Atlas makes the connections easier.

Zep:1:7-9:
Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord GOD:
for the day of the LORD is at hand:
for the LORD hath prepared a sacrifice,
he hath bid his guests.
And it shall come to pass in the day of the LORD's sacrifice,
that I will punish the princes,
and the king's children,
and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.
In the same day also will I punish all those that leap on the threshold,
which fill their masters' houses with violence and deceit.

The princes and kings would be part of the 2/3 that die on that day. The Beast gives 10 men kingdoms in Re:17 and 3 may be taken over by 1 if the vision in Da:7 is to be taken that way. Strange apparel would be whatever uniform Satan and the Beast can come up with.

Zep:1:10
And it shall come to pass in that day,
saith the LORD,
that there shall be the noise of a cry from the fish gate,
and an howling from the second,
and a great crashing from the hills.
Zep:1:11

Howl,
ye inhabitants of Maktesh,
for all the merchant people are cut down;
all they that bear silver are cut off.

Holy Angels do the searching for Christ.

M't:13:41:
The Son of man shall send forth his angels,
and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend,
and them which do iniquity;

Re:14:15-20:
And another angel came out of the temple,
crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud,
Thrust in thy sickle,
and reap:
for the time is come for thee to reap;
for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth;
and the earth was reaped.
And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven,
he also having a sharp sickle.
And another angel came out from the altar,
which had power over fire;
and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth;
for her grapes are fully ripe.
And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth,
and gathered the vine of the earth,
and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
And the winepress was trodden without the city,
and blood came out of the winepress,
even unto the horse bridles,
by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.




Zep:1:12:
And it shall come to pass at that time,
that I will search Jerusalem with candles,
and punish the men that are settled on their lees:
that say in their heart,
The LORD will not do good,
neither will he do evil.
Zep:1:13:
Therefore their goods shall become a booty,
and their houses a desolation:
they shall also build houses,
but not inhabit them;
and they shall plant vineyards,
but not drink the wine thereof.

Some people think they go to heaven and then come back to rid the world of evil people, until they read this passage about holy angels searching out evil people and then they want nothing to do with it.

Joe:2:1-11:
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion,
and sound an alarm in my holy mountain:
let all the inhabitants of the land tremble:
for the day of the LORD cometh,
for it is nigh at hand;
A day of darkness and of gloominess,
a day of clouds and of thick darkness,
as the morning spread upon the mountains:
a great people and a strong;
there hath not been ever the like,
neither shall be any more after it,
even to the years of many generations.
A fire devoureth before them;
and behind them a flame burneth:
the land is as the garden of Eden before them,
and behind them a desolate wilderness;
yea,
and nothing shall escape them.
The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses;
and as horsemen,
so shall they run.
the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap,
like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble,
as a strong people set in battle array.
Before their face the people shall be much pained:
all faces shall gather blackness.
They shall run like mighty men;
they shall climb the wall like men of war;
and they shall march every one on his ways,
and they shall not break their ranks:
Neither shall one thrust another;
they shall walk every one in his path:
and when they fall upon the sword,
they shall not be wounded.
They shall run to and fro in the city;
they shall run upon the wall,
they shall climb up upon the houses;
they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
The earth shall quake before them;
the heavens shall tremble:
the sun and the moon shall be dark,
and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army:
for his camp is very great:
for he is strong that executeth his word:
for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible;
and who can abide it?

Zep:1:14:
The great day of the LORD is near,
it is near,
and hasteth greatly,
even the voice of the day of the LORD:
the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.

The crying men would be the ones in the verses below, the time would be the early part of the day the two witnesses are resurrected.

Zep:1:15:
That day is a day of wrath,
a day of trouble and distress,
a day of wasteness and desolation,
a day of darkness and gloominess,
a day of clouds and thick darkness,
Zep:1:16:
A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities,
and against the high towers.

Both of these are summation verses and there are some passages that explain the details.

Zep:1:17:
And I will bring distress upon men,
that they shall walk like blind men,
because they have sinned against the LORD:
and their blood shall be poured out as dust,
and their flesh as the dung.
Zep:1:18:
Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD's wrath;
but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy:
for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.

Zep:2:1-3:
Gather yourselves together,
yea,
gather together,
O nation not desired;
Before the decree bring forth,
before the day pass as the chaff,
before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you,
before the day of the LORD's anger come upon you.
Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth,
which have wrought his judgment;
seek righteousness,
seek meekness:
it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD's anger.


Zep:2:4:
For Gaza shall be forsaken,
and Ashkelon a desolation:
they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day,
and Ekron shall be rooted up.
Zep:2:5:
Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast,
the nation of the Cherethites!
the word of the LORD is against you;
O Canaan,
the land of the Philistines,
I will even destroy thee,
that there shall be no inhabitant.

This is the start of an event that goes to the 4 corners of the globe as indicated by a few words in some very important passages.

Re:16:19:
And the great city was divided into three parts,
and the cities of the nations fell:
and great Babylon came in remembrance before God,
to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

Eze:39:6:
And I will send a fire on Magog,
and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles:
and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Jer:25:33:
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.

To do justice to the verses below a lot of other passages are going to be referenced and that is a deeper study. Deeper meaning that this is about the term ‘day of the lord’ and that one is likely a look at what turns up when the term ‘that day’ is referenced. Many are similar to this document and the others are good at filling in a few blanks so it goes pretty quickly. Slightly longer than normal reading speed is the shortest time allowed.

Zep:2:6-10:
And the sea coast shall be dwellings and cottages for shepherds,
and folds for flocks.
And the coast shall be for the remnant of the house of Judah;
they shall feed thereupon:
in the houses of Ashkelon shall they lie down in the evening:
for the LORD their God shall visit them,
and turn away their captivity.
I have heard the reproach of Moab,
and the revilings of the children of Ammon,
whereby they have reproached my people,
and magnified themselves against their border.
Therefore as I live,
saith the LORD of hosts,
the God of Israel,
Surely Moab shall be as Sodom,
and the children of Ammon as Gomorrah,
even the breeding of nettles,
and saltpits, and a perpetual desolation:
the residue of my people shall spoil them,
and the remnant of my people shall possess them.
This shall they have for their pride,
because they have reproached and magnified themselves against the people of the LORD of hosts.

The remnant is referencing the 144,000 from the 12 Tribes, they are the manifestation of the one line that points to them being stressed to the max.

De:4:26-31:
I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day,
that ye shall soon utterly perish from off the land whereunto ye go over Jordan to possess it;
ye shall not prolong your days upon it,
but shall utterly be destroyed.
And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations,
and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen,
whither the LORD shall lead you.
And there ye shall serve gods,
the work of men's hands,
wood and stone,
which neither see,
nor hear,
nor eat,
nor smell.
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.

The 144,000 are protected, the two witnesses are protected, a certain number of Gentiles have repented their sins and they are protected until the day the two witnesses are killed. The day they are resurrected to join the 144,000 and the others is the day protection is not needed as they are immortal beings of the 2nd birth. The ones tormenting them and putting their lives in danger in the first place are killed first as that removes sin from existing in the Kingdom of God and temptation to sin is removed when people receive a new heart.

Jer:31:23-34:
Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
the God of Israel;
As yet they shall use this speech in the land of Judah and in the cities thereof,
when I shall bring again their captivity;
The LORD bless thee,
O habitation of justice,
and mountain of holiness. And there shall dwell in Judah itself,
and in all the cities thereof together,
husbandmen,
and they that go forth with flocks.
For I have satiated the weary soul,
and I have replenished every sorrowful soul.
Upon this I awaked,
and beheld;
and my sleep was sweet unto me.
Behold,
the days come,
saith the LORD,
that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man,
and with the seed of beast.
And it shall come to pass,
that like as I have watched over them,
to pluck up,
and to break down,
and to throw down,
and to destroy,
and to afflict;
so will I watch over them,
to build,
and to plant,
saith the LORD.
In those days they shall say no more,
The fathers have eaten a sour grape,
and the children's teeth are set on edge.
But every one shall die for his own iniquity:
every man that eateth the sour grape,
his teeth shall be set on edge.
Behold,
the days come,
saith the LORD,
that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel,
and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt;
which my covenant they brake,
although I was an husband unto them,
saith the LORD:
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days,
saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
and write it in their hearts;
and will be their God,
and they shall be my people.
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother,
saying,
Know the LORD:
for they shall all know me,
from the least of them unto the greatest of them,
saith the LORD;
for I will forgive their iniquity,
and I will remember their sin no more.

Zep:2:11:
The LORD will be terrible unto them:
for he will famish all the gods of the earth;
and men shall worship him,
every one from his place,
even all the isles of the heathen.
Ye Ethiopians also,
ye shall be slain by my sword.
And he will stretch out his hand against the north,
and destroy Assyria;
and will make Nineveh a desolation,
and dry like a wilderness.

The full list is in Jeremiah:25. It takes a few hours at Jerusalem where it starts, to cover the globe on the day it would have to travel at the same rate the sun crosses the ground.

Zep:2:14:
And flocks shall lie down in the midst of her,
all the beasts of the nations:
both the cormorant and the bittern shall lodge in the upper lintels of it;
their voice shall sing in the windows;
desolation shall be in the thresholds:
for he shall uncover the cedar work.

This marks the entrance to the smoking hole that has Satan in chains. The valley that is created in Zec:14 holds the graveyard that is the City of Gog, city of the dead. Together they are Gog and Magog in Satan’s little season before the fiery lake becomes home for eternity.

Zep:2:15:
This is the rejoicing city that dwelt carelessly,
that said in her heart,
I am,
and there is none beside me:
how is she become a desolation,
a place for beasts to lie down in!
every one that passeth by her shall hiss,
and wag his hand.

Zep:3:1-3:
Woe to her that is filthy and polluted,
to the oppressing city!
She obeyed not the voice;
she received not correction;
she trusted not in the LORD;
she drew not near to her God.
Her princes within her are roaring lions;
her judges are evening wolves;
they gnaw not the bones till the morrow.

Zep:3:4:
Her prophets are light and treacherous persons:
her priests have polluted the sanctuary,
they have done violence to the law.
Zep:3:5:
The just LORD is in the midst thereof;
he will not do iniquity:
every morning doth he bring his judgment to light,
he faileth not;
but the unjust knoweth no shame.

Zep:3:6-8:
I have cut off the nations:
their towers are desolate;
I made their streets waste,
that none passeth by:
their cities are destroyed,
so that there is no man,
that there is none inhabitant.
I said,
Surely thou wilt fear me,
thou wilt receive instruction;
so their dwelling should not be cut off,
howsoever I punished them:
but they rose early,
and corrupted all their doings.
Therefore wait ye upon me,
saith the LORD,
until the day that I rise up to the prey:
for my determination is to gather the nations,
that I may assemble the kingdoms,
to pour upon them mine indignation,
even all my fierce anger:
for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.

Zep:3:9:
For then will I turn to the people a pure language,
that they may all call upon the name of the LORD,
to serve him with one consent.
Zep:3:10:
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants,
even the daughter of my dispersed,
shall bring mine offering.

This is a lead-up who the harlot of Re:17 is, she is also a king’s daughter in Daniel:11. The quickest way to identify her is to look at her traits one by one.

Re:18:7:
How much she hath glorified herself,
and lived deliciously,
so much torment and sorrow give her:
for she saith in her heart,
I sit a queen,
and am no widow,
and shall see no sorrow.
La:1:1:
How doth the city sit solitary,
that was full of people!
how is she become as a widow!
she that was great among the nations,
and princess among the provinces,
how is she become tributary!

Re:17:1-6:
And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials,
and talked with me,
saying unto me,
Come hither;
I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication,
and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness:
and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,
full of names of blasphemy,
having seven heads and ten horns.
And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour,
and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls,
having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
And upon her forehead was a name written,
MYSTERY,
BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints,
and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus:
and when I saw her,
I wondered with great admiration.

Re:17:15-18:
And he saith unto me,
The waters which thou sawest,
where the whore sitteth,
are peoples,
and multitudes,
and nations,
and tongues.
And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast,
these shall hate the whore,
and shall make her desolate and naked,
and shall eat her flesh,
and burn her with fire.
For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will,
and to agree,
and give their kingdom unto the beast,
until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city,
which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

The city is Jerusalem during the 4 days the witnesses are killed, during those days it is known as Satan’s Babylon. The vision on the mountain with Christ, Moses and Elias was to be a secret except for the 3 Apostles who saw it. Had it been shown to the men in Matthew:23 the cross would not have taken place. In essence Jesus did to some of the temple staff what God did to Pharaoh so the plagues would all happen rather than he give up too early. The men left in the dark had a role to fulfill during the events that are in the last 42 months before they will be rejoicing in person as they are included in the Re:20:4 resurrection that includes the whole House of Israel. These men in particular would have been the bosses that caused tribulation to the Church when allowed. A role that is a fulfillment of prophecy as they represent ‘the children’ of the ones from the 12 tribes that caused God to send Neb in when he did.

She is a topic that is still under discussion but I see her as being related to the ones receiving this sermon. Not repeated in whole.

M't:23:32-39:
Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
Ye serpents,
ye generation of vipers,
how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Wherefore,
behold,
I send unto you prophets,
and wise men,
and scribes:
and some of them ye shall kill and crucify;
and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues,
and persecute them from city to city:
That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth,
from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias,
whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Verily I say unto you,
All these things shall come upon this generation.
O Jerusalem,
Jerusalem,
thou that killest the prophets,
and stonest them which are sent unto thee,
how often would I have gathered thy children together,
even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings,
and ye would not!
Behold,
your house is left unto you desolate.
For I say unto you,
Ye shall not see me henceforth,
till ye shall say,
Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Da:11:6:
And in the end of years they shall join themselves together;
for the king's daughter of the south shall come to the king of the north to make an agreement:
but she shall not retain the power of the arm;
neither shall he stand,
nor his arm:
but she shall be given up,
and they that brought her,
and he that begat her,
and he that strengthened her in these times.

This is part of the 5th and 6th trump topic and it is far from being a complete work at the moment. The end of that is the start of their downfall, a very fast downfall.

Zep:3:11:
In that day shalt thou not be ashamed for all thy doings,
wherein thou hast transgressed against me:
for then I will take away out of the midst of thee them that rejoice in thy pride,
and thou shalt no more be haughty because of my holy mountain.

I think the many stripes prophecy is for Gentiles so that leaves the beggar Lazarus and the Rich Man prophecy as meaning before the resurrection begin certain members of the 12 Tribes can be sent to hell as Christ has the keys to death and hell before anybody dies and if Satan is the reason the harlot is not there when the 7th trump sounds he alone could be the one that stabs her in the back.
The 10 horns could be languages and in this instance the Tower of Babble would be when the planet went from a pure language to 10 languages that are removed and the pure language will be one sign that God is at work.
The verse below would seem like it can only be for the ones in Matthew:23

Zep:3:12:
I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people,
and they shall trust in the name of the LORD.

The harlot above and the 144,000 below, same 12 Tribes. The power during the trumps is the two witnesses alone, the 144,000 would be offering shelter to whomever God sent their way.

Zep:3:13:
The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity,
nor speak lies;
neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth:
for they shall feed and lie down,
and none shall make them afraid.

Zep:3:14-16:
Sing,
O daughter of Zion;
shout,
O Israel;
be glad and rejoice with all the heart,
O daughter of Jerusalem.
The LORD hath taken away thy judgments,
he hath cast out thine enemy:
the king of Israel,
even the LORD,
is in the midst of thee:
thou shalt not see evil any more.
In that day it shall be said to Jerusalem,
Fear thou not:
and to Zion,
Let not thine hands be slack.

After the 7 vials the book of life in Re:10 is opened up and some names are read out. The names not read out are read out at the Great White Throne event and then mankind is whole again. Before then the 1,000 years should have 10 nations that will all be speaking the same language and be the first ones of the clay to be under the Re:21Law that will be a return of the law that was cancelled when Moses introduced the 10 Commandments. They are suitable for sinners, in the 1,000 years that is the start of mankind in a sin-free earth

Zep:3:17-20:
The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty;
he will save,
he will rejoice over thee with joy;
he will rest in his love,
he will joy over thee with singing.
I will gather them that are sorrowful for the solemn assembly,
who are of thee,
to whom the reproach of it was a burden.
Behold,
at that time I will undo all that afflict thee:
and I will save her that halteth,
and gather her that was driven out;
and I will get them praise and fame in every land where they have been put to shame.
At that time will I bring you again,
even in the time that I gather you:
for I will make you a name and a praise among all people of the earth,
when I turn back your captivity before your eyes,
saith the LORD.
 
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Let me offer some advice.

Let's say that I wish to talk about screwballs. I could cut and paste, but the long winded nature of the post drives people away. So, I would write something like this.

Mhz is a screwball. A nutcase. Not playing with a full deck. You can tell by his long winded, rambling posts. But there are other meanings for the word 'screwball'. Check this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screwball_(disambiguation)
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What I've done there was post, but not prattle on at length about nothing. You should try that.

In our next lesson, we'll talk more about cites, both formal and informal.
 

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Nor your's, what's your point. Stay the fuk off the thread then bitch. You having a hard time figuring that out?? lol Only the brightest of the brightest in your world eh??

Let me offer some advice.

Let's say that I wish to talk about screwballs. I could cut and paste, but the long winded nature of the post drives people away. So, I would write something like this.

Mhz is a screwball. A nutcase. Not playing with a full deck. You can tell by his long winded, rambling posts. But there are other meanings for the word 'screwball'. Check this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screwball_(disambiguation)
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What I've done there was post, but not prattle on at length about nothing. You should try that.

In our next lesson, we'll talk more about cites, both formal and informal.
The thread is about God, a bit out of your league isn't He? Perhaps you should try Aesop's Fables get an adult to explain it as your read the big words.
 

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And posting stuff like that might make you feel better, but does nothing for your credibility or a possible heart murmur. Relax, take a few deep breaths and you'll feel so much better.

Your question of the day: Is this a funny clown or an evil one? Remember to substantiate your opinions and use cites, where required.



And to be clear, your post was not about God. It was an founded swipe that Jewish supporters know little about God. You stated that Jews don't know anything. So please, do not suggest that it was a religious post. It was a third rate attempt to insult the Jews.

Posted to show just how little the Jewish supporters here know about the Book and that not one aspect has been picked up by the Jews who are supposed to know more shit than anybody. It proves they know nothing about their own holy books.

a large portion was cut, and then...

I don't see why they would need to be posted as this alone will mess every poster here up to the point the troll will even look more stupid than usual.
 

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And posting stuff like that might make you feel better,
'Stuff like that' would fill a pretty big room with papers somewhat like the ones I write. The question I'm asking now is why isn't there something I could copy and paste that promotes the same thing, or at least something like it. There isn't or I would have found it by now and if I didn't somebody else would have. The book is the topic rather than 'GOD'. Is it accurate as a literal piece of 'art' by a single author. Jesus was a real person, John the Baptist was the last Prophet called by God in the same light that Moses was. Jesus came from a higher calling, the book contains passages in which He is the 1st person in the theme that a writer mentions himself by name and he then transmits a message from 'somebody else', God or Christ in all cases as nobody else has that authority. The 13th marble is in a net carried by a boy who is holding the right hand of his father. The marble eventually becomes an perfect image of the one holding the child's hand. Welcome to the Kingdom of God. That would be based on the actual text and speculation so I prefer to stick with the 'facts' as you can cover more territory and don't have to back-track even once. God is not involved in our ability to tell fact from fiction. If you are already lost it means I like to take things apart to see how they work.
In the Bible's case I have gone over it quite thoroughly just so I would look like a folks because I though the passage ended with the end of the page in my 1611KJV Bible and it actually spilled over onto the next page. I would hang up my shoes if destruction followed by bodily resurrection was something I missed when it is the Book of Life is the topic.

but does nothing for your credibility
Mine?? How about the biggest Church not knowing that Mary of Bethany is the wife of Christ?? How about the Jews not revealing that the 10 Commandments are the law only during the time of the two bruises from Ge:3:15?? I'm not hearing a lot of condemnation of them coming from you.

or a possible heart murmur.
Bigger the better to tell you the truth.

Relax, take a few deep breaths and you'll feel so much better.
I also produce my own ozone, want some?? Take eye-drops as it tends to dry the air out, for the over 65 crowd.

Your question of the day: Is this a funny clown or an evil one? Remember to substantiate your opinions and use cites, where required.
It's your selfi you tell me. From my side of the fence you appear like somebodies angry little bitch. If you are here to direct the conversation you're paying too much attention to me and I don't play well with strangers. I'm going to enjoy making you my new best friend. They sure don't make them like they used to, right LudLowLife???



And to be clear, your post was not about God.
Only in that He is the best candidate for being the author of the Bible. If we wrote a book would the book become the whole of us or would it remain a book that we had written and the rest of our life was similar to ours but on a much grander scale


It was an founded swipe that Jewish supporters know little about God.
So far biblical discussion is killed as quickly as it can be by the said Jewish supporters, in a very crude and rude way. You might also be basing your judgment, rather than opinion, on by what you have read just here. I've been to lots of sites and a few times I got an actual conversation that went on for more than a few pages, . . . and on topic and in the end we reached a mutual agreement. Other times the grandsons voiced their objections to me getting a reply to a 'Mary/Miriam' question by the real boss of the place, know what I mean?

You stated that Jews don't know anything.
About the book. The have a monopoly on higher education in the west, not so much in India and China. The mentioning of the bruise in Isaiah:53 being related to Ge:3:15 got one person's attention so what came before was worth it. Not one had had any opinion on Isaiah:65 so I stand by my words. They have been perfect in their keeping an honest copy of the texts given to them. Daniel makes it clear that there is more to come before you can understand what the book covers. Base = what the path is like if the world should fall into sin before it is perfected. That way it can be repaired, we were meant to break, that is what 'not being made perfect' means. I know what those books mean, and some of them know it now. It doesn't have to be popular but it does have to be accyrate or the whole exercise is a waste of time (as a hobby)

So please, do not suggest that it was a religious post.
I don't really give a fuk how you take it really. Honesty is the goal if you need a clue what this life is all about

It was a third rate attempt to insult the Jews.
How can I hate 'them' when I love the book they have written?? Your ass kissing is a bigger insult to them than anything I write about their most Holy Book. Maybe you have a stamp I don't know about.

You are going to be delightful to disassemble, too bad it will take so little time. The witching hour won't miss your form of intellect.
 

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At least you made an attempt to be coherent. I suppose one has to be thankful for small things.

But again, you fail. It was still a rambling, unfocused response. You did not refute my statement and cite that your post was not about God.

You need instruction on how to prepare written arguments.

You must learn to form your thoughts and lay them out logically. You did not successfully refute anything I wrote.

Worst of all, you could not defend yourself when you wrote disparaging remarks about Jews.

WRT taking me apart in an intellectual discussion, that's unlikely. I haven't seen any evidence of that coming from you. You don't have the skill set.
 

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At least you made an attempt to be coherent. I suppose one has to be thankful for small things.
There ya go, everything has to be about you and your circumcised dick. Rock bottom is a strange term for you isn't it, Billy?

But again, you fail. It was still a rambling, unfocused response.
Huh??
You did not refute my statement and cite that your post was not about God.
Huh? You mean God as in the 1611KJV Holy Bible based on the Greek for the NT and Hebrew as translated by Jews in Jerusalem??

You need instruction on how to prepare written arguments.
Huh?? I only speak it the English language one way. God wrote the Bible not me so take it up with Him as to why you understand as little as you do at the moment. The trick is to have more answers than questions, real answers.

You must learn to form your thoughts and lay them out logically.
Huh??

You did not successfully refute anything I wrote.
What??

Worst of all, you could not defend yourself when you wrote disparaging remarks about Jews.
In your mind asswipe. You got an actual endorsement for that from a real Jew?? If not you know what goes you know where.

WRT taking me apart in an intellectual discussion, that's unlikely. I haven't seen any evidence of that coming from you. You don't have the skill set.
Then why are you the defenseless one trolling a thread about a subject that completely baffles you?? . . . asswipe
 

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You poor fellow. There's no reason to swear. That is the mark of someone who is intellectually bankrupt.

I think I see a re-occuring theme with your anger. The Jewish people have shown themselves to be militarily stronger than everyone around them. They have some of the sharpest minds on the planet which confounds and angers you. You feel inadequate. Was there a Semite, or a group of Semites that embarrassed or belittled you, growing up?

Perhaps they were better at sports as well. The reference to circumcision tells me a lot.

What is it in your past which festered into a full blown hatred of Jews?

You'll feel better if you talk about it.
 

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You poor fellow. There's no reason to swear.
Bandwidth thing, think of it as term of endearment that aptly applies to only. You are unique that manner, lets hope you don't spread.

That is the mark of someone who is intellectually bankrupt.
The colorful words don't change the body of the message. 'Songbird' would an example of where it belongs when applied to McCain.

I think I see a re-occuring theme with your anger.
What the fuk does that mean?? Would capital letters make that even angrier for you??

The Jewish people have shown themselves to be militarily stronger than everyone around them. They have some of the sharpest minds on the planet which confounds and angers you. You feel inadequate.
Pre-emptive strike is not a recognized military defensive tactic asswipe.

Was there a Semite, or a group of Semites that embarrassed or belittled you, growing up?
Trailer park between 2 Reservations. Where were you guys?? (other than on the other side of the tracks)
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Perhaps they were better at sports as well. The reference to circumcision tells me a lot.
Losing that much skin would affect how long your erection could be wouldn't it??

What is it in your past which festered into a full blown hatred of Jews?
Whatever do you mean, I just called you my new best friend not long ago. You came back so the idea appeals to you.

You'll feel better if you talk about it.
I'll try that approach someday. How does that make you feel??
 

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Day of the Triffids is a good example of why the book is by a single author and why the generation that is going to be effected by what is written about in the last book. With that in mind I’m going to work backwards through the book as the method being used in a general information type of document. The additional verses will stay on topic even if the references are scattered about.

 

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http://malagabay.wordpress.com/2017/07/27/732-ad-and-all-that-a-belief-system-cocktail/


Horus
born Dec 25th
of a virgin
adored by three kings
teacher at 12
baptized ministry at 30
12 disciples
performed miracles
crucified dead three days resurrected

Attis
born of a virgin
on Dec 25th
crucified
dead three days
resurrected

Krishna
born of a virgin
star in the east
performed miracles
reurrected

Dionysus
born of a virgin
Dec 25th
performed miracles
alpha & omega
king of kings
resurrected

Mithra
Born of a virgin Dec 25th
12 disciples
performed miracles
dead three days
resurrected

and Jesus

It's a very old and wide spread story.
 

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I finnaly agree with Cliffy...

I even have a meme for it


Cliffy just saw how many words Mhz cut and pasted, and did what everyone else did, he ignored it.

Sadly, Mhz just doesn't get it. That's why sometimes I think that he comes here posting as selfsame and spilledthebeer. You try to help him out, but he doesn't listen. If he wants to discuss his ideas, no matter how messed up, he has got to learn to do it properly.

He has a foul mouth and a short temper. Neither helps when you are trying to communicate an idea. He cuts and pastes a lot, like selfsame. I doubt whether either of them truly understands the words they copy.

And, of course, neither likes Jews. They are twins.

The three of them must have had messed up childhoods. There had to be something that caused their anger.


 
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Became lord of the underworld rather than being resurrected to life and then becoming lord. Some would call that a really big difference rather than it not even being worth mentioning it is so small of a 'matter'.

A literal doctrine is almost unheard of, that alone should make it worth hearing before judgement can be cast. In this case can 12 men all write about the same event and not have many conflicts without 'some help' being available.

That being said I'm more than open to discussing Sumeria as being what the desert belt is today. The River Jordan would be 1meter deep and 2km wide for the whole area it drains. Use that number to find the difference from today and apply it to all the rivers across the globe and that is what Sumeria would look like. An ice-age where the ones that enter have about 360,000 years in which they can use a better environment for change to take place. Size being based on food consumed and a longer life. The demise of the water would bring the desert regions back. I don't see any issues with that being an era when angels, as defined in the Book of Jude, were free to roam the whole earth. Many stories of Gods would exist and the God of the Bible sent the fallen angels to the Pit during a flood that came at the end of a 360,000 year chunk of time. Men alone could have been almost as smart as we are just before the change in climate took place. Some or all of that could be the actual past and the Bible would still be a literal possibility. It also predicts the world would be melted by heat, it will be about 3,600,000,000 years from now by our own sun. Nobody else but the Bible mentions that .

Cliffy just saw how many words Mhz cut and pasted, and did what everyone else did, he ignored it.
Huh?

Sadly, Mhz just doesn't get it. That's why sometimes I think that he comes here posting as selfsame and spilledthebeer. You try to help him out, but he doesn't listen. If he wants to discuss his ideas, no mater how messed up they are, he has got to learn to do it properly.
Thankfully as my new best friend it is your task, duty even, to help me fit in with a world that doesn't always revolve around honesty for others but always asked, demanded even, by the blight that is currently called the elite when (pay attention as this part is quite important to the discussion) their energy is spent on keeping them as the elite and the rest as useless eaters. There is a solution to that yet they refuse to listen to any other voice than their own. Properly starts with putting something on the table and then accept the critizen that is sure to follow. Luckily for me 'they' have you defending 'them' when you are defenseless in a battle of wits. Proving that is you believing that is not an honest statement.

He has a foul mouth and a short temper. Neither helps when you are trying to communicate an idea. He cuts and pastes a lot, like selfsame. I doubt whether either of them truly understands the words they copy.
You spelled 'write' wrong asswipe.

And, of course, neither likes Jews. They are twins.
If they can pull off the fake new earth verses without it costing the same number of deaths that happened last century then power to them. As it is the last century shouldn't be on anyone's resume. Christian and Muslims are Gentiles as far as the Jews are concerned, I thought you should know that.

The three of them must have had messed up childhoods. There had to be something that caused their anger.
The world has only us as it's defects, me thinks that statement could be challenged if a snapshot of the world was examined then perhaps the Jews are not as good at upper management as they think they are and vanity alone is stopping them from admitting it.

The anger is from you being unable to read or comprehend the topic of this thread. The RCC Clergy doesn't eiher so you aren't alone.



Ob:1:15-18:
For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen:
as thou hast done,
it shall be done unto thee:
thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain,
so shall all the heathen drink continually,
yea,
they shall drink,
and they shall swallow down,
and they shall be as though they had not been.
But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance,
and there shall be holiness;
and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.
And the house of Jacob shall be a fire,
and the house of Joseph a flame,
and the house of Esau for stubble,
and they shall kindle in them,
and devour them;
and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau;
for the LORD hath spoken it.

The drinking is referencing the nations that are forced to drink. Jacob and Joseph is referencing who the whole House of Israel is.

Eze:37:9-17:
Then said he unto me,
Prophesy unto the wind,
prophesy,
son of man,
and say to the wind,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Come from the four winds,
O breath,
and breathe upon these slain,
that they may live.
So I prophesied as he commanded me,
and the breath came into them,
and they lived,
and stood up upon their feet,
an exceeding great army.
he said unto me,
Son of man,
these bones are the whole house of Israel:
behold,
they say,
Our bones are dried,
and our hope is lost:
we are cut off for our parts.
Therefore prophesy and say unto them,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
O my people,
I will open your graves,
and cause you to come up out of your graves,
and bring you into the land of Israel.
And ye shall know that I am the LORD,
when I have opened your graves,
O my people,
and brought you up out of your graves,
And shall put my spirit in you,
and ye shall live,
and I shall place you in your own land:
then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it,
and performed it, saith the LORD.
word of the LORD came again unto me,
saying,
Moreover,
thou son of man,
take thee one stick,
and write upon it,
For Judah,
and for the children of Israel his companions:
then take another stick,
and write upon it,
For Joseph,
the stick of Ephraim,
and for all the house of Israel his companions:
And join them one to another into one stick;
and they shall become one in thine hand.

Jer:31:9:
They shall come with weeping,
and with supplications will I lead them:
I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way,
wherein they shall not stumble:
for I am a father to Israel,
and Ephraim is my firstborn.

The sequence on the day the two witnesses are resurrected is the trump sound, the sinners die because of the effects of the 7 vial and then the book of life is opened. The text for woes 1 and 2 is in Re:9 and Re:10 is the good news part of what comes after the 2nd woe is finished. The two witnesses would have their names read and then the Beloved Disciple and then the rest of the 12 Tribes and then a small selection from the Gentiles, commonly called ‘the Church’. The selections below would be referencing the 144,000 as being alive to see the return and the resurrected who are part of the 3rd and final event of the 1st day of the 1,000 year reign. The other references are pointing to defining where the term ‘land of the enemy’ is during the tribulation that must unfold. The fulfillment was quite harsh so known why it happened seems to have some importance attached to it.




Eze:39:25-29:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD;
Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob,
and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel,
and will be jealous for my holy name;
After that they have borne their shame,
and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me,
when they dwelt safely in their land,
and none made them afraid.
When I have brought them again from the people,
and gathered them out of their enemies' lands,
and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God,
which cause them to be led into captivity among the heathen:
but I have gathered them unto their own land,
and have left none of them any more there.
Neither will I hide my face any more from them:
for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel,
saith the Lord GOD.

Jer:31:15-17:
Thus saith the LORD;
A voice was heard in Ramah,
lamentation,
and bitter weeping;
Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children,
because they were not.
Thus saith the LORD;
Refrain thy voice from weeping,
and thine eyes from tears:
for thy work shall be rewarded,
saith the LORD;
and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
And there is hope in thine end,
saith the LORD,
that thy children shall come again to their own border.

M't:2:16-18:
Then Herod,
when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men,
was exceeding wroth,
and sent forth,
and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem,
and in all the coasts thereof,
from two years old and under,
according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet,
saying,
In Rama was there a voice heard,
lamentation,
and weeping,
and great mourning,
Rachel weeping for her children,
and would not be comforted,
because they are not.

Prophecy and fulfillment points to the land of the enemy being death rather than some far-away Gentile Nation.

Isa:42:9:
Behold,
the former things are come to pass,
and new things do I declare:
before they spring forth I tell you of them.

Am:5:18-20:
Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD!
to what end is it for you?
the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
As if a man did flee from a lion,
and a bear met him;
or went into the house,
and leaned his hand on the wall,
and a serpent bit him.
Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness,
and not light?
even very dark,
and no brightness in it?

Joe:3:1:
For,
behold,
in those days,
and in that time,
when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,

The prophecy is specific to the 7th trump in Re:11 sounding as that marks when that will happen, before then a battle must take place and the two witnesses must die in the war. It should be noted that the people in Judea and celebrating their deaths are Gentiles rather than being Jews. A map of Judea would show you the area that is being referenced. That can be done for Jer:25 and Da;11 also and the results should match quite closely.

Joe:3:2:
I will also gather all nations,
and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat,
and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel,
whom they have scattered among the nations,
and parted my land.

Joe:3:3-5:
And they have cast lots for my people;
and have given a boy for an harlot,
and sold a girl for wine,
that they might drink.
Yea,
and what have ye to do with me,
O Tyre,
and Zidon,
and all the coasts of Palestine?
will ye render me a recompence?
and if ye recompence me,
swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;
Because ye have taken my silver and my gold,
and have carried into your temples my goodly pleasant things:

The armies and people that came into Judea at that time will act like this during the time the two witnesses are in the grave and the rest of the globe would have experienced 3 ½ years of the same people having the power to run the show

Joe:3:6-8:
The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians,
that ye might remove them far from their border.
Behold,
I will raise them out of the place whither ye have sold them,
and will return your recompence upon your own head:
And I will sell your sons and your daughters into the hand of the children of Judah,
and they shall sell them to the Sabeans,
to a people far off:
for the LORD hath spoken it.

Joe:3:9-11:
Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles;
Prepare war,
wake up the mighty men,
let all the men of war draw near;
let them come up:
Beat your plowshares into swords,
and your pruninghooks into spears:
let the weak say,
I am strong.
Assemble yourselves,
and come,
all ye heathen,
and gather yourselves together round about:
thither cause thy mighty ones to come down,
O LORD.

The first ones to feel judgment are the leaders of the nations such as in these two references.

Jer:25:35-38:
And the shepherds shall have no way to flee,
nor the principal of the flock to escape.
A voice of the cry of the shepherds,
and an howling of the principal of the flock,
shall be heard:
for the LORD hath spoiled their pasture.
And the peaceable habitations are cut down because of the fierce anger of the LORD.
He hath forsaken his covert,
as the lion:
for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor,
and because of his fierce anger.

Isa:56:10-12:
His watchmen are blind:
they are all ignorant,
they are all dumb dogs,
they cannot bark;
sleeping, lying down,
loving to slumber.
Yea,
they are greedy dogs which can never have enough,
and they are shepherds that cannot understand:
they all look to their own way,
every one for his gain,
from his quarter.
Come ye,
say they,
I will fetch wine,
and we will fill ourselves with strong drink;
and to morrow shall be as this day,
and much more abundant.

Joe:3:12-14:
Let the heathen be wakened,
and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat:
for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
Put ye in the sickle,
for the harvest is ripe:
come,
get you down;
for the press is full, the fats overflow;
for their wickedness is great.
Multitudes,
multitudes in the valley of decision:
for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.

The sickle reference in revelations is related to the 7 vials that is the 3rd and last woe on the inhabitants of the earth,. Wrath or blessing for 2 different groups.

Joe:3:15-17:
The sun and the moon shall be darkened,
and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
The LORD also shall roar out of Zion,
and utter his voice from Jerusalem;
and the heavens and the earth shall shake:
but the LORD will be the hope of his people,
and the strength of the children of Israel.
So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion,
my holy mountain:
then shall Jerusalem be holy,
and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.

Joe:3:18:
And it shall come to pass in that day,
that the mountains shall drop down new wine,
and the hills shall flow with milk,
and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters,
and a fountain shall come forth of the house of the LORD,
and shall water the valley of Shittim.
Joe:3:19:
Egypt shall be a desolation,
and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness,
for the violence against the children of Judah,
because they have shed innocent blood in their land.

The start of the 2nd is the start of the 7 year cleanup covenant as well as the covenant in Hebrews 12 as being the standard. God makes the same covenant with the people He resurrects at the Great White Throne.

Joe:3:20:
But Judah shall dwell for ever,
and Jerusalem from generation to generation.
Joe:3:21:
For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed:
for the LORD dwelleth in Zion.

Joe:2:18:
Then will the LORD be jealous for his land,
and pity his people.
Joe:2:19:
Yea,
the LORD will answer and say unto his people,
Behold,
I will send you corn,
and wine,
and oil,
and ye shall be satisfied therewith:
and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen:

The heathen will be in the grave and the audience left to hear anything is the whole group that is alive for the 1,000 year reign . Jerusalem is thriving now that war is a thing of the past, from complete devastation to glorious city in that same time. The 12 Tribes being the workmen and the Church brings them gifts to decorate with as they come for the yearly feast of the tabernacles.

Joe:2:20:
But I will remove far off from you the northern army,
and will drive him into a land barren and desolate,
with his face toward the east sea,
and his hinder part toward the utmost sea,
and his stink shall come up,
and his ill savour shall come up,
because he hath done great things.

What is done during the 1,000 years is done as a teaching tool and what is witnessed is a talent they will be able to do when the new earth verses are unfolding.

Joe:2:21-23:
Fear not,
O land;
be glad and rejoice:
for the LORD will do great things.
Be not afraid,
ye beasts of the field:
for the pastures of the wilderness do spring,
for the tree beareth her fruit,
the fig tree and the vine do yield their strength.
Be glad then,
ye children of Zion,
and rejoice in the LORD your God:
for he hath given you the former rain moderately,
and he will cause to come down for you the rain,
the former rain,
and the latter rain in the first month.

Joe:2:24:
And the floors shall be full of wheat,
and the fats shall overflow with wine and oil.
Joe:2:25:
And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten,
the cankerworm,
and the caterpiller,
and the palmerworm,
my great army which I sent among you.

If food is required during that reign them immortality is given at the end of the day rather than at the start. People would be eternal beings and that means they need food to stay alive. Adam died at 930 years and that was 70 years short. The new earth brings that down to 120 years so that could apply as could Adam gaining immortality after being alive for 70 years. Same pattern for all the really old people.

Joe:2:26:
And ye shall eat in plenty,
and be satisfied,
and praise the name of the LORD your God,
that hath dealt wondrously with you:
and my people shall never be ashamed.

Joe:2:27:
And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel,
and that I am the LORD your God,
and none else:
and my people shall never be ashamed.
Joe:2:28:
And it shall come to pass afterward,
that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh;
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
your old men shall dream dreams,
your young men shall see visions:

1,000 year reign and then a reference to the new earth era. First this earth has to be reclaimed by Christ.

Joe:2:29-32:
And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth,
blood,
and fire,
and pillars of smoke.
The sun shall be turned into darkness,
and the moon into blood,
before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
And it shall come to pass,
that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered:
for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance,
as the LORD hath said,
and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
Joe:1:15-17:
Alas for the day!
for the day of the LORD is at hand,
and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.
Is not the meat cut off before our eyes,
yea,
joy and gladness from the house of our God?
The seed is rotten under their clods,
the garners are laid desolate,
the barns are broken down;
for the corn is withered.

The transition from a sinful earth to a sinless earth has certain things that change along with that.
Joe:1-18-20
How do the beasts groan!
the herds of cattle are perplexed,
because they have no pasture;
yea,
the flocks of sheep are made desolate.
O LORD,
to thee will I cry:
for the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness,
and the flame hath burned all the trees of the field.
The beasts of the field cry also unto thee:
for the rivers of waters are dried up,
and the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness.

Only a few left and they are on the longish side so I'll leave then for a few days.
 

Murphy

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You did it again. When you get excited, you blather.

You should consider the help that a calm, uncluttered mind can bring. Buddhism might help you. There is no need to follow all the teachings, as Buddhism is not a religion. It is a method whereby you can calm your frenzied mind. You have trouble there.

You often cut and paste Old Testament writings. Research them so you can understand the ideas that are being expressed. About half the time you get it wrong. You should talk to a rabbi or someone who holds a masters or doctorate of divinity about the meaning of the writings within the Old Testament. These people have spent their lives studying its pages. They can help you overcome your personal limitations.

You should also examine yourself and try to bring your hatred of Jews under control. People might listen to you if you didn't sound so irrational. To put it bluntly, you're seen as a nutbar, but that can be dealt with at the same time you learn to like the Jews. Have you ever been institutionalized?

Your soul is like a well. It can be full of the fresh, cool and invigourating water of life, or dry and barren, like the dessert. You have to start with your own well. You cannot accomplish anything good if your well is dry.
 

darkbeaver

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Became lord of the underworld rather than being resurrected to life and then becoming lord. Some would call that a really big difference rather than it not even being worth mentioning it is so small of a 'matter'.

A literal doctrine is almost unheard of, that alone should make it worth hearing before judgement can be cast. In this case can 12 men all write about the same event and not have many conflicts without 'some help' being available.

That being said I'm more than open to discussing Sumeria as being what the desert belt is today. The River Jordan would be 1meter deep and 2km wide for the whole area it drains. Use that number to find the difference from today and apply it to all the rivers across the globe and that is what Sumeria would look like. An ice-age where the ones that enter have about 360,000 years in which they can use a better environment for change to take place. Size being based on food consumed and a longer life. The demise of the water would bring the desert regions back. I don't see any issues with that being an era when angels, as defined in the Book of Jude, were free to roam the whole earth. Many stories of Gods would exist and the God of the Bible sent the fallen angels to the Pit during a flood that came at the end of a 360,000 year chunk of time.Men alone could have been almost as smart as we are just before the change in climate took place. Some or all of that could be the actual past and the Bible would still be a literal possibility. It also predicts the world would be melted by heat, it will be about 3,600,000,000 years from now by our own sun. Nobody else but the Bible mentions that .



The world is littered with ruins that prove beyond doubt that modern mankind is in a slow recovery of lost science.