Day Care Issue
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Martin just lost some votes in Alberta. Not a big deal. He really isn't concerned if the CPC wins Alberta with 54% or 60%.
Since when are children a "mistake"? You were once a child; were you a "mistake"?
Childcare is the same as schooling or healthcare or roads: all of society benefits from having good roads, even individuals who do not drive; everyone benefits from living in a society where people are educated and healthy, and everyone benefits from living in a society where children are properly supervised and cared for rather than being left to fend for themselves on the streets, and where parents can do their jobs with the peace of mind that comes from knowing that their children are being looked after without it costing the major part of their income FROM that job.
Childcare is the same as schooling or healthcare or roads: all of society benefits from having good roads, even individuals who do not drive; everyone benefits from living in a society where people are educated and healthy, and everyone benefits from living in a society where children are properly supervised and cared for rather than being left to fend for themselves on the streets, and where parents can do their jobs with the peace of mind that comes from knowing that their children are being looked after without it costing the major part of their income FROM that job.
I don't have any kids, yet I pay school taxes and am willing to back a daycare program with my tax money. It doesn't matter if the kids were a "mistake" or not, they do represent our future. The kids' parents, whether they made a "mistake" or not, represent Canadians who work and drive our economy.
..35 said:
I suppose the same theory could be applied to you, only with health care. Why should I have to pay for you, when you could buy your own perfectly good health plan. I mean really, don't be so selfish.
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Its a big jump to go from your broad statements above to supporting exclusively a state-run childcare program. It should be up to parents to choose the childcare situation that works for them, and it is up to parents to determine what is the 'best care' for their own children.
Summer said:
Its a big jump to go from your broad statements above to supporting exclusively a state-run childcare program. It should be up to parents to choose the childcare situation that works for them, and it is up to parents to determine what is the 'best care' for their own children.
They would still be able to opt out and either stay home with their kids or hire private sitters or such, I'm sure, Mike. Just like they don't HAVE to send their kids to state schools - don't you have private schools up there as well?
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Unless I missed it (and please point it out if I did), people can still choose where they want to send their kids, if they have the finances to do so. There are many differnt options, regardless of where the money is coming from. There will stil be private and public centres with homecare prividers either working privately or through and agency. Existing centres will not be closed and homecare providers will not loose their licensing.
MMMike said:
Unless I missed it (and please point it out if I did), people can still choose where they want to send their kids, if they have the finances to do so. There are many differnt options, regardless of where the money is coming from. There will stil be private and public centres with homecare prividers either working privately or through and agency. Existing centres will not be closed and homecare providers will not loose their licensing.
Scot Reid, an elitist spokesman for a corrupt elitist Liberal party said the government had to run the daycare system because if Harper just handed out money to parents they could just spend it on "popcorn and beer"
There you have it, Canadian parents. God forbid that you be allowed to spend your own money..........you drunken popcorn freaks you.
AND it turns out the Liberal plan provides just under $30 per child per week.........to be mostly chewed up in bureaucracy and politically correct training, while the Harper plan puts money in the parents' pockets.
Who would do the most good?
Sweden, according to the Conservative on Question Period, just dropped the national daycare system because of expense and inefficientcy, and went to the direct grant to parents route.
There you have it, Canadian parents. God forbid that you be allowed to spend your own money..........you drunken popcorn freaks you.
AND it turns out the Liberal plan provides just under $30 per child per week.........to be mostly chewed up in bureaucracy and politically correct training, while the Harper plan puts money in the parents' pockets.
Who would do the most good?
Sweden, according to the Conservative on Question Period, just dropped the national daycare system because of expense and inefficientcy, and went to the direct grant to parents route.
Colpy said:
I have a full subsidy for my daughter. When I return to work after Christmas, I won't pay a dime. For those paying full fees, $20 isn't all that much more helpful than the supposed imaginary $30 from Martin, will it?
They could, and many would. Why not? $4.00 a day isn't enough to spend on childcare, but $25.00 a week will buy a dozen beer with a little left over for popcorn.
By the way, Reid is no more an elitist than the media representatives (and there have been several in the last few months) for the Conservative Party.
The rest of your post is paranoid spin usually only heard from the likes of David Koresh followers.
Reverend Blair said:
Geez, Rev, I didn't know.
David Koresh had an opinion on Canadiabn day care policy? And he supported Harper's view?
Now I understand why the Clinton administration murdered him......and all those kids.
I know things aren't going well in south-western Ontario, but you should try to maintain a grip on reality.
Colpy said:
I find that anyone who uses the term "elitist" has no point to make. Usually, it's used by someone who doesn't believe that smarter kids should get extra education.
I don't know what you're trying to say Colpy, because you are using pointless words. God knows what your point is. I think the word "elitist" should be banned.
TenPenny said:
I see your point, TP.
I use "elitist" when I mean intellectual elitist.
You know, people who think they have been blessed with sole knowledge of truth, and it is their destiny to rule und instruct the Great Unwashed Masses.
I see how this bothers you.
I'll try and do better.
I think that Harper's plan will succeed only in encouraging women to have more children in order to make more money. He won't be allowing parents to send their children to daycare(in the current system it's too expensive for his yearly $1,200 to help much), and so lower income parents will suffer since they can't afford to be stay-at-homes and they still can't afford day care. This money will probably go to the cheapest babysitter which doesn't necessarily offer the best care. On the other hand, by supporting the day care system, Paul Martin is helping families where both parents have to work (which is often the case with the cost of living as high as it currently is). I support Martin, since his plan seems to consider the wellness of lower income families and tries to provide the best care for all children since a publicly regulated system is safer than taking your chances with the local babysitter.