Dad beats daughter’s alleged molester to death

MapleDog

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Can I run a completely ficticious situation by you here. I don't profess to know what happened but what 'could' have happened.

Let's say that the man and the child when innocently walking from one end of the barn to the other on the outside, while everyone else was inside. The child sees a snake, or something, on the ground, near the edge of the barn, and lets out a loud scream. Or, maybe the guy is a smart a$$ and picks up a snake and brings it towards the girl to scare her, and she lets out "Get away from me!!"

Dad ripes out of the barn and around the corner to see the man bent over laughing and the girl is obscureded vision because she is on the opposite side of the man. Dad grabs the guy and maybe, just maybe, he asks the daughter, "Did he Molest you!" She screams, "Yes" (How many 4 year olds do you know that know the meaning of the word molest?) Bam Bam - Bad Man Gone.

If he asked "Did he hurt you" the answer would likely be the same. "Yes" (scareing a child would likely feel hurtful to a child. Bam Bam - Bad Man Gone.

Just something to think about.
But if the dad ask what happen,no bam bam no bad man gone.
 

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Can I run a completely ficticious situation by you here. I don't profess to know what happened but what 'could' have happened.

Let's say that the man and the child when innocently walking from one end of the barn to the other on the outside, while everyone else was inside. The child sees a snake, or something, on the ground, near the edge of the barn, and lets out a loud scream. Or, maybe the guy is a smart a$$ and picks up a snake and brings it towards the girl to scare her, and she lets out "Get away from me!!"

Dad ripes out of the barn and around the corner to see the man bent over laughing and the girl is obscureded vision because she is on the opposite side of the man. Dad grabs the guy and maybe, just maybe, he asks the daughter, "Did he Molest you!" She screams, "Yes" (How many 4 year olds do you know that know the meaning of the word molest?) Bam Bam - Bad Man Gone.

If he asked "Did he hurt you" the answer would likely be the same. "Yes" (scareing a child would likely feel hurtful to a child. Bam Bam - Bad Man Gone.

Just something to think about.

That's what good lawyers do - present a story about what COULD have happened that is plausible enough that the judge or jury will buy it! :smile:

Can I run a completely ficticious situation by you here. I don't profess to know what happened but what 'could' have happened.

Let's say that the man and the child when innocently walking from one end of the barn to the other on the outside, while everyone else was inside. The child sees a snake, or something, on the ground, near the edge of the barn, and lets out a loud scream. Or, maybe the guy is a smart a$$ and picks up a snake and brings it towards the girl to scare her, and she lets out "Get away from me!!"

Dad ripes out of the barn and around the corner to see the man bent over laughing and the girl is obscureded vision because she is on the opposite side of the man. Dad grabs the guy and maybe, just maybe, he asks the daughter, "Did he Molest you!" She screams, "Yes" (How many 4 year olds do you know that know the meaning of the word molest?) Bam Bam - Bad Man Gone.

If he asked "Did he hurt you" the answer would likely be the same. "Yes" (scareing a child would likely feel hurtful to a child. Bam Bam - Bad Man Gone.

Just something to think about.

That's what good lawyers do - present a story about what COULD have happened that is plausible enough that the judge or jury will buy it! :smile:
 

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That's what good lawyers do - present a story about what COULD have happened that is plausible enough that the judge or jury will buy it! :smile:

Exactly. that's what their job is - to question the 'truth' as presented by the prosecution, if there's a rock solid case, the jury will still find the person guilty; if the 'truth' as presented by the prosecution doesn't hold up to scrutiny, they shouldn't be found guilty.
 

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Maybe we need to watch more Law & Order, ;)

LOL.

In Florida the Travis Martin case the prosecutor bypassed the Grand Jury directly to presenting evidence to the judge - Now US law is different than Canada's so I do not know what differing States have.
 

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Defence of third person.

Not vigilantism.

Good to know.

Canadian Law also allows a person to use as much force, only as much force as necessary to protect either themselves or others from immediate or impending physical harm. i

You can protect another using force but once the violence has stopped and that person is no longer a threat and the danger ceases you cannot keep on beating the crap out of them- or kill them.

Judged by 12 or carried by 6.
 

CDNBear

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Canadian Law also allows a person to use as much force, only as much force as necessary to protect either themselves or others from immediate or impending physical harm. i

You can protect another using force but once the violence has stopped and that person is no longer a threat and the danger ceases you cannot keep on beating the crap out of them- or kill them.

Judged by 12 or carried by 6.
I know that. I've used the defence here.

I was pointing something out for EAO.
 

CDNBear

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And a few dozen more times after that? Lol.
Ya. Then when he keeps parroting the same nonsense, despite having it thoroughly proven false. I just resort to mocking or pointing out his personal deficiencies.

But I always start out with good intentions.
 

SLM

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Ya. Then when he keeps parroting the same nonsense, despite having it thoroughly proven false. I just resort to mocking or pointing out his personal deficiencies.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, you've more patience than I. Lol.

But I always start out with good intentions.

I know you do.

If any of them ever figure that out though, well aside from watching all the pigs flying around, you'll have nothing to do. So we'll just keep that between us, lol.
 

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The man's pants and underwear were down, his genitals exposed.


Molester Beaten to Death by Texas Dad Identified, Disturbing New Details Released


The man who was beaten to death by a Texas dad for allegedly molesting his 5-year-old daughter has been identified by authorities.

Previous news reports had identified the girl as a 4-year-old, but her age was corrected by Lavaca County authorities in a press release Friday, obtained by the Victoria Advocate.

Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon said that the 23-year-old father killed Jesus Mora Flores, 47, from Gonzales, Texas. The sheriff said Flores was not in the U.S. illegally and was in possession of a green card also known as a permanent resident card. Investigators have been working with Mexican Consulate officials to locate his family, the news release revealed.

Harmon previously indicated that it is unlikely that the father, who has not been identified to protect his daughter, will face any criminal charges. It seems even less likely in light of some new details that have been released.

The June 9 killing reportedly occurred in Mt. Olive near a barn where some horses were being kept. The adults were shoeing a horse while the little girl and her brother went to feed chickens, KPRC in Houston reports.

The two kids’ grandfather later said the boy returned and told him that his sister had been taken away by a man (Flores) who apparently dragged her behind some bushes on the property. The Texas dad went out looking for her, calling her name. KPRC reportedly spoke with the family.

Soon after, he heard the sound of his little girl’s screams and rushed to find her. When he did, he says Flores was molesting his daughter. The dad yanked him off of her and repeatedly struck him in the head and neck with his fists, ultimately killing him. Flores, an acquaintance of the father, had been hired to help tend to some of the family’s horses.

But it is now clear that the father walked into a even more horrifying scene than previously known.

“When emergency medical personnel arrived, Jesus Mora Flores‘ pants and underwear were down and the man’s genitals were exposed,” Harmon was quoted saying in the press release, as reported by the Victoria Advocate.

There has been no evidence that has conflicted with the father’s account of the events, Harmon said. The dad was reportedly very remorseful and told investigators he did not intend to kill Flores. Further, the sheriff said the father and his family have cooperated with authorities.

“Despite all the other factors involved, this is still a homicide investigation,” Harmon explained.

Now the Texas dad’s fate is in the hands of a grand jury who will hear his case and decide whether he will face any charges.

“Sheriff Harmon made the right decision in not arresting the father at the time of the incident,” Lavaca County District Attorney Heather McMinn said.

Harmon said in his eight years as sheriff, he has only investigated six homicides. The autopsy on Flores won’t be done for several weeks, the Advocate reports.

“This case has been very traumatizing on the child, her father and his entire family,” he added.


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