COVID-19 'Pandemic'

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pgs said:
It isn’t even cold out on my deck .
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11C, the lake is still froze and fishing season closes on Tuesday.

Hmmmmm. Sit in indoors and waste the day posting on here or grab a six pack sit on the bright white ice, get sunburn and a bucket of perch?
 
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Twin_Moose said:
If Trump is bad for wanting the country moving by Easter, what does that make China that are back up to 95% company's reopening for business already

'They are completely intertwined': Tentative signs of recovery in China help some Canadian companies weather COVID-19 storm
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I can quite easily see Trump's point, depending on how hard he intends on pushing it. I'm inclined to think the end of April might be a better plan, AFTER the existing emergencies can be dealt with.
 
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Anyone want to increase China's death toll even further to support their scaremongering agenda?

Maybe China's death toll is a whopping 5000 times higher than the official figure.

Even if that was the case - which is not very likely - it would put China's death toll at 16.4 million. In other words, 1.2% of the population.
 
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Blackleaf said:
Okay, then.

If we did that it'd be 3.2 million deaths - out of a population of 1.428 billion.

So around 0.22% of the population.
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Let's try to steer clear of the hyperbole, especially very, very, very, very unlikely hyperbole. I think it might be safe to assume worst case scenario, 2% of the world population will contract the disease and 1% of that figure will succumb to it. Those figures will likely be (in my opinion) at the extreme top end of it. People are already scared enough and in too many cases panicking!
 
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Ocean Breeze said:
Confirmed U.S. coronavirus-related deaths double in two days, hitting 2,000
It took about a month from the first confirmed death for the United States to record 1,000. That toll has risen rapidly as officials have been warning the worst is yet to come.


source: WAPO
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A country with no universal health care facing a universal health crisis.

I feel badly for everyone involved. Maybe this will drive them to understand that it is in everybody's interest that everybody be provided basic healthcare.

It's not a frill
 
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JLM said:
Let's try to steer clear of the hyperbole, especially very, very, very, very unlikely hyperbole. I think it might be safe to assume worst case scenario, 2% of the world population will contract the disease and 1% of that figure will succumb to it. Those figures will likely be (in my opinion) at the extreme top end of it. People are already scared enough and in too many cases panicking!
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Except its currently s 4.5% death rate and it's likely at some point everyone will get it or be exposed to it. Just a matter of time and lets hope the vaccine is here sooner than later.
 
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JLM said:
Let's try to steer clear of the hyperbole, especially very, very, very, very unlikely hyperbole. I think it might be safe to assume worst case scenario, 2% of the world population will contract the disease and 1% of that figure will succumb to it. Those figures will likely be (in my opinion) at the extreme top end of it. People are already scared enough and in too many cases panicking!
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The only people panicking are the gullible types who believe all the mainstream media hype and scaremongering.

It makes me wonder why those same people never go about their lives panicking about flu, which claims over 600,000 lives every year.

Yet they are panicking over an illness which has claimed just 31,000 lives in a quarter of a year and acting as though it's a major apocalyptic tragedy the likes of which we haven't seen for centuries.

It's stupid.
 
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Blackleaf said:
The only people panicking are the gullible types who believe all the mainstream media hype and scaremongering.

It makes me wonder why those same people never go about their lives panicking about flu, which claims over 600,000 lives every year.

Yet they are panicking over an illness which has claimed just 31,000 lives in a quarter of a year and acting as though it's a major apocalyptic tragedy the likes of which we haven't seen for centuries.

It's stupid.
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Far beyond that...………………….f**king ludicrous! :)
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
That sounds significant, but I still wonder at the scope of the problem. The only figure you quoted was 1%, well within tolerances, and for that matter a model of efficiency.
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Once again, that 1% ONLY represents those who went to the ED for dental non-emergencies. It doesn't even begin to account for all the other non-emergency visits.
Tecumsehsbones said:
Even the report quickly jumped to a non-representative anecdote after stating a reassuringly low number, usually a sure sign of scaremongering.
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30% is a reassuringly low number? In the fiscal year 2008-2009 the Ontario govt spent $960 million for ED visits. 30% of that was spent on non-emergency visits and low acuity cases that could easily be handled elsewhere.

Tecumsehsbones said:
If it was my place to recommend, I think probably the best answer is an income-scaled payment, what we call a "co-pay" down hereabouts in the Republic of Insurance Companies.

Worth a try anyhow.
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But then it wouldn't be truly universal health care. They have tried things in Ontario. One idea that was floated was a health care credit. Basically everyone started with a base credit amount. Every time you used the health care system they knocked off some of your credit. If you didn't use up all your credits in a year, the govt would send you the difference in an actual refundable tax credit. The idea was shot down in flames because some POLS thought it would discourage people from seeing a doctor or going to the emergency when they actually needed to, if they knew they'd get more money at the end of the year. Co-pay won't fly, at least not in Ontario. We're already being gooned for a health care premium at source on top of the tax dollars already earmarked for health care.
 
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