COVID-19 'Pandemic'
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So you'll be wanting to wait another nine or ten years for it then considering that'd be about the normal length of time.
No,
I'll still get it, I'll likely have to considering my job.
But I also have doubts about it and hope the doubts are just nothing to worry over.
Sit! Fauci, Sit! Latest pet names reflection of living during pandemic times
Remember when everyone named their dogs Fido, King, and Lucky?
I'm not sure were it is in Canada that you reside, but here in Calgary pubs etc. are open, movie theatres are still open I believe, and our neighbourhood pool is open, all with adequate protocols in place of course, so yes I can. I have stated in the past that I do not agree with anyone determining what is essential and what is not.
1.Main points
- In August 2020, there were 34,750 deaths registered in England, 2,060 deaths fewer than the five-year average (2015 to 2019) for August; in Wales, there were 2,379 deaths registered, 116 deaths fewer the five-year average for August.
- The leading cause of death in August 2020 was dementia and Alzheimer’s disease in England (accounting for 10.9% of all deaths) and ischaemic heart disease in Wales (11.0% of all deaths); both leading causes of death were the same in July 2020.
- The coronavirus (COVID-19) did not feature in the top ten leading causes of death in August 2020, in England or Wales. In England, COVID-19 was the 24th most common cause of death and in Wales it was the 19th most common cause of death, for deaths registered in August 2020.
Monthly mortality analysis, England and Wales - Office for National Statistics
Provisional death registration data for England and Wales, broken down by sex, age and country. Includes deaths due to COVID-19 and leading causes of death.
www.ons.gov.uk
Have you done time in one? Sure minimum security is much less stringent, but they do house prisoners who have graduated down to that status from medium or max, which I'm sure was no walk on the beach. And at the end of the day, it's still prison right?
I am sure the Education Secretary is a qualified critic .'Britain got vaccine first because we are better than you all': Gavin Williamson taunts America and Europe after UK beats world in race for COVID jab - as US's top doctor Anthony Fauci accuses British health regulators of rushing drug into use
The Education Secretary made the tub-thumping claim as the UK found itself at the centre of a major international row over the speed at which it approved a treatment to be launched within days. Both the EU and the United States lashed out after the UK's regulator approved the Pfizer BioNTech jab, which will begin roll-out to millions of vulnerable people next week in a world first. They raised safety questions over the speed at which the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) acted to approve the treatment. But the excitable minister fired an astonishing broadside back at them in a radio interview this morning. Appearing on LBC radio, Mr Williamson (centre) said: 'Well I just reckon we've got the very best people in this country and we've obviously got the best medical regulator, much better than the French have, much better than the Belgians have, much better than the Americans have. 'That doesn't surprise me at all because we're a much better country than every single one of them.' He was backed by deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam, who suggested critics were jealous of the speed at which the UK had moved. Critics included the US Covid supremo Anthony Fauci (left), who warned: 'If you go quickly and you do it superficially, people are not going to want to get vaccinated.'
You won't get sense out of Blackie... all he'll post is stuff that suits his point of view and not reality or facts.
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5 Burning Questions About the New Covid Vaccine Kit Knightly REUTERS/Dado
Ruvic/Illustration/File Photo The United Kingdom government has today announced its approval of the first Covid19 vaccine for general use. 800,000 doses are slated to be released for general use by the end of the week, and has already signed a contract for 40 million more doses (to go along with over 300 million doses of as-yet-unreleased vaccines from other companies). With the newest phase in the Covid19 roll-out set to begin, it’s time we addressed the five biggest questions about this vaccine, its effectiveness, its safety and whether or not we’ll be forced to use it.
1. DOES IT WORK? Clearly, the company claims it does, and the UK government seems to believe them. The Guardian, in their coverage of the vaccine, claim it has a 95% efficacy rating, but does not provide a source for this or any kind of data at all. Fortunately, better journalists and researchers are writing for the British Medical Journal, including this piece from Peter Doshi just last week. To explain where this “95% effective” claim actually comes from: The Pfizer vaccine trial included nearly 44,000 people. Half getting their vaccine, half getting a placebo. In total, from the 44,000 people, 170 were later recorded as having become ‘infected with Covid19’. 162 of them were in the placebo group, 8 of them in the vaccine group. The vaccine is therefore credited with preventing 154 cases of Covid19…or 95%. You don’t need to be a medical researcher or virologist to see how potentially flawed this reasoning is. The entire trial of 44,000 people is deemed a success based on the potentially multi-variant outcome from less than 4% of those involved. The details of the trial are hard to come by, so we have yet to find out how these 170 people were even diagnosed with “Covid19”. Was it a clinical diagnosis based on symptoms? Or PCR test? Either method would raise serious questions about accuracy. In short, the answer to “Does it work?” is “we have no idea.”
2. IS IT SAFE? Potentially more important than the question of efficacy is the question of safety. No one, not even the vaccines most ardent defenders, is denying that this vaccine process has been rushed – vaccines typically take years and years to produce, whereas this one has been hurried on to the market in less than nine months. Some of them have skipped important stages in testing altogether. Even supposing the short term trials have not shown any side effects, there has simply been no time to do long-term outcome studies. The potential for complications, months or years down the line, certainly exists. Further, the vaccine is based on new technology – an mRNA vaccine, which injects viral genetic material to generate an immune response. The technology has been in development for years, but this would be the first mRNA vaccine actually put to use. So, again, the short answer to “is it safe?” is “we don’t know”. However, the vaccine pushers and manufacturers clearly have doubts about its safety, since they have gone out of their way guarantee they have total legal indemnity from prosecution or civil suits should something go wrong. Not a confidence booster that. Ask yourself: if Ford or BMW were releasing a new type of car based on “cutting edge technology”, but before you buy one you have to sign a waiver saying you can’t sue the car manufacturers in the event you explode in a fiery ball of death…would you drive that car?
3. WHAT’S IN IT? This is a simple one. We don’t know, they won’t say. At least not in anything but the vaguest terms.
4. WHO WILL GET IT? First on the docket are the elderly and NHS workers. We don’t know who will be excluded. Immunocompromised people were excluded from the efficacy study, so presumably, they’ll also be excluded from taking the vaccine. If not, that’s a potential disaster waiting to happen (although they have legal protection, so I guess that doesn’t matter). The British military are already busily setting up “mass vaccination centres”. So eventually, of course, almost everyone will be expected to get injected if they want to partake of society in any way at all. Which leads us onto question five…
5. WILL IT BECOME MANDATORY? The question of “mandatory vaccines” has been buzzing around since the earliest stages of the pandemic narrative. The final result will obviously vary country-to-country, but it’s certainly a possibility here in the UK. A few months ago a group of scholars submitted written evidence to the UK Parliament that mandatory vaccinations would be defensible on a human rights basis, and that there was already legal precedent for this action in UK legislation (specifically, treating mental health patients who may be a danger to themselves). In the end, and this is purely my speculation, I doubt the vaccine will ever be literally legally mandatory. Parliament will reject the “expert advice” suggesting Covid19 vaccines be forced on people. This will accomplish two goals at once: a) It will give the government a veneer of “libertarianism”, a thin facade to cover it’s tyrannical nature. And b) It will allow a potential “third wave” of Covid19 to be blamed on “vaccine hesitancy”. Though it will probably never be literally mandatory, they will certainly make it much easier to function should you get the vaccine. There’s been much talk of “immunity passports”, meaning digital documents showing your vaccination status which make you exempt from lockdown and social distancing rules. In the future it’s not hard to see these documents (either physical or digital) being vital to the ability work, socialise, travel, get loans, apply for state benefits or even receive medical treatment. So, even if not forced to partake of the vaccine, you will likely be bribed, blackmailed or coerced into doing so eventually.
* To sum up – we don’t know exactly what’s in the vaccine, it might not work, it may not be safe, and we’re probably all going to end up being forced to use it.
9 minutes ago
T Yggdrasil5 Burning Questions About the New Covid Vaccine Kit Knightly REUTERS/Dado
Ruvic/Illustration/File Photo The United Kingdom government has today announced its approval of the first Covid19 vaccine for general use. 800,000 doses are slated to be released for general use by the end of the week, and has already signed a contract for 40 million more doses (to go along with over 300 million doses of as-yet-unreleased vaccines from other companies). With the newest phase in the Covid19 roll-out set to begin, it’s time we addressed the five biggest questions about this vaccine, its effectiveness, its safety and whether or not we’ll be forced to use it.
1. DOES IT WORK? Clearly, the company claims it does, and the UK government seems to believe them. The Guardian, in their coverage of the vaccine, claim it has a 95% efficacy rating, but does not provide a source for this or any kind of data at all. Fortunately, better journalists and researchers are writing for the British Medical Journal, including this piece from Peter Doshi just last week. To explain where this “95% effective” claim actually comes from: The Pfizer vaccine trial included nearly 44,000 people. Half getting their vaccine, half getting a placebo. In total, from the 44,000 people, 170 were later recorded as having become ‘infected with Covid19’. 162 of them were in the placebo group, 8 of them in the vaccine group. The vaccine is therefore credited with preventing 154 cases of Covid19…or 95%. You don’t need to be a medical researcher or virologist to see how potentially flawed this reasoning is. The entire trial of 44,000 people is deemed a success based on the potentially multi-variant outcome from less than 4% of those involved. The details of the trial are hard to come by, so we have yet to find out how these 170 people were even diagnosed with “Covid19”. Was it a clinical diagnosis based on symptoms? Or PCR test? Either method would raise serious questions about accuracy. In short, the answer to “Does it work?” is “we have no idea.”
2. IS IT SAFE? Potentially more important than the question of efficacy is the question of safety. No one, not even the vaccines most ardent defenders, is denying that this vaccine process has been rushed – vaccines typically take years and years to produce, whereas this one has been hurried on to the market in less than nine months. Some of them have skipped important stages in testing altogether. Even supposing the short term trials have not shown any side effects, there has simply been no time to do long-term outcome studies. The potential for complications, months or years down the line, certainly exists. Further, the vaccine is based on new technology – an mRNA vaccine, which injects viral genetic material to generate an immune response. The technology has been in development for years, but this would be the first mRNA vaccine actually put to use. So, again, the short answer to “is it safe?” is “we don’t know”. However, the vaccine pushers and manufacturers clearly have doubts about its safety, since they have gone out of their way guarantee they have total legal indemnity from prosecution or civil suits should something go wrong. Not a confidence booster that. Ask yourself: if Ford or BMW were releasing a new type of car based on “cutting edge technology”, but before you buy one you have to sign a waiver saying you can’t sue the car manufacturers in the event you explode in a fiery ball of death…would you drive that car?
3. WHAT’S IN IT? This is a simple one. We don’t know, they won’t say. At least not in anything but the vaguest terms.
4. WHO WILL GET IT? First on the docket are the elderly and NHS workers. We don’t know who will be excluded. Immunocompromised people were excluded from the efficacy study, so presumably, they’ll also be excluded from taking the vaccine. If not, that’s a potential disaster waiting to happen (although they have legal protection, so I guess that doesn’t matter). The British military are already busily setting up “mass vaccination centres”. So eventually, of course, almost everyone will be expected to get injected if they want to partake of society in any way at all. Which leads us onto question five…
5. WILL IT BECOME MANDATORY? The question of “mandatory vaccines” has been buzzing around since the earliest stages of the pandemic narrative. The final result will obviously vary country-to-country, but it’s certainly a possibility here in the UK. A few months ago a group of scholars submitted written evidence to the UK Parliament that mandatory vaccinations would be defensible on a human rights basis, and that there was already legal precedent for this action in UK legislation (specifically, treating mental health patients who may be a danger to themselves). In the end, and this is purely my speculation, I doubt the vaccine will ever be literally legally mandatory. Parliament will reject the “expert advice” suggesting Covid19 vaccines be forced on people. This will accomplish two goals at once: a) It will give the government a veneer of “libertarianism”, a thin facade to cover it’s tyrannical nature. And b) It will allow a potential “third wave” of Covid19 to be blamed on “vaccine hesitancy”. Though it will probably never be literally mandatory, they will certainly make it much easier to function should you get the vaccine. There’s been much talk of “immunity passports”, meaning digital documents showing your vaccination status which make you exempt from lockdown and social distancing rules. In the future it’s not hard to see these documents (either physical or digital) being vital to the ability work, socialise, travel, get loans, apply for state benefits or even receive medical treatment. So, even if not forced to partake of the vaccine, you will likely be bribed, blackmailed or coerced into doing so eventually.
* To sum up – we don’t know exactly what’s in the vaccine, it might not work, it may not be safe, and we’re probably all going to end up being forced to use it.
Chances are it'll be even lower than 24th now because the number of deaths is decreasing.
Maybe not financially as much, but through regulation cutting and streamlining they sure as heck did
I live in Sask. but our neighbors in Man. are locked right down as I described, a lot of Alta. residents I talk to would like to see the same restrictions to flatline their province
Sweet. More to spend on weapons instead of keeping useless carcasses alive.
Is a prison you can walk away from really a prison. I have I been in? Hell no, my wife worked for Corrections Canada in the thick of shit. So perspective wise, I'd say I know more than you.
After months of ridiculing Trump CNN now reporting that they are rounding the curve? Is this to support team Biden?