Day Care Issue

[Reverend Blair]

A national child care plan is, by definition, a federal issue, Jay.

Speaking of federal interference in provincial roles, why is Harper taking away provincial rights by appointing a federal prosecutor? Why does he have child care program if it isn't a federal matter? Why is he talking about energy since that is a provincial issue? Same with healthcare.

I don't think you should vote for Harper, Jay...he's obviously going to trample all over your provincial rights.

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Day Care Issue

A national child care plan is, by definition, a federal issue, Jay.

Speaking of federal interference in provincial roles, why is Harper taking away provincial rights by appointing a federal prosecutor? Why does he have child care program if it isn't a federal matter? Why is he talking about energy since that is a provincial issue? Same with healthcare.

I don't think you should vote for Harper, Jay...he's obviously going to trample all over your provincial rights.

No. No. He's confused about what race he's running in - federal or provincial "woudl someone PLEASE make up my mind - hhrrumph".

 

[Jay]

A national daycare program by definition shouldn't exist, or even cross the federal governments mind. It is just as the leader of the Bloc said in the last election: "why would we have the federal government collect money from Quebec tax payers so they can give it to Quebec for a daycare plan they already have?" Both he and Harper seemed to agree this is a provincial issue, so leave it alone. This is the argument I support.


And yes, I agree with you whole heartily, apathy runs a muck in this nation, and who would have thunk it with the public school system and all.

But that's OK, if Canadians don't want to understand simple things like jurisdiction, and their country falls apart because of it; they get what they paid for.

 

[Reverend Blair]

Both he and Harper seemed to agree this is a provincial issue, so leave it alone. This is the argument I support.

Harper obviously doesn't agree though. If he did, he would have argued against there being a national child care plan instead of coming out with his own, completely inadequate, version of a national child care plan.

Harper has shown himself to be more than willing to trample on provincial jurisdictions in every area of his policy. There is no way that you should be supporting somebody that ideologically different from yourself, Jay. I suggest you join that group of people who eat their ballots instead of voting.

 

[Jay]

I appreciate what your saying, but the conservative party is the best avenue we have at the moment for setting things right, so I place my vote there.

Harper isn't saying we need a national daycare program like the Liberals are...as far as I can see, he is avoiding the whole thing by offering a subsidy (or whatever)on child care rather than a new system. I can live with that.

 

[Numure]

Québec's daycare system is great. And the one for the RoC should be similar, but thats up to you guys.

Daycare costs 7$ a day for parents per child, no more.

 

[Numure]

The first thing I think of when the government talks about childcare is ....

Are they gonna screw it up just like they do (did) with healthcare. Is childcare just gonna become another political football of sorts?

This is exactly what is going to happen.

The Federal government has no business being in education period. The Liberals can't read, so they don't seem to understand this. Therefore if Harper is going to put money back into the pockets of Canadians, that is a far better approach rather then stepping outside of jurisdiction and creating a political fight over something that has nothing to do with Martin and his band of illiterate thieves.

It is a ploy to fool Canadians.

The feds tried to put string on their part of financing our daycare system, since they are building one for the RoC. But Jean Charest wasnt so ready to put himself on fire and jump off a bridge just yet(Because he already shot both his feet and arms), so he stood his ground.

 

[Said1]

Québec's daycare system is great. And the one for the RoC should be similar, but thats up to you guys.

Daycare costs 7$ a day for parents per child, no more.

How does your dental subsidy work? I've heard it's much cheaper, and just happen to be in dire need of a dentist!

 

[MMMike]

A national daycare program by definition shouldn't exist, or even cross the federal governments mind. It is just as the leader of the Bloc said in the last election: "why would we have the federal government collect money from Quebec tax payers so they can give it to Quebec for a daycare plan they already have?" Both he and Harper seemed to agree this is a provincial issue, so leave it alone. This is the argument I support.

Right on! Taking this even further: "why should we have the federal government collect money from the provinces' taxpayers, so they can give whatever is left after it filters through their grubby, sticky hands back to the provinces, to set up state run 'education' centres for their kids.

This is Soviet-style thinking: that state-run facilities know better how to raise and educate kids than their parents themselves. This is pure empire-building - this government has to expand to permeate every aspect of people's lives. They badly need to be put out of their misery. :twisted:

 

[Jay]

I have come to learn that some people here don't have a problem with the Soviet mentality, so bringing up that point isn't effective.

 

[Reverend Blair]

Right on! Taking this even further: "why should we have the federal government collect money from the provinces' taxpayers, so they can give whatever is left after it filters through their grubby, sticky hands back to the provinces, to set up state run 'education' centres for their kids.

So I guess MMMikey isn't voting for Harper either. Good for you MMMikey. Take a stand against Harper wanting to tax you and intrude into provincial affairs. On election day, just write NONE OF THE ABOVE across your ballot.

 

[Jay]

Why would we do that? That isn't how change is going to occur.

 

[Reverend Blair]

But you keep saying that you don't agree with interference in provincial matters and Harper has demonstrated that he will interfire in the provinces with glee. It's the end answer of every policy he's introduced. You can't possibly vote for somebody you are so opposed to, can you?

 

[Jay]

But I want to exist in the democratic process.....who am I supposed to vote for, the NDP? :lol:

 

[Reverend Blair]

Find somebody who represents your views. Harper, by his policies, doesn't do that. You could try the Libertarians. Hell, you might even be able to run for them.

 

[Jay]

I know about these people, but they aren't going to get elected.

 

[MMMike]

So I guess MMMikey isn't voting for Harper either. Good for you MMMikey. Take a stand against Harper wanting to tax you and intrude into provincial affairs. On election day, just write NONE OF THE ABOVE across your ballot.

He is the best out of all of them (short of Duceppe) for respecting provincial juristiction. But most people don't understand who is responsible for what, and when you have Layton & Martin (Dumb and Dumber, not necessarily in that order :wink: ) promising these vast new 'federal' programs, it is difficult to say "I'll cut taxes to give the provinces room for additional taxation to support whatever program they deem appropriate", which is what they should be saying.

 

[Reverend Blair]

I know about these people, but they aren't going to get elected.

Especially if nobody votes for them. Harper isn't going to get elected either though, so your argument is redundant.

 

[Jay]

Not really....he will atleast sit in opposition.

 

[Reverend Blair]

Not if he keeps making policy announcements that Canadians don't like.